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CraigAanyone know if Jolla works in Japan (NTT DoCoMo network)?04:54
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ln-could random reboots have something to do with having or not having an SD card in the slot?07:24
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pp__mostly it's the battery loose thing I guess?07:27
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ln-a few days ago i experienced 3..4 reboots within 24 hours, yet my jolla has never ever randomly rebooted before. i recently added an SD card, that's all that has changed.07:33
pp_suppose sd card could cause more power peaks or whatnot07:34
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pp_anyway, try the take battery out for 10 mins and put some paper there trick07:34
pp_mine has been happier since07:34
entilhttp://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002731.html xiaomi :(07:34
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ln-entil: that shouldn't matter to anyone who is syncing their contacts through e.g. google.07:36
ln-... because they've given up their privacy already.07:37
mikmaln-: yes but they have actually set up the sync in their phones. that one does it without setting it up07:38
entilln-: what mikma said, and yes, that's not defending google... also everyone knows google will nsa your ass07:39
mekluwell, Xiamoi sending it over plain HTTP doesn't really help their case...07:42
meklu*Xiaomi07:43
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entilthis only proves that even paranoid people have enemis07:44
pp_the smart ones use https and cert pinning07:44
pp_so it's more difficult to find out that they're invading your privacy07:44
mikmaand soon everyone will start hunting for Nokia 8210 phones07:45
SK_workxiaomi will china-nsa your ass too07:48
SK_workmikma: and typewriters07:48
* tbr patpats his Siemens P1 and Nokia 161007:50
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VDVsxSK_work, started already :) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2328230807:55
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AL13N_workentil: you too?07:55
SK_workVDVsx: I know, that why I told about this :)07:55
SK_workhum for sure there is some spyware in the qualcomm bits on the Jolla07:56
VDVsxand they are really good: "Unlike printers, every typewriter had its own individual typing pattern which made it possible to link every document to a particular machine, Izvestiya said." gegege07:56
SK_workdon't feel "safe"07:56
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mekluisn't there this blob in most devices that controls the radio parts?07:58
meklubasically something really explosively fragile that happens to practically own the device07:58
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sharpnelimeklu: To be honest there isn't many other ways to send arbitrary data from the phone to the manufacturer if you don't control the access points too07:59
sharpneliAnd those are made by different companies.07:59
mekluand for no reason other than it being really expensive to certify that stuff07:59
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mekluwell, I'm talking about arbitrary people, not even controlling the network, being able to cause some serious damage08:00
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Cal-Dron1miu08:00
SK_workCal-Dron1: meww08:01
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tbrmeklu: modem, also called baseband, firmware is usually a well guarded, secret shrouded blob. If it's on the same silicon as the ARM core running the OS the question is also if it can access the RAM of it. But that's a general problem.08:28
pp_often full of holes too, so no need to add real backdoors, just introduce subtle bugs08:30
AL13N_workheh08:33
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AL13N_worktbr: how does blackphone handle all that?08:33
SK_worknot sure it does08:33
AL13N_workthey said they would get a real secure phone with all software opensource (was it all talk?)08:33
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tbrAL13N_work: they won't tell you that, but I bet they don't. They have to trust their vendor.08:33
AL13N_worktbr: after what they claimed, it was all talk after all?08:34
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SK_workhttp://qz.com/181977/hidden-risk-in-blackphones-secure-communications/08:34
SK_workAL13N_work: ^08:34
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tbr"oops"08:35
tbrquick, everyone act shocked and surprised!08:36
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SK_work:D08:36
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pp_http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ !08:39
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AL13N_worktbr: SK_work: i kinda saw that one coming08:40
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SK_workpp_: yep, problem is: on which (modern) chip does this wonderful sw work ?08:41
tbrjust glue an USRP to your ARM-board and 3d-print a case.08:41
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Sail0rOk, I am here again with my tapatalk problem ,). It's running very good except of push notifications which it does not receive nor does it fire any notifications. Does anyone have this working? Or is it normal that it does not refresh the forums ?08:51
SK_workSail0r: don't know :(08:54
Sail0rmaybe i have got the wrong version or smth :-/. That's why I am searching for someone who has a working setup :x08:54
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Nicd-24 days uptime soon \o/09:27
AL13N_worker zijn mensen aan het denken op een oneplus te kopen en er sailfishos op te zetten09:28
Nicd-wrong window?09:28
AL13N_workno, wrong language09:28
AL13N_workthere are people who are thinking of buying the oneplus cyanogenmod phone and put sailfishos on it09:28
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Anz_AL13N_work: those skeptics who think Jolla Oy loves their OS more than the phone as a whole?10:13
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Venemo_my jolla has managed to receive an email while both wifi and mobile data were turned off10:17
Venemo_how is this possible???10:17
Nicd-magic10:17
artemmaif it was really-really important email..10:17
AL13N_workAnz_: well, they believe that the hardware you get for that price is better10:17
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* artemma seemed to notice same a couple of times (was worried about roaming costs), but after closer look it seemed that emails actually came during wifi action10:18
artemmaVenemo_: could the wifi connection have happened?10:18
artemmagit status10:18
artemmasorry, wrong window :)10:18
AL13N_workhmm, if wifi is disabled it might not be completely disabled sometimes?10:18
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artemmaif you disable whole WiFi switchm it should be disabled I think..10:19
artemmabut if you just rejected some wifi offer dialog, maybe it can connect to another network or later10:20
tadzikmy mini-rant on media player: https://together.jolla.com/question/52858/media-player-shuffle-inconsistency/10:20
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Temegood rant10:21
Anz_Venemo_: or a very delayed notification that was fetched while connected to WiFi earlier :/10:21
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simbrownHow many unexpected shut downs per day is it normal to endure before getting in contact with care@10:28
tadzik010:28
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simbrownthat's a very low number10:34
simbrownI'm averaging about five and it's becoming tiresome.10:34
simbrownAt least the device boots quickly10:34
Nicd-5 is a huge number10:35
Nicd-talk to care10:35
Teme5 is what i've had since getting the device :(10:36
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simbrownI've had two so far today and it's not even lunch time yet10:36
Nicd-well you know what to do10:37
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Temewell nobody is going to blame you for contacting care then10:37
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simbrownThanks, I'll talk to care10:38
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tbrsimbrown: out of curiosity, are you often in low coverage areas with only GSM? That includes basements, elevators, etc.10:55
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Venemo_Anz_: nope11:19
Venemo_I would guess it was connected to mobile data even though it said it wasn't11:19
Venemo_because there were no known wifis nearby11:20
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Venemo_yeah11:22
Venemo_it's connected to mobile data right now, even though it's disabled in settings11:22
Venemo_seems like a serious regression11:22
Temethat doesn't seem very desirable11:23
Temeand airplane mode?11:23
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tbrVenemo_: a similar bug has been fixed already at least once. lpotter will be thrilled. :-/11:27
Sail0rwhen I try to setup the ubuntu chroot for hadk it ends with "unknown ubuntu version"11:29
Sail0rwhat's the trick to get it running?11:30
tbrSail0r: #sailfishos-porters11:30
simbrowntbr: My home has marginal 3G and 4G so it does a lot of switching about. The same on my train ride to work.11:32
AL13N_workis #sailfishos-porters for getting sailfishos on android device?11:32
AL13N_workhome only has marginal 3G11:32
AL13N_work:-(11:32
AL13N_workmy work has ok 4G11:32
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tbrsimbrown: ok, that sounds like a possible scenario. If you don't mind to try two things, I could offer some help.11:33
simbrowntbr: happy to try though won't be able to for long as care have asked me to return the device11:34
tbrsimbrown: clean the contact surfaces on both the battery and the phone. either use special contact cleaner or e.g. a hard rubber eraser or _gently_ a sharp metal edge11:35
tbrand when reinserting the battery, slightly pad the opposite side with paper to increase contact pressuer11:35
tbrpressure...11:36
tbrthe cleaning procedure has helped two people already (the paper padding was insufficient for them)11:37
tbralso make sure not to touch the contact surfaces with your fingers.11:37
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AL13N_workhoho, excess flood11:41
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simbrowntbr: I've fitted the paper padding, I'll clean the contacts tonight. Thanks11:42
Venemo_tbr: I guess it has something to do with the new network stack11:43
tbrVenemo_: "connman"11:43
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Venemo_tbr: I dunno, but it'd be nice to finally fix it. the network stack has a few more of these "features" that annoy the crap out of me every day11:56
Venemo_but this one could potentially cause financial issues too12:00
Venemo_so it's very serious...12:00
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mekluconnman seems a bit iffy on the desktop too12:02
mekluI don't especially love their DNS proxy :/12:02
tbrVenemo_: if you find a way to reproduce it, that would increase the likelyhood of a fix12:02
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Venemo_tbr: I use my jolla every day. I enable / disable both wifi and mobile data multiple times every day. something must have gone wrong at one occasion12:36
SK_workVenemo_: weired, my network stack is rather stable these days12:42
SK_workexcept some data disconnect, everything work as expected: wifi is connected at home, data outside etc.12:42
Venemo_well, it has a few weird bugs12:42
Venemo_tbr, SK_work: which Jollan should I ping about this? are there any logs I can provide, or something?12:43
SK_workVenemo_: I know lpotter (in Australia)12:43
tbrVenemo_: if you want to help, enable connman logging (see the connman hotfix TJC item _comments_)12:43
SK_workand you need connman logs, but don't know where to get them12:43
tbrSK_work / Venemo_ - note that I already did hilight him in the very beginning :)12:43
Venemo_sure12:43
Venemo_okay12:44
tbrVenemo_: also you must enable persistent systemd journal12:44
tbrthe connman logging is in two packages somethingsomething-trace and something else12:44
tbryou just install them12:44
tadzikwow, Jolla in Kazakhstan has an actual Jolla Store12:48
Teme..12:48
TemeJolla <anywhere> should have access to the actual Jolla Store, right? :D12:49
tadzikbig deal, it's the first time of any actual physical presence of Jolla anywhere :D12:49
Temewoah woah woah12:49
meklu:O12:49
tadzikhttp://www.jollatides.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/jolla_showroom_almaty_kazakhstan.jpg12:49
mekluthat's pretty cool12:49
Temeyou mean they have a _store_ for _physical_ stuff with just Jolla stuff12:49
Temeeven Finland doesn't have that :P12:49
tadzikwell, the website says "showroom" almost interchangeably with "store", so I'm not so sure no12:50
Tememaybe you need to order online since they don't deal with payments12:50
Temebut that's still cool12:50
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tadzikyeah, it's real: http://www.jollatides.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/jolla_showroom_almaty_kazakhstan.jpg12:53
tadzikargh12:53
tadzikhttps://twitter.com/TimMcDigital/status/495897658608078849 sorry12:53
tadziknot the worst thing to mispaste :)12:53
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Temehttps://twitter.com/jubbing/status/495898875895758848 :D12:56
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Hartziwhat :D13:00
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eyea_UKJolla )0!1@ joh13:02
eyea_UKhow is everyone?13:02
eyea_UKI got mame working in the jolla13:02
eyea_UKmame4droid13:03
eyea_UKsweet13:03
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Nicd-eyea_UK: why do you always start with 0!1@ ?13:24
Nicd-)0!1@ I mean13:24
eyea_UKits jolla13:25
eyea_UK)0!1@13:25
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Nicd-ah13:25
coderusIf you have not enough votes for your wishes in Mitakuuluu, you can donate to author and send link to issue at github.13:31
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AJAX555yay crashing marathon started \o/14:25
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fennekkicoderus: so bribery works best, eh? :D15:02
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Nicd-oh man this looks nice: http://www.shapeways.com/model/2145085/the-other-side-blocks-for-jolla-phone.html?materialId=9315:07
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simbrownNicd-: curse you for showing me that! My resistance is weak15:17
Nicd-mine is too, but my wallet is even weaker :(15:17
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simbrownThankfully my Jolla is going back to Finland tomorrow so my Wallet will be safe for a while.15:19
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coderusfennekki: wut?15:38
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mekluerror: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:18:53
meklu*bunch of debug symbol files*18:53
mekluhrmmph18:53
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mekluo_O18:55
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mekluthat wasn't a very descriptive error18:55
mekluadded /usr/libexec/%{name} to my YAML file list18:55
mekluwerks18:55
javispedroInstalled = copied to the destination dir (e.g. by your make install, etc.)18:56
javispedroUnpackaged = not list in the .spec %files section18:56
javispedrothat's the way I parse it at least =)18:56
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mekluhmm, apparently %{_libexecdir} is a better idea19:02
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tbrtizen.org is down, conspiracy theories - GO!20:56
tbrit would be the right time of the year, and the right setting...20:56
bef0rdworks here20:57
bef0rdhttp://www.isitdownrightnow.com/tizen.org.html20:57
tbrbef0rd: yeah, just started working again. was spewing all sorts of HTTP 5xx errors before that21:00
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matrixxNicd-: I ordereded one a few days ago, was sold on the first sight :)21:18
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