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guest222 | hey does somebody know how to get rid of the lock code ? I have dev mode enabled if that helps for not bothering care@jolla | 07:17 |
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Sail0r | ? | 07:18 |
Sail0r | what do you mean with "get rid" deactivate it with knowing the code? | 07:18 |
kurosch | well I played around with the code once than thought I deactivated it, but as it seems forgot to clear it away completely. so now I want to reset the phone but do not know the lock code anymore. | 07:20 |
Sail0r | I think a forgotten lock code can only be fixed by jolla care | 07:21 |
Sail0r | The answer is in the User Guide: | 07:22 |
Sail0r | "If you exceed the number of tries for the Unlock code, as a security measure, your data becomes inaccessible. You will need to contact Care to have your device reset." | 07:22 |
kurosch | i have no limit for the tries | 07:22 |
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Sail0r | oO | 07:22 |
kurosch | well you can set the limit in settings and have unlimited | 07:23 |
Sail0r | but i think the result is the same | 07:23 |
Sail0r | did you try to ssh to the device? | 07:24 |
Sail0r | if wlan is switched on? | 07:25 |
kurosch | yes I can connect to the device or just use fingerterm? | 07:25 |
Sail0r | you have the device in an unlocked state? | 07:26 |
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kurosch | root is working fine, same as ssh etc. | 07:27 |
kurosch | yes it is a screwed up situation rather than clearing the code I just deactivated the asking and set it to unlimited. | 07:28 |
Sail0r | ah now your situation becomes clearer to me ;) | 07:30 |
kurosch | Sail0r do not worry I will contact care its not like i am in a hurry to reset it. I was just wondering if there was an easy way to solve this. | 07:32 |
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kurosch | but thanks anyway :) | 07:33 |
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Klarre | hi | 11:01 |
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Klarre | My Google account keeps logging out every few days or so. Anyone experiencing the same issue? | 11:02 |
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Nicd- | Klarre: it's a known bug and there are fixes coming for it | 11:03 |
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Klarre | Ok great! Thanks! | 11:03 |
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Nichope | To all the foreigners in Barcelona: Today there will be 2 demonstrations against the actions taken by the government in the field of education. One of them will be "normal", but the other one is organised by some more extremist groups. The second one will take place at Plaça Espanya at 19:00, and according to what I've heard and read, it has chances of ending violently. So if you're staying at Barcelona after the congress, just keep in mind that there | 11:21 |
zutto | how is this related to jolla? | 11:22 |
kimmoli | we have lots of sailors in braca | 11:22 |
tbr | the part where you get mauled by the police thinking that you are a violent protester | 11:22 |
kimmoli | or they... | 11:22 |
Nichope | yeah | 11:22 |
Nicd- | "keep in mind that there" | 11:22 |
Nicd- | it was cut | 11:22 |
Nichope | well, i simply didn't have a better channel to prevent them... | 11:23 |
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Nichope | ok, I paste the rest | 11:23 |
Nichope | If you're staying at Barcelona after the congress, just keep in mind that there can be some problems near to Plaça Espanya by 7p.m. ( cybette jukkaeklund lbt Sage_ Stskeeps w00t iekku , if anyone of you sees it, just tell it to the other sailors, or anyone to whom it can be useful) | 11:24 |
javispedro | That's a bit of scaremongering | 11:24 |
javispedro | and I work at a university. | 11:24 |
lbt | Nichope: thanks - will pass that on :) | 11:25 |
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iekku | Nichope, thanks, i will sent info to sailors in mwc | 11:25 |
Nichope | it's not like they will hurt anyone else than themselves or the police easily but, you know, it's better just to be prevented | 11:25 |
GentSir | Isn't MWC in Barcelona right now? | 11:25 |
Nichope | ok :) | 11:25 |
javispedro | you make it sound like if anyone's going to actually notice it. | 11:26 |
Nichope | Yes, that's why I am saying it, GentSir | 11:26 |
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iekku | Nichope, luckily i'm not there, i might attend by myself :P | 11:32 |
iekku | Nichope, thanks for warning, messages sent via some, irc, and sms to sailors | 11:32 |
* javispedro is not happy about this | 11:33 | |
iekku | violent demonstration might turn really ugly | 11:34 |
Jope | yeps.. | 11:34 |
javispedro | the problem is that he's already assuming that a) there will be a demonstration b) it will be violent | 11:34 |
suy | is not that common that a demonstration ends up violently | 11:34 |
suy | (in barcelona) | 11:34 |
iekku | it depends on the organizor | 11:34 |
javispedro | when actually what happens most often is a total lack of mobilitization | 11:34 |
suy | but, well, is just a heads up, I suppose | 11:35 |
GentSir | I didn't think Spain was that violatile | 11:35 |
javispedro | ie no one attends | 11:35 |
javispedro | and it doesn't help to encourage people to participate in demonstrations to already drop "they will be violent" before the event | 11:35 |
iekku | i didn't participate one during our intependence day because of the organizor, there was possibility demonstration might go violent, and according to finnish standards it went | 11:36 |
GentSir | The Finns protest? | 11:36 |
iekku | rarely :P | 11:36 |
* javispedro just believes that there's a `conspiracy' to make population more docile by preemptively warning them about 'violent demonstrations' even before they happen | 11:36 | |
GentSir | I thought it was all happy and peaceful there | 11:37 |
Nicd- | javispedro: jolla people probably aren't the ones going to participate in barcelonian protests anyway | 11:37 |
iekku | true | 11:37 |
GentSir | javispedro: That warning was targeted at foreigners who have no stake in those protests. Not people who should or want to show up. | 11:37 |
iekku | and as a punk, and organizor and participant to demonstrations i respect a lot about that warning | 11:37 |
javispedro | GentSir, Nicd-, that is clear, but basically, if anyone leaves MWC because of 'that', local media will be having a field day | 11:38 |
flux | javispedro, yet, if said demonstration would turn out to be violent but it was not warned about for that reason, well, too bad if you happened to become a casualty of demonstration? | 11:39 |
iekku | javispedro, ? | 11:39 |
flux | (though a violent demonstration might be self-fullfilling prophecy anyway; folks looking for violence would likely take that as an advertisement..) | 11:40 |
iekku | as a foreigner i wouldn't like to be in the middle of any demonstration by accident | 11:40 |
iekku | not even as a native citizen | 11:40 |
iekku | i prefer to be acknoledged and make my choice by myself if i'm willing to attend or not | 11:41 |
javispedro | flux, probability is terribly low, and the most probable outcome is that _nothing_ happens | 11:41 |
javispedro | (ie no one attends, as said) | 11:41 |
javispedro | plaça espanya is like 500m from my home.. | 11:41 |
flux | I'm sure atleast a dozen folks will turn up! | 11:41 |
javispedro | and half of the reason is that one will want to come to a "violent demonstration" | 11:42 |
Nicd- | javispedro: but Nichope said that there will be another demonstration which is not violent | 11:42 |
Nicd- | so probably all the people of #jollamobile will go to that one | 11:42 |
Nicd- | no harm done | 11:42 |
javispedro | I am not actually trying to encourage you to go; it's just that such a strong warning makes me unhappy | 11:43 |
javispedro | for the reasons described. | 11:43 |
flux | I think a good starting point for setting up a non-violent demonstrations is to have it at day time :P | 11:43 |
javispedro | possibly feeling more than anything else. | 11:43 |
iekku | javispedro, it's different to know about it and go, than go by accident | 11:43 |
iekku | javispedro, i assume you agree with me | 11:43 |
javispedro | yeah | 11:44 |
GentSir | Isn't this why there was a "No political or religious debate" rule on the channel MOTD before? | 11:44 |
iekku | :D | 11:44 |
javispedro | oh, I forgot this isn't #maemo :) | 11:44 |
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iekku | i think all points are now taken and we can go on | 11:44 |
GentSir | I prefer to keep political debates to trash talking iPhones | 11:45 |
javispedro | there has always been some call for a mwc demonstration every year and yet nil happened | 11:45 |
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GentSir | kimmoli: How's development on that keyboard TOH going? | 11:46 |
javispedro | the one I remember was when someguy with a fake gun made of old-phone parts was trying to make some point about ecology =) | 11:46 |
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stephg | phoneglocks! | 11:48 |
* stephg sorry | 11:48 | |
TMavica | stephg | 11:48 |
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kimmoli | GentSir: wainting feedback from MWC | 11:51 |
GentSir | kimmoli: I hope the feedback is good! A well made hwkb is something I'd buy. | 12:00 |
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roboro | woohoo... my first app in Warehouse... TheSessionFinder... searches for traditional music and provides an SVG view of the sheet music for tunes... | 12:30 |
roboro | it uses pyotherside 1.0 which is all I could get to install on my Jolla | 12:31 |
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roboro | its probably buggy as hell... but would be nice if someone else managed to get it running | 12:32 |
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Klarre | Klarre: Are there currently any known issues about having the Jolla device as the main Google 2-step verification device? | 13:17 |
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tbr | Klarre: what is the particular aspect you're worried about? | 13:21 |
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Klarre | Im worride due to the bug causing the Google account getting disconnected now and then. | 13:23 |
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tbr | that is not in any way related to the 2-step verification process though | 13:27 |
tbr | you don't need an active google account on the device to either receive the text message or generate the TOTP token code | 13:28 |
Klarre | Aha, ok. | 13:29 |
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tbr | Klarre: there are at least two apps in the store that you can use to generate the 2-factor codes | 13:36 |
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Klarre | tbr: Oh, ok. Will check it out. | 13:43 |
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bentz | ciao | 14:19 |
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Sail0r | hm | 15:00 |
Sail0r | first green led blinking | 15:00 |
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Sail0r | now red led blinking | 15:00 |
Sail0r | i don't want to turn it off now :x | 15:00 |
tbr | that's a UI restart | 15:01 |
Sail0r | but it does not stop | 15:02 |
Sail0r | now green blinking once again | 15:03 |
Sail0r | now it's off :x | 15:03 |
Sail0r | ha back to live | 15:04 |
Sail0r | I see many networking problems | 15:04 |
Sail0r | in the log | 15:04 |
Sail0r | maybe it was stuck in "Problem with the connection" | 15:04 |
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PeperJohnny | Sail0r: hat the same phenomon with network problems :< | 15:10 |
Sail0r | :X | 15:10 |
chem|st | I had it without network problems - HA | 15:10 |
PeperJohnny | lucky one ;) | 15:11 |
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chem|st | PeperJohnny: what is lucky in I have no clue what caused it | 15:11 |
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PeperJohnny | Well I caused it by turning on mobile Internet while only having one bar of 2g :/ | 15:12 |
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chem|st | PeperJohnny: I opened a cover... | 15:13 |
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PeperJohnny | I guess we're monsters for trying that^^ | 15:13 |
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* chem|st is going to tap another cover MUUUUHAHAHAHA | 15:18 | |
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Nichope | iekku: thanks :) | 16:34 |
Nichope | Sorry for explaining it so late; I was at the other demonstration :P (it took place without any problem :) ) and after that having lunch. | 16:34 |
Nichope | javispedro , I didn't mean to give bad credit to demonstrations. In fact I would have liked to explain why that was not representative, but I considered that my message was already too long and unrelated :P | 16:35 |
Nichope | And I only sent the message after asking to some people involved in student syndicates and political parties, in order to verify if the possibility really existed (in fact, I kinda hate sounding dogmatic or alarmist) | 16:35 |
Nichope | D'oh... again biblicly long... :P | 16:36 |
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louisdk | Does anyone know if the Insmat Flip Case for Jolla is available somewhere? It seems to be sold out everywhere. | 17:04 |
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SpeedEvil | I use a sock. | 17:10 |
goroboro | mmm quote for bash.org: [02/27/14 17:08] <SpeedEvil> I use a sock. | 17:12 |
Quu | SpeedEvil is sock-puppet | 17:12 |
GentSir | SpeedEvil: Do socks make good phone cases? | 17:12 |
SpeedEvil | I added a draw-string and a neck-string. | 17:13 |
SpeedEvil | WFM | 17:13 |
SpeedEvil | Will not for others. | 17:13 |
SpeedEvil | Well - not for some others | 17:13 |
goroboro | GentSir: don't ask that question... he may answer with... 'I have no idea... wasn't referring to phone cases at all' | 17:13 |
goroboro | just teasing | 17:13 |
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GentSir | goroboro: Thought he may have been replying to the guy above asking about a case | 17:14 |
goroboro | my jolla travelled to SA in a sock when I went on vacation | 17:14 |
goroboro | socks work pretty well... | 17:15 |
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Venemo_j | hey | 17:18 |
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Quu | hay | 17:21 |
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louisdk | My old phone uses a standard SIM. I've ordered a SIM cutter because I'm afraid to cut wrong. | 17:24 |
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raimue | louisdk: can't you order a microSIM from your provider? | 17:37 |
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raimue | be aware some people had issues with SIM connection especially on customized cards as the SIM slot does not allow a lot of tolerance | 17:39 |
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Quu | s/some/most/ | 17:45 |
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mornfall | raimue: where does that info come from? | 17:52 |
mornfall | many people with vendor microSIMs have those problems | 17:52 |
raimue | mornfall: discussions on that topic in this channel, TMO, and TJC | 17:53 |
raimue | and also my personal experience :-) | 17:53 |
chem|st | mornfall: most reports of not working sims I know of are custom cut not vendors | 17:53 |
mornfall | no, what I'm asking is where did you get that "especially"? | 17:53 |
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mornfall | ok, so is there a statistic somewhere? | 17:54 |
raimue | might be subjective, I do not have any statistics | 17:54 |
louisdk | raimue: yes i could. Maybe that would be a good idea. | 17:54 |
chem|st | mornfall: recorded... ask Jolla for that | 17:54 |
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raimue | I had problems with a custom cut SIM card and replaced it with a microSIM from my provider which works | 17:54 |
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mornfall | anyway, it doesn't happen very often, but it does happen... | 17:56 |
mornfall | more importantly though, anyone know what is the rapid green blinking (on the led) supposed to mean? | 17:57 |
chem|st | mornfall: that the system has no other option to talk to you atm | 17:57 |
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mornfall | ok, found something | 17:57 |
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chem|st | mornfall: something hung up and it cannot talk to the screen atm | 17:58 |
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mornfall | yeah, found on tmo | 17:58 |
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mornfall | ok, hung gestures are a known issue 1.0.3.8 issue too | 17:59 |
mornfall | I really wish there was an actual bug tracker... TMO is such a mess :\ | 18:00 |
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Carmen28 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 18:03 |
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louisdk | I brought my Jolla 2nd hand and I got this case with it: http://i.imgur.com/QzxzK78.jpg - However It's not leather but neleon so I don't know how protective it is. | 18:07 |
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louisdk | I mean velvet. | 18:08 |
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chem|st | WTF? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnB_BXfMreQ 1:15 | 18:16 |
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chem|st | so I choose Jolla cause I am pissed about all that merchandise and ad loaded android and Sailfish gets its own Ad-Screen? | 18:18 |
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Eztran | Well, at least it's opt-in. Be a shame if that space isn't ever used for anything else, though. | 18:19 |
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chem|st | Eztran: If that is getting configurable it would be nice, so YOU choose what is there when changing TOH or ambience... | 18:20 |
Eztran | I really hope they do something like that... | 18:21 |
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chem|st | yet I am waiting for something special rock-your-socks off for limited edition preorders | 18:21 |
slate | chem|st: so you HAVE to use the angry-birds toh? | 18:21 |
slate | ;) | 18:21 |
chem|st | slate: I am about the estate... the angrybirds content isnt really ads... | 18:21 |
pp_ | ah, it's the angry bird TOH | 18:22 |
chem|st | slate: I want to freely choose what cover activates which ambience | 18:22 |
chem|st | and if there is a dedicated screen I want to choose what is on that screen as well! | 18:23 |
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mikma | youp*** toh would be awesome | 18:23 |
slate | mikma: make one | 18:23 |
slate | I'm sure it can be done. | 18:23 |
mikma | sorry, got my ... err, hands full | 18:23 |
slate | full of what? | 18:23 |
mikma | http://i.imgur.com/DM16L.png | 18:24 |
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GentSir | Now that we've scared away all the women... | 18:28 |
chem|st | it was said that the launcher will get something, not that they remove the ambience-chooser and replace it with a highway-ad-screen | 18:28 |
slate | well they have to make money somewhere dont they? ;) | 18:29 |
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Yaniel | um what? | 18:33 |
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pp_ | lipstick-adnetwork :D | 18:37 |
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chem|st | That's the reason for reserving the border swipes for ambience switcher in both lock and home screens. For launcher side swipes, maybe we have some plans for them, stay tuned ;) Thanks for the good feedback that confirms our initial design intention to provide control over your favorite settings. | 18:48 |
chem|st | slate: ^^ | 18:48 |
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louisdk | I've dreamed of MeeGo got taking seriously and it's really awesome to see the progress that Jolla makes. | 18:56 |
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Yaniel | ah an "other half-dependent content" screen | 18:58 |
bencoh | hmm | 18:59 |
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Yaniel | that makes sense IMHO | 19:01 |
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Acce | yes it does | 19:08 |
Yaniel | if a TOH puts tons of ads there, don't buy it | 19:09 |
Acce | readings for the sensors, settings of your hw kb.. | 19:09 |
Yaniel | yep | 19:09 |
Acce | and when not usable, the stuff goes away = less clutter in the app launcher | 19:09 |
Yaniel | ie. it customizes the UI based on the currently attached cover | 19:10 |
Acce | yep | 19:10 |
Yaniel | just as advertised to begin with | 19:10 |
Acce | sounds great! although, I hope they leave some option to customize it so that it can show whatever you want | 19:10 |
Yaniel | get a custom NFC sticker? | 19:11 |
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Acce | mhmm, but I mean, it would be nice if it was configurable to use something else that your current TOH offers | 19:12 |
Acce | probably just some custom rpm installed though | 19:12 |
Acce | hmm well, maybe it's not needed, as long as it becomes easy to add stuff to the events screen | 19:14 |
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Acce | Sigh, I should've started with something else than a weather app.. I didn't know about MeeCast since I never had N9, now it feels pointless to continue my app | 19:15 |
Acce | well, I guess the features I had planned so far and then move on to the next ideas | 19:16 |
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Nekron_ | Meecast is legend | 19:19 |
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Nekron_ | Me glad it has been ported to sf | 19:20 |
Yaniel | and someone has done a great job adapting the UI | 19:20 |
Yaniel | Acce: make one with a map? | 19:20 |
Acce | I'm glad too, since it brings nice functionality | 19:21 |
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Acce | but at the same time, I have dilemma :) | 19:21 |
Acce | Yaniel: hmm, although nice idea, I'll probably move to my other ideas | 19:21 |
Yaniel | if you have other ideas, sure :) | 19:22 |
Acce | which, hopefully, are something that don't yet exists :) | 19:22 |
* sledges is so much enjoying writing a text on jolla, UI is amazing: choose person's name from list, it shows their phone number, so you are sure you are not texting into landline, but to mobile :) Once clicked on to text area, recipient shows only its name, as numer and extra recipients' fields are not neeed anymore..... b-e-a-u-tiful :) | 19:22 | |
sledges | (text = SMS, here in UK btw :))) | 19:22 |
Eztran | Well, that makes... about as much sense as it's possible to with a UI. | 19:22 |
Acce | I wonder what they're gonna do about text input in the browser / webviews | 19:22 |
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sledges | they will, but i wonder where in priorities list that one is | 19:23 |
Acce | hopefully they can implement the same feature currently in native fields | 19:23 |
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sledges | Eztran: tru, but and you just question every other OS out there - why is it so difficult to get it just right? :) | 19:23 |
Acce | is there someone here who has meddled with the hw keyboard stuff? or someone who knows how I can make every key press on bluetooth keyboard restart the screen shutdown timer? | 19:25 |
sledges | yay, that should be proper fixed ;) | 19:26 |
Eztran | sledges: what's worth including could be subjective at times (though here it seems pretty clear-cut). Also, y'know, the Jolla got some dodgy reviews at first for not doing things like others do. | 19:26 |
sledges | well you can't get 100% right in every step of the way Eztran ;) | 19:26 |
Acce | heh, there are always disbelievers | 19:27 |
Acce | weren't the majority thinking that touch screen will never become popular | 19:27 |
sledges | "we admit we suck" is the phrase of the year we heard said at MWC ;)) | 19:27 |
Eztran | How many companies would say that? :) | 19:27 |
* sledges mumbles about burnt SGS3 and sammy's reaction | 19:28 | |
sledges | :) | 19:28 |
Eztran | (actually, how many companies do worse, and still wouldn't say that?) | 19:28 |
Acce | there's too much saving faces in "traditional" companies | 19:28 |
sledges | they pushed the owner to take down the youtube video | 19:28 |
Acce | which leads to not admitting mistakes early enough to prevent further mistakes.. | 19:29 |
Acce | sledges: what video? | 19:29 |
sledges | Acce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHd-_qncEU | 19:30 |
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sledges | they didn't want to call of the phones if it causes mass panic | 19:36 |
Acce | sledges: interesting | 19:36 |
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sledges | better let houses burn | 19:36 |
sledges | :D | 19:36 |
Acce | lol | 19:36 |
sledges | than generating loss on the company | 19:36 |
sledges | :)) | 19:36 |
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Acce | well, I never liked Samsung, they're growing too pig | 19:37 |
Eztran | Freudian slip there? | 19:37 |
stephg | heh | 19:37 |
sledges | ;) | 19:37 |
Acce | (typo intended ;) | 19:41 |
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stephg | oops I seem to have got the email app into a loop | 20:17 |
Venemo | heh | 20:17 |
stephg | nope, ignore me, connman loop | 20:18 |
Venemo | I just want the march update | 20:18 |
stephg | one more week Venemo | 20:18 |
stephg | but *where* is the ETA ap | 20:18 |
stephg | p | 20:18 |
Venemo | it's called Clock | 20:18 |
Venemo | in the pulley menu, select new timer | 20:19 |
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Morpog_PC | Venemo, I guess they release update not on friday anymore, as they got some critics for that last time. So, maybe Monday we get it. | 20:23 |
Venemo | nah, I'm not that optimistic | 20:23 |
Acce | stephg: https://github.com/Tofee/harbour-unofficialETA ? | 20:23 |
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Venemo | lol at that | 20:25 |
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Kiranos_ | At #Marble | 20:34 |
Kiranos_ | [07:37:40] <Kiranos_> GSOC: idea is it to big a project to start jolla / sailfishos support? | 20:34 |
Kiranos_ | [21:20:15] <Earthwings> hi Kiranos_ | 20:34 |
Kiranos_ | [21:20:38] <Earthwings> Kiranos_: sounds doable to me, if (important) hardware is there to test with | 20:34 |
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Kiranos_ | is jolla sending out phones for projects like these? | 20:34 |
tbr | for what? | 20:34 |
Kiranos_ | marble would be a solution for the top requested feature | 20:34 |
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Kiranos_ | offline navigation | 20:35 |
tbr | does marble use OSM? | 20:35 |
Kiranos_ | jolla sponsoring a GSOC project with a phone | 20:35 |
Kiranos_ | tbr: you can read about it here | 20:36 |
Kiranos_ | http://marble.garage.maemo.org/ | 20:36 |
Kiranos_ | for n900 | 20:36 |
tbr | Kiranos_: I could if I would care, yes | 20:36 |
Kiranos_ | yes you dont have to of course | 20:36 |
Venemo | it should be pretty easy | 20:37 |
Venemo | provided they don't use too much of the KDE bloat | 20:37 |
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tbr | tbh, it would not 'solve' the offline navigation topic, at least not from a business perspective. there are many areas where OSM is not up to the task, but commercial maps are. | 20:38 |
stephg | Acce, that's the badger | 20:38 |
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tbr | it would only solve it from a community point of view | 20:38 |
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tbr | but not from a sales point of view | 20:38 |
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Venemo | tbr ++ | 20:39 |
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Venemo | there'd always be that area which OSM doesn't support or has old / incorrect maps for | 20:40 |
Kiranos_ | well its probably that or nothing, for jolla to purchase offline license for all phones... | 20:41 |
Kiranos_ | theres a reason commercial navigation software is expensive | 20:41 |
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Venemo | anyway, Marbe seems like a nice project, I'd definitely work on it if I had the necessary resources (time) | 20:42 |
tbr | that said, if there is an accepted gsoc project that wants to do something with jolla context... it can't hurt to ask | 20:43 |
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bennypr0fane | Hi, has anyone uploaded a video directly from the Jolla? through the browser or in a different way? | 21:29 |
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Quu | sailbox(dropbox) works | 21:30 |
bennypr0fane | Somehow my Facebook account has vanished as a sharing option, I got only Bluetooth, E-Mail and "add account" | 21:30 |
bennypr0fane | Even though I used it only last week | 21:31 |
bennypr0fane | suddenly it's gone | 21:31 |
Quu | yeah, that happens | 21:31 |
bennypr0fane | Quu to you too? | 21:31 |
Quu | probably to everyone | 21:31 |
bennypr0fane | ever tried sharing a vid to FB? | 21:31 |
Quu | logs off (but notifications work) | 21:31 |
Quu | no, i dont share anything to facebook | 21:31 |
bennypr0fane | ah si that's why I didn't notice it | 21:32 |
artemma | bennypr0fane: I used sailbox for videos once or twice as well. Worked | 21:32 |
artemma | bennypr0fane: sailbox ui is a little strange if you never used it before, but transfers files to dropbox | 21:32 |
slate | I hope younited will bring automatic photo-upload. | 21:32 |
bennypr0fane | do I like need to remove the account and re-add it, or is ther some way to just log it back on? | 21:32 |
bennypr0fane | slate, yesyesyes, they absolutely HAVE TO | 21:32 |
bennypr0fane | THEY MUST! | 21:33 |
bennypr0fane | I'm so psyched about the younited integration | 21:33 |
slate | Funny thing was that I had a younited logosticker on my phone 2 weeks ago. | 21:33 |
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bennypr0fane | artemma It's just a shame it doesn't allow uploading multiple files at once | 21:34 |
artemma | bennypr0fane: it does :) | 21:34 |
bennypr0fane | how? | 21:34 |
artemma | UX is just not very obvious | 21:34 |
artemma | you add several files to the upload queue, then go to transfer and Transfer | 21:34 |
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artemma | actually I am not sure how you can upload files one by one :) | 21:34 |
Stskeeps | good evening | 21:34 |
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artemma | I usually want to upload just one and have to add them to sailbox transfer queue first | 21:35 |
bennypr0fane | did you see the younited 200GB plan is just 80€ (or was it $)? | 21:35 |
bennypr0fane | Stskeeps: and a good one to you! | 21:35 |
artemma | @Stskeeps, evening | 21:35 |
bennypr0fane | artemma: hm, gotta try that | 21:35 |
* Stskeeps is so happy MWC is over, but we had a good one | 21:35 | |
bennypr0fane | why aren't any news from MWC coming in? | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | well for starters their wifi sucked | 21:36 |
bennypr0fane | it's already over? | 21:36 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: that "It is by purpose that we do not provide end-to-end encryption for your files." (from: http://t.co/GHTWkAdDNm ) younited ? | 21:36 |
bennypr0fane | that was short | 21:36 |
artemma | Stskeeps, I've heard coming sailfish build is much faster and doesn't feeze anymore. Good | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | so coverage will come trickling in | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | bennypr0fane: well, mon-thu | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | artemma: yeah, can't wait until it's there to roll out | 21:37 |
bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: yes, that one | 21:37 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: well, for sharing non-sensitive stuff with people, why not | 21:38 |
bennypr0fane | yup, I reeeally hope they did something about that Wifi in Jolla in the new Sailfish | 21:39 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: but they are IMHO overlaying the WE ARE SECURE aspect | 21:39 |
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M4rtinK | *overplaying | 21:39 |
bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: alright, so they don't have THE TOP security standards | 21:40 |
bennypr0fane | just count the cloud providers who do | 21:40 |
M4rtinK | and they are not even trying :) | 21:40 |
bennypr0fane | and whose services we can conveniently use on our Jollas | 21:40 |
M4rtinK | trying = oss client that does end-to-end encryption | 21:40 |
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bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: exactly, and who is? | 21:41 |
M4rtinK | owncloud ? | 21:41 |
bennypr0fane | not a cloud provider | 21:41 |
bennypr0fane | I mean managed cloud storage | 21:41 |
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bennypr0fane | you know what I mean | 21:41 |
bennypr0fane | There is Wuala | 21:41 |
clau | you probably can't get more security and privacy than running your own owncloud server | 21:42 |
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bennypr0fane | they charge 20€ more than Dropbox and don't have Sf client and not going to make one | 21:42 |
M4rtinK | clau: yeah, that is basically what I mean | 21:42 |
clau | how's the support for owncloud currently? | 21:43 |
M4rtinK | it is understandable why cloud providers don't want end-to-end encryption (deduplication, data mining, allows additional features like linking) | 21:43 |
bennypr0fane | like I said that's the top level of security you can get. And who provides that as a services to mere mortals who can't run their own server? | 21:44 |
clau | I recall there's a notes type app with owncloud support, but that's about it | 21:44 |
bennypr0fane | clau CalDAV is coming | 21:44 |
M4rtinK | but then you need to trust them that 1) they are not lying to you 2) the don't get owned | 21:44 |
M4rtinK | *they | 21:44 |
bennypr0fane | ...and that is true for each and every company in the world | 21:44 |
Acce | bennypr0fane: the question is now, how much would you pay for it :D | 21:44 |
bennypr0fane | Acce for what? | 21:45 |
Acce | for the secure cloud | 21:45 |
Acce | for providing ownClouds to "mere mortals" | 21:45 |
bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: where you got your e-mail? calendar? | 21:45 |
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bennypr0fane | I dunno, I'm not gonna go much higher than a 100€ a year | 21:45 |
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M4rtinK | I don't really use a calendar :) | 21:46 |
* artemma thinks life would be so much simpler if everybody would switch to NSA ID. Everyone has one anyway and no more hassle with recalling Yahoo-Gmail-Facebook-Whatever credentials | 21:46 | |
artemma | and integrating them | 21:46 |
M4rtinK | just some timed notifications on my 6610i | 21:46 |
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bennypr0fane | artemma: you are right. OpenID should be implemented world-wide by the NSA | 21:47 |
artemma | I would name it TrustedID though :D | 21:47 |
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artemma | American marketing could use term FreedomID as well :) | 21:47 |
Acce | 100€ / year sounds good enough, depending on how much there is demand | 21:48 |
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M4rtinK | artemma: I kinda wonder why cloud providers are not suing NSA for undermining their business and taking public subsidies on to of that :) | 21:48 |
clau | is there any cloud service that encrypts data on client side, and the client side code is opensource too? | 21:48 |
M4rtinK | clau: that's a good question | 21:49 |
artemma | M4rtinK: to my understanding, american companies management could actually go to jail for admitting NSA activities. There was some news about it | 21:49 |
M4rtinK | clau: I think the Moziila sync worked like this | 21:49 |
bennypr0fane | Younited is secure enough for me. Ease of use counts a great deal. Look at Whatsapp. people give away their whole address book without thinking twice. they love that it's one click and they can msend ugly stickers to all their buddies I don't need industry-grade security. | 21:49 |
Acce | younited sounds great to me too.. but I think their market speeches are bit too cheesy | 21:50 |
bennypr0fane | clau Wuala say they are planning to become open | 21:50 |
clau | bennypr0fane, if you use mitakuuluu you select what you give away | 21:50 |
* artemma thinks Younited is as NSA-proof as any other service with minuscule user base | 21:50 | |
artemma | sorry to say that | 21:50 |
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M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: I consider just using Whatsapp pretty rude due to the address book dumping | 21:50 |
clau | well, it depends a lot on what you want to use the service for | 21:50 |
bennypr0fane | artemma: and how NSA-proofd is that? | 21:50 |
Acce | "we say no to NSA and other goverment stuff (except, if they think you're breaking the law, then we let them have a peek)" | 21:50 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: you are basically violating the trust of everyone who gave his phone number to you | 21:51 |
clau | if you just share stuff that you would share on fb anyway... you don't care about privacy anyway :) | 21:51 |
Acce | is how I interpreted their EULA | 21:51 |
artemma | as long as Younited keeps stuff on their service unencrypted or encrypted with their own key, USA can get it if they really want | 21:51 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: just considering all the telemarketing spam these days | 21:51 |
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tigeli | Acce: well, f-secure already said no to NSA once. | 21:51 |
artemma | just a bit more difficult than if servers were in US | 21:51 |
clau | there's a big problem with clouds and encryption though | 21:51 |
bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: exactly why I don't use Whatsapp. I'm just saying to the average user of whatever, convenience and not paying in money is ahuge selling point | 21:51 |
clau | the service provider may be required by law to provide access to the data | 21:51 |
Acce | so they're just going to scan the user data for illegal activities themselves? How otherwise will they ever find someone using it for illegal sharing | 21:52 |
FireFly | Hm | 21:53 |
clau | Acce, war on terror and such | 21:53 |
M4rtinK | Acce: well the usual case is they get a warrant for it due to some investigation | 21:53 |
clau | and it depends on the country | 21:53 |
bennypr0fane | I'm already my stuff is not on US servers, meaning at least they can't be required by US-law to grant access | 21:53 |
clau | some governments require you to give them the keys if you use encryption | 21:53 |
* artemma BTW has started work on Telegram today. Lo-o-ong way ahead until something usable though. And I won't necessarily succeed | 21:53 | |
FireFly | Commits to Nemo would eventually be pulled in to Sailfish, right? | 21:53 |
M4rtinK | Acce: still, there have been cases where they just basically nicked the whole datacenter in such a case | 21:53 |
clau | and if you fail to do so... well, shit then. | 21:53 |
clau | in fact, think about UK | 21:53 |
FireFly | Which means I should expect to see https://github.com/nemomobile/sd-utils/commit/77df45e7caf69ee1484561deebc9cc607df8f0e2 in some future update? | 21:54 |
M4rtinK | Acce: see the original Piratebay raid as an example | 21:54 |
artemma | FireFly: not all nemo projects have to be in Sailfish, but in general nemo stuff gets to sailfish | 21:54 |
clau | if you have encrypted stuff on your computer and you fail to provide the keys, you go to prison for 2-5 years | 21:54 |
Acce | M4rtinK: mhm. | 21:54 |
FireFly | artemma: well, the sd-utils stuff definitely is | 21:54 |
bennypr0fane | also, anyone can be required by any countrie's law to grant authorities access to your self-hosted Owncloud. So I don't see a big difference | 21:54 |
clau | well, at least you know when they want access | 21:54 |
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clau | because you will be asked for access | 21:55 |
M4rtinK | so here we go again to end2end encryption - if the servers are stolen/appropriated, the data should be almost useless | 21:55 |
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bennypr0fane | I don't even consider the UK as part of the EU in these matters | 21:55 |
Acce | we should encrypt our stuff with some kind of selfdestruct mechanism | 21:56 |
clau | yes | 21:56 |
clau | however, even that is hard to provide | 21:56 |
tigeli | M4rtinK: like you would not give away the encryption key if being tortured :D | 21:56 |
Acce | if bruteforced, it screws the computer | 21:56 |
clau | because you may be considered an accomplice probably. | 21:56 |
clau | I mean, you are helping terrorists, obviously. | 21:56 |
bennypr0fane | aren't we all | 21:56 |
M4rtinK | well, the main aim is to make everyone use end2end | 21:57 |
Acce | "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" same old bulls**t | 21:57 |
clau | few companies will ever attempt that | 21:57 |
M4rtinK | makes dragnet surveillance unworkable | 21:57 |
bennypr0fane | I think the way to go is to make it terribly inconvenient adn uneconomical | 21:57 |
bennypr0fane | to spy on people | 21:57 |
clau | they will make it illegal then :) | 21:58 |
bennypr0fane | but doing that is one hell of a hassle | 21:58 |
M4rtinK | and if everyone has some encrypted stuff, it is better than just pressuring a side case | 21:58 |
bennypr0fane | You have to be an IT professional to do it | 21:58 |
* artemma recalls thermorectal cryptoanalysis practiced by Russian gangsters in 90s. Pretty damned effective with recovering passwords and keys of any complexity | 21:58 | |
Acce | We should begin to lay out our own internet, meter by meter | 21:58 |
bennypr0fane | Acce | 21:58 |
bennypr0fane | hahha | 21:58 |
bennypr0fane | who is "we"? | 21:58 |
M4rtinK | artemma: sure | 21:59 |
Acce | dunno, goverment disliking paranoids? :) | 21:59 |
M4rtinK | artemma: but hopefully doesn't scale for monitoring country scale populations | 21:59 |
clau | check torproject.org | 21:59 |
artemma | M4rtinK: fear is enough :) | 22:00 |
Eztran | Everyone's probably seen it, but http://xkcd.com/538/ | 22:00 |
M4rtinK | artemma: you would have issues just to secure so many soldering irons and people able to operate them | 22:00 |
clau | if you like the project and agree with them, think about donating bandwidth | 22:00 |
clau | just be careful, don't run an exit node unless you know exactly what you are doing. running a router/bridge should be just fine and enough. | 22:00 |
artemma | Eztran, exactly | 22:00 |
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clau | Eztran, obviously :D | 22:01 |
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clau | then again, they would need a lot of time of extracting keys like that from the entire population | 22:02 |
clau | for* | 22:02 |
Eztran | The alt-text makes the better point, though. | 22:03 |
bennypr0fane | that is also the reason we will never have a decentralised social network to rival Fecbook. There are simply not enough people who a) have the knowledge, b) have the resources to provide server space and maintenance, c) care enough to actually do this kind of thing and d)are of the opinion that leads to such actions | 22:03 |
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Agatha25 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:03 |
M4rtinK | clau: and that's the whole point, to make large scale abuse unworkable | 22:03 |
M4rtinK | bennypr0fane: and do we need something like that ? :) | 22:04 |
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bennypr0fane | M4rtinK: nahh, we need everything end-to-end encrypoted, but who gives a shit if everyone'S entire lives is on Facebook | 22:05 |
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clau | bennypr0fane, see retroshare | 22:05 |
bennypr0fane | clau, hm? | 22:06 |
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clau | bennypr0fane, http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/ | 22:06 |
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bennypr0fane | clau, I can't surf the web with that, can I? | 22:08 |
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clau | for surfing, see www.torproject.org | 22:09 |
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bennypr0fane | http://inthesetimes.com/comics/mattbors/16350/the_watchful_eye_of_the_nsa | 22:22 |
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bennypr0fane | has anyone seen anything interesting from MWC? | 22:22 |
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chem|st | bennypr0fane: jolla wise? partner-screen, camera has timer|iso|grid options | 22:39 |
ln- | on many MWC videos there's a Spotify icon in the launcher. is that an official spotify client? | 22:41 |
bennypr0fane | chem|st: where from? | 22:41 |
bennypr0fane | i.e. where did you see it? | 22:41 |
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ln- | bennypr0fane: partner screen for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnB_BXfMreQ | 22:47 |
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Isabella18 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:47 |
bennypr0fane | ln- thanks! | 22:47 |
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clau | there was a UI glitch in the video :) | 23:03 |
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clau | ~3:12 | 23:03 |
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FireFly | Hm. | 23:42 |
FireFly | It'd be nice if hg was added to mer-tools | 23:43 |
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Turski | FireFly: not that it really matters, but what are you doing with hg on device? | 23:46 |
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FireFly | cloning my dotfiles repo | 23:46 |
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Turski | ... ok | 23:46 |
Turski | (i trust in scp on that task) | 23:47 |
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FireFly | I guess that works too, it's just convenient to simply clone a repo and be done with it | 23:47 |
Turski | but when thinking about that, it really sounds handy | 23:49 |
Turski | is there git in mer-tools? | 23:49 |
FireFly | Yup | 23:49 |
FireFly | https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=mer-tools:devel | 23:49 |
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