coderus | how many? 5-10 ? | 00:01 |
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coderus | is it too much? | 00:01 |
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coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/54393/please-release-gstreamer-10/ | 00:39 |
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Umeaboy | Are there any made plans to make the upcoming Jolla-phone water/dirt-resistant? | 00:42 |
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Naranek | I would be very surprised if there were | 05:57 |
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pp_ | ooooh, optima service finally got my phone :D | 06:40 |
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pp_ | posti group </3 | 06:40 |
pp_ | post office on wednesday morning, I suppose 3rd business day is within limits of "normal" :) | 06:41 |
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faenil | m00 | 09:30 |
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sqozz | has someone an idea, where i can find logs on my jolla regarding the random reboots i have? | 09:44 |
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Nicd- | there is one in /var/log | 09:45 |
Nicd- | systembootlog or something like that | 09:46 |
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sqozz | thank you :) | 10:25 |
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faenil | tbr: mmm found a few corrupted files...this is not good :D | 13:11 |
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tbr | faenil: yeah, better check integrity of everything important | 13:19 |
faenil | eh :/ | 13:20 |
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faenil | VDVsx: ping | 13:38 |
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VDVsx | faenil, pong | 13:43 |
faenil | VDVsx: my phone has stopped updating email since a few weeks | 13:43 |
faenil | what can I check | 13:43 |
VDVsx | faenil, schedule in accts is fine ? | 13:43 |
faenil | yeah, well it says "Automatically" in google acc | 13:44 |
VDVsx | faenil, that's no email schedule | 13:45 |
VDVsx | there's no auto for email in google acct, that's for other services, check the schedule under "email" section | 13:45 |
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faenil | VDVsx: where is it supposed to be? I remember that you had a choice between a few intervals | 13:47 |
faenil | but I can't find that anymore | 13:47 |
faenil | should that be in the Google account page, above contacts? | 13:47 |
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VDVsx | faenil, yes, in same page, there's "Email details", "Email sync" and then "Content sync" | 13:50 |
VDVsx | unless you are using some older version | 13:50 |
faenil | VDVsx: I'm using the latest public update.. | 13:50 |
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VDVsx | so is like that | 13:50 |
faenil | I have | 13:51 |
faenil | - Calendars | 13:51 |
faenil | 13:51 | |
faenil | - Contacts | 13:51 |
faenil | -- Sync: TwoWay | 13:51 |
faenil | that's what I have | 13:51 |
VDVsx | nothing after that ? | 13:51 |
faenil | Content Sync | 13:51 |
faenil | - Sync content: Automatically | 13:51 |
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faenil | Other services | 13:51 |
faenil | - Instant Messaging | 13:51 |
faenil | EOF | 13:51 |
VDVsx | faenil, if you go to settings->apps->email is the schedule there ? | 13:52 |
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faenil | no, only download img auto | 13:52 |
VDVsx | faenil, well, so either you are running some half-updated versions or settings went bonkers | 13:53 |
faenil | and we know that much :D | 13:54 |
tbr | try readding the account? | 13:54 |
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VDVsx | faenil, you can check what is under: /home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/ | 13:54 |
faenil | tbr: I think I have already after updating to up8 | 13:54 |
VDVsx | you should have one syncemail-xxx.xml | 13:55 |
VDVsx | there | 13:55 |
VDVsx | one per acct | 13:55 |
faenil | I have it | 13:55 |
VDVsx | faenil, pastebin the content somewhere then | 13:56 |
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faenil | sec | 13:57 |
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Nicd- | errrr. if I go to settings -> apps -> email, should there be some schedule? | 13:59 |
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Nicd- | because I only have "download images automtically" and "default account for sending" | 14:00 |
faenil | VDVsx: it's a 0bytes file | 14:01 |
faenil | (how cool) | 14:01 |
VDVsx | Nicd-, no, that's per acct now | 14:01 |
Nicd- | ok, good | 14:01 |
VDVsx | faenil, so that's the culpit then | 14:01 |
faenil | eh :P | 14:02 |
VDVsx | faenil, have you tried to save the acct, IIRC these profiles are regenerated | 14:02 |
faenil | Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [27759]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::load:152 - Failed to load profile: "syncemail-7" Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [27759]: [W] AccountSyncManager::updateSyncProfile:430 - Invalid profile name: "syncemail-7" | 14:04 |
faenil | also | 14:05 |
faenil | Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [981]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::parseFile:1096 - Failed to parse profile XML: "/home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/twitter.Posts-4.xml" Aug 25 16:03:16 Jolla [981]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::load:152 - Failed to load profile: "twitter.Posts-4" | 14:05 |
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faenil | twitter-posts is 0bytes as well | 14:06 |
faenil | VDVsx: this is what happens when I change an option and Save | 14:10 |
faenil | http://pastebin.com/gx7KsKwJ | 14:10 |
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VDVsx | humm, they should be recreated, but I don't remember in which version that was implemented probably not yet there | 14:11 |
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faenil | VDVsx: ok, so should I recreate accounts and pretend nothing happened? | 14:15 |
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VDVsx | faenil, you can try to remove the xml files and then save the acct again, if that leads to same error as you pasted, only way is recreate accts | 14:17 |
faenil | okay, thanks | 14:17 |
faenil | VDVsx: do you already know why it gets truncated, or is "recreate the files" just a way to work it around? | 14:18 |
VDVsx | faenil, this is known if a crash happens while those files are be written | 14:18 |
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VDVsx | it should recreate the files in case of failure or if user removes them | 14:19 |
faenil | ok | 14:19 |
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faenil | so there's no known "bug", just something that can happen if something at filesystem level goes wrng | 14:20 |
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VDVsx | faenil, yes, but I can't remember when the recreation was implemented, gtg now | 14:21 |
faenil | ok | 14:21 |
faenil | have a nice evenin! | 14:21 |
VDVsx | thx, same :) | 14:22 |
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Sidde | is there any good way to exclude folder from being indexed on a sdcard. I don't want my audiobooks to show up in the media application | 15:56 |
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Sidde | seems like creating the backup.metadata-fil was a "good enough" solution | 16:01 |
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Shinryuu | evenings | 18:10 |
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louisdk | I have a problem with my Jolla phone. The viberation has suddenly become very weak. | 18:32 |
Stskeeps | contact care | 18:33 |
cb400f | louisdk: sounds like a feature, now you should just turn it off completely ;-) | 18:33 |
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tadzik | :P | 18:42 |
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Sail0r | louisdk: had the same one week it completly stopped working but care was fast and replaced it :) | 18:43 |
tadzik | Stskeeps: how does contacting care work if you're in the US? | 18:43 |
Stskeeps | tadzik: welllll. | 18:43 |
tadzik | Stskeeps: a friend of mine was looking to sell his first one, but he didn't because the vibration went down | 18:43 |
Stskeeps | in practice we're not selling in the US and warranty is within the EU, at a guess.. | 18:44 |
louisdk | cb400f: My Jolla also have a little white dot in the lower center and some yellow inserts in the right side. | 18:44 |
louisdk | Sail0r, you mean like a week? | 18:44 |
Sail0r | it took a week from getting weak to not function at all | 18:44 |
Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/42761/warranty-repair-reasons-experiences-and-cost/ | 18:46 |
tadzik | Stskeeps: what if you driv^Wfly to the us to report it to care? | 18:47 |
tadzik | erm | 18:47 |
tadzik | to the EU | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | that's easier, i'd presme | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | as it can be picked up within the EU | 18:47 |
tadzik | okay | 18:47 |
tadzik | and then it gets replaced? | 18:47 |
Sail0r | or repaired | 18:47 |
tadzik | right | 18:48 |
louisdk | Sail0r, i mean a week for repair? | 18:49 |
Sail0r | for me it took 5 days from pickup to return | 18:49 |
Sail0r | (germany) | 18:49 |
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louisdk | Sail0r, ahh okay :) | 18:51 |
Sail0r | send it on monday and got it back on friday | 18:52 |
Sail0r | so about 5 days without jolla which felt like weeks ;) | 18:52 |
* cb400f imagines the horror ;-) | 18:52 | |
Sail0r | I was not use to charge a phone once a day and my samsung went off everyday ^^ | 18:52 |
Sail0r | *used | 18:52 |
pp_ | lessee when I get mine back, sent it on wed and they just started looking at it today :P | 18:53 |
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Sail0r | I got a whole new phone. I think mine was too fucked up ^^ | 18:54 |
* louisdk finds it sad that Jolla did on produce their first device with a hardware design parter like Oppo. | 18:54 | |
louisdk | *not | 18:54 |
pp_ | I'm suspecting they'll clean the battery connectors on mine and send it back | 18:54 |
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pp_ | :-) | 18:55 |
tadzik | :) | 18:55 |
Sail0r | Mine had frequent shutdowns, fall to blackscreen, vibration issues | 18:55 |
pp_ | (which is fair enough if it's the proper fix) | 18:55 |
tadzik | btw, is the notification glitch known anyway? | 18:55 |
Sail0r | which one? | 18:55 |
Sail0r | there are many at the moment i think | 18:55 |
tadzik | the fact that it sometimes stays semi-transparent and locks everything up until you realize that the notification screen is still there, but invisible? | 18:55 |
Sail0r | never noticed that | 18:56 |
pp_ | I'm not missing mine that much, my n9 backup is almost as good | 18:56 |
Sail0r | my galaxy s2 is horrible ^^ | 18:56 |
AL13N | my galaxy Y is alot worse | 18:57 |
Sail0r | and I learned again why I don't like android at all | 18:57 |
pp_ | (of course app/update situation is horrible and the usb door is breaking again) | 18:57 |
Sail0r | it's the most unintuitive system i ever had | 18:58 |
AL13N | yes | 18:58 |
rigo_ | N9 rulz | 18:59 |
AL13N | and the constant app updates that you cannot disable, making it slowlier than ever | 18:59 |
AL13N | rigo_: no, jolla rulez | 18:59 |
rigo_ | maybe, but jolla has to think about the next generation hardware IMHO | 19:01 |
Sail0r | Jolla would rule even more if basic functionality would finally work ;) | 19:01 |
rigo_ | because the hardware makes the money, more than the software IMHO | 19:01 |
AL13N | what's basic functionality? calling? sms? | 19:01 |
rigo_ | Sail0r: no hiccup for me so far | 19:01 |
Sail0r | for a smartphone? | 19:02 |
Sail0r | mark more then one email at a time as read | 19:02 |
Sail0r | imap folder sorting in right order | 19:02 |
AL13N | i don't use the mail app, tbh | 19:02 |
Sail0r | caldav and carddav support | 19:02 |
louisdk | How critical shall the LCD errors be before Jolla will fix it? I have a light dot in the bottom of the screen and some yellow inserts at the right side. | 19:02 |
rigo_ | uuhh oohhh, email client and linux is a very sad story at the moment | 19:02 |
Sail0r | louisdk: contact care? | 19:02 |
Stskeeps | louisdk: look at typical standards for dead pixels, but yeah, contact care | 19:03 |
Stskeeps | this isn't a official channel, care are the ones helping with care things :) | 19:03 |
AL13N | rigo_: i'm still using Kmail atm, since there is no better one, but that one also has it's issues | 19:03 |
louisdk | Sail0r, I'm trying to capture the dead pixels with a sg2 camera. It's not that easy :) | 19:03 |
Sail0r | hehe | 19:04 |
Sail0r | care will think "w0000t the whole screen is broken" ;) | 19:04 |
Sail0r | a good advisor which I read about dead pixels sometime ago "Make a screenshot ;)" | 19:04 |
louisdk | Sail0r, lol :p | 19:04 |
* cb400f thinks care will wonder why louisdk used his Jolla for a hammer >:-) | 19:05 | |
rigo_ | AL13N: i'm kde user since version 1.1 and after 3.5, the first usable version of kontact was 4.11.2 | 19:05 |
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* louisdk used this Jolla while building a Sailboat .... *NOT* :P | 19:05 | |
AL13N | rigo_: i'm a kde user too, but seriously PIM needs some love, and it's not even ported to KF5 yet | 19:06 |
rigo_ | AL13N: it regularly consumed all resources on my quadcore 8GB ram machine | 19:06 |
AL13N | no doubt about it | 19:06 |
AL13N | rigo_: i had to turn off indexing | 19:06 |
rigo_ | try it now, since change to baloo, it works better, but semantic capabilities are gone | 19:06 |
AL13N | my hexcore 16GB machine too | 19:06 |
* louisdk feels kinda homeless in the land of Desktop Environments for Linux. | 19:07 | |
AL13N | oh | 19:07 |
AL13N | so that's baloo | 19:07 |
* rigo_ thinks the new KDE 4.11 is usable again | 19:07 | |
AL13N | i've seen it ported to KF5 | 19:07 |
AL13N | the kmail part is usable, but... well it still has it's issues | 19:07 |
cb400f | 95% of kde apps are not ported yet... and kdepim is prolly one of the bigger modules | 19:08 |
AL13N | i have a few imaps at work and i often have to set offline and back online again | 19:08 |
AL13N | cb400f: indeed | 19:08 |
rigo_ | yep, replaced virtuoso, the virtuose in useless resource consumption | 19:08 |
AL13N | yes | 19:08 |
AL13N | that was good news for me when i heard that | 19:08 |
* rigo_ has done semantic web since 1999, but the KDE use was not the right thing to do, killed the nice idea of semantics on desktops and is now gone again for years to come | 19:09 | |
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louisdk | If I do a backup on my Jolla device which settings ain't gonna be saved? | 19:24 |
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Shinryuu | does anyone happen to know any macros that are compatible with jolla? | 19:47 |
Shinryuu | I wonder if 'universal' ones are ok to go with | 19:47 |
AL13N | .spec file macros? | 19:55 |
AL13N | or? | 19:55 |
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Shinryuu | some lens stuff for camera | 19:56 |
Shinryuu | I tried to use lens from a dvd drive but I have to mount it somehow | 19:56 |
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AL13N | oic | 20:09 |
AL13N | Shinryuu: like that magnetic lenses TOH thing? | 20:09 |
kimmoli | i use easy-macro. | 20:09 |
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Shinryuu | AL13N: Well it doesn't matter if it's a clip one. I think flypig has some cases optimized for lens mounts but they are still in BETA and he's willing to fix the desing anytime soon iirc. | 20:15 |
Shinryuu | kimmoli: thanks for the info | 20:16 |
Shinryuu | also that might work for me because I'm not a fan of flash at all | 20:19 |
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eyea_UK_ | jolla )0!1@ yoh | 20:29 |
eyea_UK_ | how is everyone! | 20:29 |
eyea_UK_ | ? | 20:29 |
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keithzg | I hope flypig gets those designs nailed down soon. I'd really love both a lens mount (which would be very fun to play around with) and a lego case. | 22:26 |
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keithzg | Although in terms of camera bits, I actually really miss the HDR from the N900 days. It had a kindof unique overdone-but-lo-fi quality that I wouldn't wish on people as a default, but was really neat for taking more artistic photos. The best photo my parents have of the view from their apartment in Lyon is actually one I took with my N900 that way. | 22:29 |
keithzg | Are there any alternate camera apps or such for SailfishOS yet? I really do miss the crazy, admittedly often pointless things that became possible with the N900's camera. | 22:30 |
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lpotter | keithzg: there is one from the openrepos thing | 23:00 |
pahartik | keithzg: I still carry "Nokia N900" along every day, for camera and tracking purposes | 23:00 |
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FireFly | The N900's camera is really good | 23:30 |
FireFly | Or at least, that's what I recall.. | 23:30 |
keithzg | It's certainly the best 5 megapixel camera out there. | 23:31 |
FireFly | The photos I take with the jolla seem to come out more blurry, but I'm not sure if it's due to the camera hardware (or software), or the form factor | 23:32 |
keithzg | I remember pitting it against a mid-range Lumia when I was working for a phone company a few years back. The Windows phone was laughably inferior despite both being 5mp and the Lumia being by that point being literally years newer. | 23:32 |
keithzg | Well, yeah, the camera button on the N900 helps a lot with movement while pressing. | 23:33 |
FireFly | Yeah | 23:33 |
* keithzg misses physical camera buttons | 23:33 | |
keithzg | And the lens cover on the N900! Oh, what we've given up in the name of style and slimness. | 23:33 |
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