#jollamobile log for Saturday, 2014-03-01

*** Testaaja has quit IRC00:02
*** Isabella29 has joined #jollamobile00:03
Isabella29 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6900:03
*** Natunen has quit IRC00:04
*** Isabella29 has quit IRC00:04
*** arcean has quit IRC00:07
*** triggerhappy has joined #jollamobile00:07
*** qqK has quit IRC00:09
*** AlmAck has quit IRC00:20
*** vesurivs has quit IRC00:26
*** gigetoo has quit IRC00:31
*** gigetoo has joined #jollamobile00:32
*** miksuh_ has quit IRC00:33
*** AL13N has quit IRC00:35
*** AL13N has joined #jollamobile00:36
*** joered has quit IRC00:39
*** dafox has quit IRC00:39
*** AL13N has quit IRC00:41
*** Zotan has quit IRC00:46
*** miksuh_ has joined #jollamobile00:51
*** artemma has quit IRC01:01
*** Morpog_ has quit IRC01:02
*** ericcc has joined #jollamobile01:03
*** toartist has joined #jollamobile01:04
*** elldekaa has quit IRC01:05
*** ericcc_ has joined #jollamobile01:09
*** ericcc has quit IRC01:11
*** ericcc_ has quit IRC01:14
*** mk2soldier has quit IRC01:18
*** sameo has joined #jollamobile01:22
*** ericcc has joined #jollamobile01:23
*** Morpog_PC has joined #jollamobile01:23
*** BeholdMyGlory has quit IRC01:34
*** Milhouse has quit IRC01:36
*** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile01:36
*** minimec_ has quit IRC01:49
*** covox_ has quit IRC01:50
*** covox has joined #jollamobile01:51
*** Milhouse has quit IRC01:52
*** stuartmd_ has quit IRC01:58
*** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile02:03
*** Kate30 has joined #jollamobile02:03
Kate30 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6902:03
*** Kate30 has quit IRC02:04
*** thrakcattack has quit IRC02:12
*** KaIRC has quit IRC02:14
*** thrakcattack has joined #jollamobile02:14
*** furikku has joined #jollamobile02:16
*** Morpog_ has joined #jollamobile02:17
*** Morpog_PC has quit IRC02:21
*** mfulz has quit IRC02:27
*** lpotter has quit IRC02:30
*** AL13N has joined #jollamobile02:30
*** lpotter has joined #jollamobile02:31
*** artemma has joined #jollamobile02:36
*** lpotter has quit IRC02:40
*** szopin has quit IRC02:51
*** softmetz_ has quit IRC02:55
*** artemma has quit IRC02:56
*** softmetz has joined #jollamobile02:56
*** sameo has quit IRC03:18
*** hylian_ has quit IRC03:49
CraigAUGGGH03:52
CraigABAN03:52
*** katy30 has joined #jollamobile04:03
katy30 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6904:03
*** katy30 has quit IRC04:04
*** lpotter has joined #jollamobile04:18
*** Adityab has quit IRC04:20
*** natunen has joined #jollamobile04:37
*** Milhouse has quit IRC04:44
*** toartist has quit IRC04:47
*** HylianSavior has joined #jollamobile04:54
*** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile04:58
*** natunen has quit IRC04:59
*** triggerhappy has quit IRC04:59
*** protem has joined #jollamobile05:40
*** Milhouse has quit IRC05:42
*** vode has joined #jollamobile05:48
*** martyone has joined #jollamobile05:50
*** planasb has quit IRC05:52
*** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile05:56
*** col`n has joined #jollamobile06:07
*** col`n has left #jollamobile06:13
*** toartist has joined #jollamobile06:23
*** planasb has joined #jollamobile06:29
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile06:31
*** melonipoika has joined #jollamobile06:38
*** planasb has quit IRC06:41
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile06:47
*** itbaron has joined #jollamobile06:50
*** planasb has joined #jollamobile06:54
*** planasb has quit IRC06:59
*** planasb has joined #jollamobile07:01
*** Sailor5543_ has joined #jollamobile07:02
*** matoking has joined #jollamobile07:02
*** phinaliumz has joined #jollamobile07:08
*** planasb has quit IRC07:16
*** minimec has joined #jollamobile07:22
*** planasb has joined #jollamobile07:26
*** Natunen has joined #jollamobile07:27
*** melonipoika has quit IRC07:35
*** Sarvi has quit IRC07:41
*** minimec has quit IRC07:42
*** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile07:44
*** anonfriese_ has joined #jollamobile07:44
*** Tofe|Away is now known as Tofe07:46
*** jreznik has joined #jollamobile07:50
*** Venemo_j has joined #jollamobile07:54
*** edgar2 has joined #jollamobile07:56
*** martyone has quit IRC08:01
*** HarhaanJohtaja has joined #jollamobile08:03
*** AL13N has quit IRC08:03
*** afiestas has quit IRC08:05
*** afiestas has joined #jollamobile08:05
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC08:12
*** Guest11230 has quit IRC08:15
*** varikonniemi has joined #jollamobile08:15
*** Fryella has quit IRC08:17
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile08:20
*** elldekaa has joined #jollamobile08:37
*** martyone has joined #jollamobile08:39
*** FlameReaper has joined #jollamobile08:42
*** NIN101 has joined #jollamobile08:42
*** Fryella has quit IRC08:52
*** ajijjajia has joined #jollamobile08:53
*** FryellaX has joined #jollamobile08:54
*** ortylp has joined #jollamobile08:57
*** FryellaX has quit IRC08:58
*** FryellaX has joined #jollamobile08:59
*** Eismann has joined #jollamobile08:59
*** ericcc has quit IRC09:02
FireFlyThe thing is, it seems to be a botnet so IP-ban doesn't really work, and the nicks are too random that a banmask would cause collateral damage :(09:04
*** martyone has quit IRC09:05
*** ajijjajia has quit IRC09:05
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile09:05
* pp_ doesn't notice anything annoying09:07
*** Blizzz has joined #jollamobile09:07
pp_11:07    1 *: JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS -network freenode09:07
pp_11:07    2 *: PUBLICS -regexp -network freenode -pattern (my_videos69)09:07
*** FryellaX has quit IRC09:07
*** ajijjajia has joined #jollamobile09:08
*** vattuvarg has joined #jollamobile09:08
pp_maybe some chanop could autokickban on the spammy url, but the noise would still be there09:08
inffysigh...ei STILL CAN'T install anything from the jolla app store :<09:09
Stskeeps1.0.2.5 and did you touch developer updates?09:12
Stskeepser, 1.0.0.509:12
inffyno09:15
inffynewest update (new phone, updated straight to the newest)09:15
inffyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1414916#post141491609:16
Stskeepshmm09:17
Stskeepspkmon says anything interesting?09:17
inffyi can install the jolla apps, except the Maps app09:17
Stskeepssounds like a credentials issue09:17
inffyill check09:17
FireFlypp_: oops, I was responding to two five-hour-old lines apparently09:19
FireFlysorry, I hide joins/quits09:19
mikmaok so... i need a working point to point navigation for jolla because i drive around in tampere for work... any suggestions?09:19
mikmaplay store + google maps?09:19
tbrthat's one option.09:20
tbrOSMand _might_ be worth a try, but I didn't hear so good stuff about the navigation bit09:20
mikmai need a really reliable navigation because i can't stop around with the truck to play with the navigation09:22
*** Basil has joined #jollamobile09:23
tbrthen google maps or another of the commercial navigation apps are probably the only options09:24
tbrwith the commercial apps it might be hard as play store paid apps don't work reliably on the jolla09:24
inffyStskeeps, http://pastebin.com/mY0Lfjcd that is all that shows on pkmon when trying to install app09:25
*** Blizzz has quit IRC09:26
*** ericcc has joined #jollamobile09:27
pp_gps + android emu doesn't seem to be the most solid combo :(09:28
tbrworks well for me as long as the GPS has a real fix09:30
*** goroboro has quit IRC09:31
pp_there's been some promises of something native eventually  (I'm sure nokia proper will gladly sell a solution after this business with MS is over :-) )09:31
tbrwhat are you talking about now?09:31
mikmanokia will switch into windows thingy navigations and here is open for business for the takers09:32
pp_I think I saw an official "stay tuned" reply for turn-by-turn navi09:32
mikmathey should say "stay turned" instead09:32
tbrok, so you're talking about native navigation software09:32
tbrbecause there are TWO Nokia aspects here09:32
pp_pbut yea, jolla is already using here maps09:32
tbra) Nokia provides the GPS enhancement data to the Jolla phone09:33
tbrb) Nokia provides the Map tiles to the native map software on the phone09:33
*** phaeron has joined #jollamobile09:34
*** AL13N has joined #jollamobile09:34
tbrand I know first hand, that Nokia is happy to enter into maps and location business with every party willing to fork over the money09:34
pp_yep, I'm sure a bunch of people would gladly pay x eur to get offline maps & turn-by-turn09:35
mikmathey should release NSA navigation09:35
pp_(I would, if the price is right)09:36
tbrnokia is not in the app business though. they do B2B contracts.09:36
*** planasb has quit IRC09:37
*** goroboro has joined #jollamobile09:38
pp_which reminds me to maybe store the n9 in the car :-)09:38
*** elldekaa has quit IRC09:41
*** fk_lx has joined #jollamobile09:44
*** elldekaa has joined #jollamobile09:46
*** ortylp has quit IRC09:52
*** M4rtinK has joined #jollamobile09:52
*** spider-mario has joined #jollamobile09:52
*** stephg has joined #jollamobile09:55
*** Tiffany18 has joined #jollamobile10:03
Tiffany18 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6910:03
*** Tiffany18 has quit IRC10:04
*** dist has joined #jollamobile10:04
*** lpotter has quit IRC10:05
*** lpotter has joined #jollamobile10:05
*** Iryus has joined #jollamobile10:08
*** PeperJohnny has joined #jollamobile10:08
*** Nightmare__ has joined #jollamobile10:08
*** planasb has joined #jollamobile10:09
*** nsuffys has joined #jollamobile10:12
*** phaeron has quit IRC10:12
*** stephg has quit IRC10:18
*** triggerhappy has joined #jollamobile10:21
*** Iryus has quit IRC10:23
*** Iryus_ has joined #jollamobile10:23
*** elldekaa has quit IRC10:25
*** elldekaa_ has joined #jollamobile10:25
*** Iryus_ has quit IRC10:29
*** Iryus_ has joined #jollamobile10:29
*** onurati has joined #jollamobile10:30
*** Pat_o has quit IRC10:31
*** TimTTK has joined #jollamobile10:33
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile10:41
*** FlameReaper has quit IRC10:44
*** triggerhappy has quit IRC10:45
*** HylianSavior has quit IRC10:49
*** vode has quit IRC10:49
*** Iryus_ has quit IRC10:51
*** PeperJohnny has quit IRC10:53
*** FlameReaper has joined #jollamobile10:53
*** vattuvarg has quit IRC10:57
*** Petri has joined #jollamobile10:57
AL13Nwrt µSD what type should i pick?10:58
AL13Nshould i get UHS or should i get certain brands?10:58
ggabriel_tricky11:00
ggabriel_not sure the jolla needs a lot of speed (like a gopro hero 3 black)11:00
ggabriel_so read reviews, check good warranty, i guess11:00
ggabriel_faster microsd's will perform better ofc11:00
*** mk2soldier has joined #jollamobile11:02
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile11:02
M4rtinKI have some probably fast 64 GB A-Data one11:03
*** Meizirkki has joined #jollamobile11:03
M4rtinKI think it is UHS (whatever that is)11:04
ggabriel_never heard about a-data, is it good?11:04
ggabriel_M4rtinK: lol, yeah, i tested quite a few and they are all almost the same speedwise11:04
M4rtinKI guess11:04
M4rtinKI think I got after reading some benchmarks11:05
M4rtinKindicating this one was a bit better than the others, speed & cost wise11:05
tbrAL13N: question is what you want to do. random access or continuous read/write11:06
M4rtinKboth ? :)11:06
M4rtinKIIRC random access rather sucks on most SD cards11:07
M4rtinKand sequential speed isn't that good either11:07
Triztbit lag here, but gps + anything seems to be a not working combo in Jolla, no matter how many satellites are in view11:08
M4rtinKyou can really see the difference to SSDs - single crappy controller & single NAND vs smarter controller & multiple "raided" NAND chips11:08
SpeedEvilSDs are SSDs.11:09
SpeedEvilThey're just usually much suckier.11:09
SpeedEvilAlso - SDs do not have single nand.11:09
SpeedEvilThey have up to 9 chips stacked on each other - even in microSDs.11:09
tbrthe controller on SDs is usually optimized for sequential operations11:10
SpeedEvilyeah11:10
tbryou need to try which ones are good for random io11:10
tbrtranscend _used_ to be ok, _certain_ samsung cards were ok11:11
tbrit's hit and miss11:11
*** Fryella has quit IRC11:11
ggabriel_big data on microsd11:11
*** vesurivs has joined #jollamobile11:11
SpeedEvilsamsung had a really fast series11:11
ggabriel_i'd be weary about warranty re samsung11:12
SpeedEvilhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=115036911:12
SpeedEvilerr - sandisk11:12
SpeedEvilsrry - I keep getting those two condused11:12
ggabriel_sandisk is good re warranty11:12
* tbr would never trust anything coming out of XDA11:12
ggabriel_but they classified a class 10 wrongly11:13
tbrsandisk used to suck, badly11:13
ggabriel_it still does sometimes :)11:13
tbrthere is an io-benchmarking tool for sdcards11:13
tbrget it, test the cards11:13
ggabriel_fwiw, i have a lexar in my gopro and it's very good11:13
ggabriel_i have11:13
ggabriel_and they all perform pretty much the same :P11:13
ggabriel_unless they're very old11:14
SpeedEvilErr - no.11:14
SpeedEvilThey all perform more-or-less similarly _FOR_SEQUENTIAL_WRITE_11:14
ggabriel_let me rephrase: my cards all perform pretty much the same11:14
SpeedEvilFor random, or small block write, they vary between several kilobytes and several megabytes a second11:15
ggabriel_i don't have transcend, samsung, only generics (the ones that used to come for free with phones), sandisk, lexar11:15
ggabriel_well, not my experience11:15
ggabriel_myabe i have a delkin, not a lexar11:15
*** triggerhappy has joined #jollamobile11:20
*** Morpog_ has quit IRC11:20
*** Morpog_ has joined #jollamobile11:21
M4rtinKBTW, someone did a rudimentary eMMC vs uSD benchmark a while ago: https://together.jolla.com/question/25286/are-the-data-buses-for-microsd-and-internal-flash-separate/#post-id-2575311:26
*** arcean has joined #jollamobile11:27
M4rtinKactually, a uSD speed tested would be a nice application :)11:27
*** Blizzz has joined #jollamobile11:27
SpeedEvilI got (IIRC) 30 megabytes/second using EMMC/microSD/onenand on the n90011:28
*** Sail0r has quit IRC11:28
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile11:29
SpeedEvil(read)11:29
tbrM4rtinK: exists, don't remember the details, but I see it scroll through my g+ stream once in a while, enough embedded and kernel ppl there11:30
M4rtinKtbr: well, I mean a Sailfish application11:31
tbrshouldn't be too hard to make an GUI for that. the tool returns plain text11:32
M4rtinKtbr: yeah, should be pretty easy11:32
*** Sail0r has quit IRC11:33
*** TimTTK has quit IRC11:33
*** TimTTK has joined #jollamobile11:34
*** ajaijjaj has joined #jollamobile11:35
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile11:36
*** ajijjajia has quit IRC11:38
*** Petri has quit IRC11:38
*** teksu__ has quit IRC11:49
*** Adityab has joined #jollamobile11:54
*** b0unc3 has joined #jollamobile11:55
*** Jettis has joined #jollamobile11:56
*** Morpog_ has quit IRC11:56
*** KaIRC has joined #jollamobile11:56
*** Morpog_ has joined #jollamobile11:57
*** Morpog_ has quit IRC12:02
*** Morpog_ has joined #jollamobile12:02
*** jreznik has quit IRC12:03
*** Sail0r has quit IRC12:05
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile12:06
*** jreznik has joined #jollamobile12:06
*** Emily20 has joined #jollamobile12:06
Emily20 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6912:07
*** Stskeeps sets mode: +b *!*@67.221.255.*12:07
*** Emily20 has quit IRC12:08
*** vode has joined #jollamobile12:08
*** Pat_o has quit IRC12:09
tbrStskeeps:  any chance to get a +s on the two channels?12:10
tbrit _might_ help, unless the bots are on a static list12:10
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile12:12
Stskeepsconsidering it12:12
*** messerting has joined #jollamobile12:14
*** ChanServ sets mode: +s 12:14
*** triggerhappy has quit IRC12:16
*** Sail0r2 has joined #jollamobile12:17
*** Jpel has joined #jollamobile12:18
*** TimTTK_ has joined #jollamobile12:19
*** Sail0r has quit IRC12:20
ericcconly one  channel had not  bot12:25
*** xth has joined #jollamobile12:26
*** Sail0r2 has quit IRC12:29
*** onurati has quit IRC12:31
*** protem has quit IRC12:32
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile12:33
*** Venemo_j has joined #jollamobile12:37
*** Pat_o has quit IRC12:40
*** tetris4 has joined #jollamobile12:42
*** Kimmoli_jolla has joined #jollamobile12:42
suyI didn't see the bot on #qt, for example. And it has more users. I wonder what criterion they use to spam channels.12:43
tbris that channel +p or +s?12:43
*** Kimmoli_jolla has quit IRC12:45
*** ericcc has quit IRC12:45
suyI don't know how to check, sorry. :-|12:46
*** triggerhappy has joined #jollamobile12:47
*** b0unc3 has quit IRC12:48
*** ericcc has joined #jollamobile12:48
*** teksu__ has joined #jollamobile12:51
*** szopin has joined #jollamobile12:52
*** xnbya has joined #jollamobile12:54
*** b0unc3 has joined #jollamobile12:55
Nightmare__#qt is just +nt13:00
*** Zotan has joined #jollamobile13:01
*** dafox has joined #jollamobile13:01
*** BeholdMyGlory has joined #jollamobile13:02
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile13:02
tbrno idea then13:05
*** Nichope has joined #jollamobile13:08
*** Pat_o has quit IRC13:08
*** GentSir has joined #jollamobile13:09
GentSirMorning all13:12
GentSirerr, morning some13:12
Stskeepsmorn GentSir13:14
GentSirStskeeps: How's development going?13:14
Stskeepswell, my brain is slowly returning after a hefty week at MWC13:15
GentSirOh yes. Anything really interesting? Aside from the keyboard toh, I think I've seen everything that pertains to that.13:15
Venemo_jhey guys :)13:16
StskeepsGentSir: a fair bit of interesting demos, but mostly a lot of interest from people13:17
*** artemma has joined #jollamobile13:17
GentSirStskeeps: Have to have followers to keep the dream alive. Can't all be about the tech :)13:18
Stskeepsyeah13:18
Stskeepsmoo Venemo_j13:18
Stskeepsit was definately a big morale boost13:18
*** elldekaa_ has quit IRC13:19
GentSirI don't care how clunky and unpolished Sailfish is at the moment, Mer is the real exciting part for me13:19
szopinStskeeps: is it safe to modify build.prop in /opt/alien/system?13:19
Venemo_jStskeeps: moo! how're you nowadays? :)13:19
Stskeepsszopin: hard to say, but isn't build.prop a symlink to /system/build.prop?13:21
Stskeepsif so, veery bad idea13:21
StskeepsVenemo_j: tiiired13:21
szopinno13:21
szopinthey differ13:21
szopin the one in /system has jollanaming everywhere13:22
szopinthe one in /opt has alienbionic naming13:22
szopinmodifyin both was nasty, luckily reseting worked13:22
szopinwant to get that andoird mixradio working :)13:23
*** pdanek1 has quit IRC13:23
*** pdanek has joined #jollamobile13:23
Venemo_jStskeeps: of all the mwc fuss?13:24
*** FlameReaper has quit IRC13:24
Stskeepsyes13:27
Stskeepswell, no13:27
Stskeepsof all the work13:27
*** bef0rd has quit IRC13:27
*** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile13:28
Venemo_jah13:28
szopinhmm... resetting and then reset device: memory usage still 11.6/13.713:28
Venemo_jI hope ypu're at least getting some decent rest on the weekend Stskeeps13:29
M4rtinKbtrfs memory usage manifests in mysterious ways13:29
*** AlmAck has joined #jollamobile13:29
*** PeperJohnny has joined #jollamobile13:30
szopinyeah, file browser shows empty dirs, weird13:30
Gordon`hi13:32
*** TimTTK_ has quit IRC13:32
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile13:33
*** bef0rd has quit IRC13:33
Gordon`I’m still having very frequent reboots, happening in phases (sometimes, it reboots, then I can’t boot again for more than 5 minutes, except if I doesn’t enable SIM card)13:33
*** lpotter has quit IRC13:33
Gordon`since my last discussion here with sledges, I’ trying to catch the error message in logs (via ssh over usb), but as soon as I plug the phone, the reboots stops…13:34
*** lpotter has joined #jollamobile13:34
Gordon`have anyone ever noticed that?13:34
szopinhad only one random reboot so far, the phone was unplugged ctually13:36
*** Pat_o has quit IRC13:40
*** KangOl has joined #jollamobile13:43
*** arcean_ has joined #jollamobile13:44
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile13:44
*** radekp__ has joined #jollamobile13:44
*** arcean has quit IRC13:45
*** arcean_ has quit IRC13:47
*** arcean_ has joined #jollamobile13:47
*** TimTTK_ has joined #jollamobile13:54
*** Aneemz has joined #jollamobile13:56
*** arcean_ has quit IRC13:56
*** Blizzz has quit IRC13:58
*** arcean__ has joined #jollamobile14:00
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile14:02
*** Pat_o has quit IRC14:08
*** FlameReaper has joined #jollamobile14:08
*** thessy has joined #jollamobile14:10
*** arcean__ is now known as arcean14:10
*** thessy has quit IRC14:10
Venemo_jhmm14:11
StskeepsGordon`: take out battery for 10 minutes14:11
Venemo_jhas anyone ever looked at the jolla screen in sunlight?14:11
ggabriel_not yet14:12
Stskeepsno, we stay in caves all the time14:12
Gordon`Stskeeps: should that stop the reboots?14:12
Gordon`(I’m not in bootloop)14:12
*** szopin_ has joined #jollamobile14:13
*** mfulz has joined #jollamobile14:13
Azogthere is no sun in .fi anyway *g*14:14
szopin_hmm14:14
inffywell that thing is shining at the moment here :D14:14
skvarkyep :D14:14
szopinit's not a moon14:15
inffyno not the moon :P14:15
inffycursed thing14:15
szopinback on 1.0.3.8, that went rather smooth14:15
*** szopin_ has quit IRC14:15
Venemo_jI have, right now14:16
ggabriel_Venemo_j: you're killing me with the suspense14:16
Venemo_jit's hardly readable at all14:16
ggabriel_brightness all the way up?14:16
szopinis enabling developer updates still discouraged?14:17
Venemo_jggabriel_: hm, worth.a try14:18
ggabriel_gotta say, same with the n914:18
ggabriel_altho the last time i saw proper sun was in the mountains, and the snow makes everything worse14:18
ggabriel_your eyes have to adjust to the phone14:18
Venemo_jresult is the same14:18
ggabriel_shame14:19
*** mfulz has quit IRC14:19
szopinhmmm... worked well for me in the mountains, maybe try different ambience?14:19
Venemo_jwhite is sort of readable, highlightcolor almost readable, secondary color not readable at all14:19
szopinwith darker background img/higher contrast14:20
Venemo_jit's mostly the same14:20
Venemo_jsecondary color is not readable with either ambience14:20
AL13Nanyone know if i can install qt5 on a KDE4 system without conflicts?14:22
AL13Ni'd like to run a qt5 qml app on my desktop too14:22
*** AmAH has quit IRC14:22
*** TMavica has joined #jollamobile14:22
*** KangOl has quit IRC14:24
*** AmAH has joined #jollamobile14:24
TMavicadisappointed sailfish 1.0 wont have other chinese input method..sad14:26
szopinis the feature list for 1.0 public?14:26
Venemo_jTMavica: why?14:26
ggabriel_not that i know of14:27
ggabriel_there's a mar14 tag in tjc with 9 items i think14:27
ggabriel_normally the release notes are much longer than that14:27
* ggabriel_ ready to be disappointed with lack of caldav14:27
Venemo_jAL13N: yes, depending on how sane the packagers or your OS are14:27
AL13Ni figured as much14:28
Venemo_jggabriel_: link pls14:28
*** Bryal has joined #jollamobile14:28
ggabriel_Venemo_j: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:age-desc/tags:mar14/page:1/14:28
Venemo_jAL13N: on Fedora I can have Qt4 and Qt5 alongside each other14:28
Venemo_jggabriel_: march 14?14:29
ggabriel_yup14:29
Venemo_jthat's not early march14:29
ggabriel_arguable14:29
ggabriel_there's this too:14:29
ggabriel_https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:age-desc/tags:1.0.4.1/page:1/14:29
szopingah... still in 1.0.2.5 turns out14:29
ggabriel_but nothing comprehensive14:30
ggabriel_so we're in for a surprise14:30
szopinit's supposed to be big, really hoping for LTE support with calls/sms14:30
*** Fryella has quit IRC14:31
Sail0rI hope they don't make people sad which expect a fully functional phone after march update14:31
AL13NVenemo_j: ping were you the one with the puzzle master? or was that someone else?14:31
TMavicaVenemo_j because I cant type that default suck chinese input method14:31
kehnoomaybe the 14 is for year?14:32
AL13Nheh14:32
ggabriel_kehnoo: yeah, i thought that was obvious14:32
*** KangOl has joined #jollamobile14:32
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile14:32
TMavicathat default chinese input method, nobody use it I am sure14:34
TMavicais nobody know how to use14:34
*** equalsraf_ has quit IRC14:36
*** Pat_o has quit IRC14:38
*** nsuffys has quit IRC14:42
*** Iryus_ has joined #jollamobile14:42
*** Iryus_ is now known as Iryus14:43
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile14:44
*** plfiorini has quit IRC14:44
*** Testaaja has joined #jollamobile14:46
*** clau has joined #jollamobile14:49
*** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile14:50
*** Sailor5543 has joined #jollamobile14:51
*** Sailor5543_ has quit IRC14:51
*** clau has quit IRC14:54
*** disharmonic has joined #jollamobile14:54
*** disharmonic has joined #jollamobile14:54
*** szopin has quit IRC14:56
*** plfiorini has quit IRC14:56
*** szopin has joined #jollamobile14:57
*** s1gk1ll has joined #jollamobile14:58
*** s1gk1ll is now known as Guest1811914:58
szopinfeature-xt9 update available in warehouse.... march update closing in14:58
*** PeperJohnny has quit IRC14:59
*** Guest19997 has quit IRC14:59
*** onurati has joined #jollamobile15:01
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile15:02
TMavicamaybe today?15:03
*** KangOl has quit IRC15:04
*** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile15:06
*** toartist has quit IRC15:08
*** KangOl has joined #jollamobile15:12
*** Jpel has quit IRC15:12
*** Zotan has quit IRC15:15
*** Sail0r has quit IRC15:16
*** ortylp has joined #jollamobile15:16
*** Sailor5543_ has joined #jollamobile15:18
*** Zotan has joined #jollamobile15:18
*** Sailor5543 has quit IRC15:19
*** Nekron_ has joined #jollamobile15:21
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile15:21
Skorpyszopin: I think the feature-xt9 update has been available for a while now.15:25
*** mk2soldier has quit IRC15:29
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile15:30
Venemo_jAL13N: yep, it's me15:31
*** Zotan has quit IRC15:31
*** Basil has quit IRC15:31
*** Basil has joined #jollamobile15:32
*** Zotan has joined #jollamobile15:33
AL13NVenemo_j: you remember the discussion we had?15:38
AL13NVenemo_j: about complexity?15:39
AL13Nand the warning15:39
*** Pat_o has quit IRC15:39
AL13Nwell... the max settings are too easy for me... i need more & smaller pieces15:39
Venemo_jAL13N: yes, I do remember15:39
AL13Ni've done about 10 so far... i finish the max settings in a few minutes15:40
Venemo_jAL13N: sorry, just haven't had the time to update it yet15:40
AL13Nnp15:40
AL13Nand i don't mean the scrolling thing15:40
Venemo_jAL13N: scrolling thing?15:40
AL13Njust upgrade the max to 12x9 or something15:40
AL13NVenemo_j: you remember where pieces would go out of screen, because of zooming etc...15:41
AL13Nforget that for a minute15:41
AL13Njust rebuild with 12x9 maximums :-)15:41
AL13Nkeep the warning ::-)15:41
*** Eztran has joined #jollamobile15:41
*** Fryella has quit IRC15:45
Venemo_jAL13N: allright15:49
AL13Nor 16x12 ?15:49
* AL13N hides15:49
AL13Ni donno what is still feasible15:49
*** Pat_o has joined #jollamobile15:50
*** Fryella has joined #jollamobile15:52
*** dafox has quit IRC15:58
*** jmlich has joined #jollamobile15:58
Venemo_jAL13N: the algorithm doesn't have limits16:01
AL13Nfeasible for the hands on a jolla16:02
AL13N:-)16:02
*** Morpog_ has quit IRC16:10
*** TimTTK has quit IRC16:13
*** thessy has joined #jollamobile16:13
*** szopin has quit IRC16:15
*** Meizirkki has quit IRC16:15
*** plfiorini has quit IRC16:16
*** triggerhappy has quit IRC16:17
*** Basil has quit IRC16:18
*** krnlyng has quit IRC16:19
*** b0bben has quit IRC16:19
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile16:20
Venemo_jokay AL13N I'll keep it in mind and make a release as soon as I can!16:22
AL13Nnp16:22
AL13Nthx16:22
*** krnlyng has joined #jollamobile16:23
*** jjarven has quit IRC16:23
*** b0bben has quit IRC16:24
*** ericcc_ has joined #jollamobile16:29
*** ericcc has quit IRC16:30
*** jmlich has quit IRC16:32
*** clau has joined #jollamobile16:38
Venemo_jAL13N: out of curiosity, can you use multitouch rotation on the hardest difficulties or do you use the rotation guides?16:38
*** Andy80 has joined #jollamobile16:39
*** arcean_ has joined #jollamobile16:40
*** arcean has quit IRC16:41
AL13NVenemo_j: i can use them when more than one piece has joined16:42
AL13Non a single piece is difficult16:42
AL13Nbut possible16:42
Venemo_jAlmAck: ok16:42
AL13N?16:42
Venemo_jAL13N: ok16:42
AL13N:-)16:43
*** jjarven has joined #jollamobile16:43
AL13NVenemo_j: also, just a suggestion, they aren't that randomly exploded16:43
*** jmlich has joined #jollamobile16:43
AL13Nmaybe if you exploded all pieces at once and a bit more turning while exploding16:43
AL13Nbut that's very low priority16:44
*** thessy has quit IRC16:45
*** jreznik has quit IRC16:46
*** szopin has joined #jollamobile16:47
*** jreznik has joined #jollamobile16:48
*** jmlich has quit IRC16:51
*** Bryal has quit IRC16:51
mornfallso is it the "when is the update coming" time yet?16:54
szopinyes16:54
Accemornfall: no, that time is next week16:54
M4rtinKwell, so it is basically the 4th update16:54
M4rtinKcan we call it...16:54
M4rtinKPR 1.4 ? :D16:54
ggabriel_mornfall: how should I put it?16:54
ggabriel_soon16:54
*** anonfriese__ has joined #jollamobile16:54
M4rtinKwould make a nice thread title :)16:54
*** anonfriese_ has quit IRC16:54
mornfallI'm a little annoyed with those new bugs.16:55
mornfall"new"16:55
mornfallSo I guess it's time for a fresh set. :P16:55
ggabriel_that's the only way forward16:56
*** clau2 has joined #jollamobile16:58
*** mord has joined #jollamobile16:59
*** clau has quit IRC16:59
Venemo_jAL13N: they are pretty random17:00
*** clau2 has quit IRC17:01
*** Nekron_ has quit IRC17:02
*** clau2 has joined #jollamobile17:03
*** Varmonger has joined #jollamobile17:05
*** ericcc has joined #jollamobile17:08
*** ericcc_ has quit IRC17:09
*** ericcc has quit IRC17:10
matokingDoes anyone here have an idea how to get license validation in Android apps to work?17:11
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #jollamobile17:13
tilldo you mean installing paid apps?17:15
*** Varmonger has quit IRC17:15
*** clau2 is now known as clau17:15
matoking@till No, I have a workaround for installing paid apps17:17
*** stephg has joined #jollamobile17:17
matoking@till The problem is when an app has a license check when the app is started17:17
matokingThe app in question is DraStic17:19
*** mfulz has joined #jollamobile17:20
*** ortylp has quit IRC17:25
*** mfulz has quit IRC17:28
*** arcean_ is now known as arcean17:29
tillsry can't help you with that17:31
*** Testaaja has quit IRC17:35
*** cardinal has joined #jollamobile17:36
*** cardinal is now known as hcarrega17:36
*** arcean_ has joined #jollamobile17:41
*** anonfriese__ has quit IRC17:42
*** arcean has quit IRC17:42
*** SfietKonstantin has joined #jollamobile17:44
*** friese has joined #jollamobile17:44
inffywhat folder should own ringtones be put?17:45
inffyi don't want them to show up on the media player17:45
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile17:46
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC17:47
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #jollamobile17:50
*** friese has quit IRC17:51
*** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC17:52
*** SfietKonstantin has joined #jollamobile17:54
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC17:55
*** jreznik has quit IRC17:56
*** jreznik has joined #jollamobile17:56
*** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC18:00
*** b0bben has quit IRC18:00
*** SfietKonstantin has joined #jollamobile18:00
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile18:01
M4rtinKinffy: I'm elegantly solving such issues by using songs as ringtones :)18:02
*** ljennia_ has joined #jollamobile18:03
*** b0bben has quit IRC18:05
*** friese has joined #jollamobile18:05
*** varikonniemi has quit IRC18:08
*** Tofe is now known as Tofe|Away18:08
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC18:09
*** petantik has quit IRC18:11
*** petantik has joined #jollamobile18:11
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile18:13
*** elldekaa has joined #jollamobile18:15
*** krnlyng has quit IRC18:19
*** Morpog_PC has joined #jollamobile18:21
inffyM4rtinK, true :)18:22
*** vladest has quit IRC18:25
*** phinaliumz has quit IRC18:26
*** TMavica has quit IRC18:26
*** FlameReaper has quit IRC18:26
*** Sail0r has quit IRC18:27
*** Venemo_j has joined #jollamobile18:28
*** Sail0r has joined #jollamobile18:30
*** szopin has quit IRC18:34
matokingYes!18:36
matokingI found a patching utility which I could use to remove the license check18:37
matokingAnd yes, I did buy the appliction18:37
ggabriel_"patching" ;-)18:37
*** onurati has quit IRC18:38
matokingYeah, I had to remove the license checking from the application because it didn't work18:38
matokingI guess I understand now why people hate DRM :P18:38
ggabriel_and i think you're within your rights18:38
Mnsu_anybody have an idea what might cause package managers to hang and jolla-store to show no installed apps ("My apps" from pulley) etc?18:38
*** Blizzz has joined #jollamobile18:39
ggabriel_Mnsu_: locking issues?18:40
Mnsu_ggabriel_: possibly yes, but happens also right after a reboot18:41
ggabriel_don't know then, never happened to me18:41
*** clau has quit IRC18:41
*** krnlyng has joined #jollamobile18:44
*** stuartmd has joined #jollamobile18:46
*** varikonniemi has joined #jollamobile18:47
*** itbaron has quit IRC18:47
*** bef0rd has joined #jollamobile18:48
*** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile18:50
*** friese has quit IRC18:53
*** Sailor5543_ has quit IRC18:54
*** clau has joined #jollamobile18:59
*** clau has quit IRC18:59
*** clau has joined #jollamobile18:59
*** b0bben has quit IRC19:03
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile19:04
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC19:10
*** cb400f has joined #jollamobile19:13
*** cb400f has joined #jollamobile19:13
*** jreznik has quit IRC19:16
*** master_of_master has joined #jollamobile19:18
*** master_o1_master has quit IRC19:21
*** KangOl has quit IRC19:24
*** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC19:27
*** SfietKonstantin has joined #jollamobile19:28
*** furikku has quit IRC19:30
*** melonipoika has joined #jollamobile19:30
*** nibbler has quit IRC19:31
*** cb400f has quit IRC19:31
*** nibbler has joined #jollamobile19:48
*** pvanhoof has joined #jollamobile19:50
*** shanttu has joined #jollamobile19:51
*** jreznik has joined #jollamobile19:52
*** mornfall has quit IRC20:01
*** amizraa has quit IRC20:01
*** phlixi has joined #jollamobile20:02
*** mornfall has joined #jollamobile20:02
*** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC20:08
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #jollamobile20:08
*** b0bben has quit IRC20:12
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile20:12
*** elldekaa has quit IRC20:15
*** melonipoika has quit IRC20:15
*** b0bben has quit IRC20:17
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC20:21
*** nodevel has joined #jollamobile20:22
*** radekp__ has quit IRC20:33
*** equalsraf_ has joined #jollamobile20:35
*** artemma has quit IRC20:39
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #jollamobile20:39
*** Iryus has quit IRC20:43
*** NIN101 has quit IRC20:44
*** vode has quit IRC20:48
*** jreznik has quit IRC20:50
*** Sailor5543_ has joined #jollamobile20:51
*** Aneemz has quit IRC20:53
*** b0bben has joined #jollamobile20:56
*** Nightmare__ has quit IRC20:56
*** Nightmare__ has joined #jollamobile20:56
*** ortylp has joined #jollamobile20:59
*** stuartmd has quit IRC21:00
*** cameris has joined #jollamobile21:00
*** ortylp has quit IRC21:04
*** artemma has joined #jollamobile21:05
*** cameris has quit IRC21:05
*** onurati has joined #jollamobile21:06
*** Nekron_ has joined #jollamobile21:08
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC21:13
*** arturo182 has quit IRC21:19
*** niuran has joined #jollamobile21:32
*** b0bben has quit IRC21:36
*** niuran has left #jollamobile21:36
*** Nekron_ has quit IRC21:37
*** matoking has quit IRC21:41
*** PamNor has joined #jollamobile21:43
*** HylianSavior has joined #jollamobile21:44
*** shanttu has quit IRC21:45
*** ljennia has joined #jollamobile21:46
*** ljennia_ has quit IRC21:49
*** edgar2 has quit IRC21:50
*** Andy80 has quit IRC21:51
*** ljennia_ has joined #jollamobile21:52
*** ljennia has quit IRC21:52
*** onurati has quit IRC21:54
*** Aranel has joined #jollamobile22:02
*** ljennia has joined #jollamobile22:09
*** ljennia_ has quit IRC22:11
*** TimTTK has joined #jollamobile22:13
*** Milhouse has quit IRC22:18
*** TimTTK has quit IRC22:20
*** TimTTK has joined #jollamobile22:20
*** Milhouse has joined #jollamobile22:29
*** fk_lx has quit IRC22:30
*** TimTTK_ has quit IRC22:34
*** Sailor5543_ has quit IRC22:35
*** martyone has joined #jollamobile22:36
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC22:40
*** radekp__ has joined #jollamobile22:41
*** artemma has quit IRC22:43
*** fk_lx has joined #jollamobile22:47
*** jesperC_ has joined #jollamobile22:53
*** mk2soldier has joined #jollamobile22:54
*** Pat_o has quit IRC22:55
*** artemma has joined #jollamobile23:07
*** fk_lx has quit IRC23:08
*** RST38h has joined #jollamobile23:16
*** clau has quit IRC23:16
*** phaeron has joined #jollamobile23:19
*** dafox has joined #jollamobile23:27
*** martyone has quit IRC23:28
*** TimTTK has quit IRC23:34
*** TimTTK has joined #jollamobile23:34
*** spider-mario has quit IRC23:38
*** mfulz has joined #jollamobile23:40
*** AlmAck has quit IRC23:42
*** Nightmare__ has quit IRC23:43
*** triggerhappy has joined #jollamobile23:46
*** phaeron has quit IRC23:50
*** Aneemz_ has joined #jollamobile23:51
*** pdanek has quit IRC23:51
*** plfiorini has quit IRC23:53
*** ajaijjaj has quit IRC23:55
*** HarhaanJohtaja has quit IRC23:57
*** plfiorini has joined #jollamobile23:57
*** jesperC_ has quit IRC23:59

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!