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mkpaa_Has anyone succesfully used 64 gb sdxc card in Jolla? Seen a lot of discussion, but no simple answers.. :)00:23
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keithzgmkpaa_: Me! Although, not so successful lately :(00:48
keithzgAlthough that mostly seems to come down to tracker being . . . yaknow . . . how it is ;)00:49
keithzgBasically, the only issue is that by default SDXC cards come formatted as exFAT (this is the problem with industry "standards", you end up with proprietary formats being mandated...). So just pop the card in a reader in a desktop/laptop, and format it with nearly any other filesystem you can think of.00:52
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keithzgNow if only tracker would deign to index the files on the card :(00:57
keithzg(Used to, but has been failing for the past month or so for me, alas, which combined with the skipping bug on low sample rates mean I can't really use my Jolla for music *or* for podcasts at the moment.)00:58
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Shihuasometimes06:32
Nicd-people make a war~06:32
Shihuamy jolla will have errors in linking.06:32
Nicd-don't know what it's for06:33
Shihuawhen will have update this month?06:33
phliximkpaa_: i'am using too 64gb sdxc06:34
tbrShihua: as announced before the end of the month06:34
ShihuaWhat about this update?06:35
Shihuawhat surprise it will bring?06:36
phlixiwouldnt be a surprise ...06:37
ShihuaIn HK .the input method is not good.some words can not spell.06:38
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Shihuawhether  jolla will salve this in this update or not?06:40
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tbrthey announced some of the improvements06:41
Shihuawhere?the tjc?06:42
stephgyep06:47
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WntI have used a 64 GB microSD card on my device since the beginning with the Btrfs filesystem. After they fixed the automount script few updates ago everything has been working well08:08
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Nc_https://www.fcc.gov/live - in case anyone are into Net Neutrality12:48
Nicd-Wnt: does it automount btrfs now?12:49
stephgOMG update!13:00
stephg(to paint ;) )13:00
Nicd-curse you!13:01
stephg:D13:01
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Sceltupdateupdateupdate13:04
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tadzik༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ JOLLA PLS13:05
stephgNicd-: I think it should (automount), it does ext413:06
mekluhttp://mek.lu/marvelous13:06
mekluwarning: huge SVG13:06
Nicd-could you make it a bit bigger?13:07
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mekluof course not13:15
mekluthat would threaten the stability of this realm13:15
meklutoo much gib means too much stuff to handle13:16
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crazy_impheyho13:26
crazy_impare there any plans regarding https://together.jolla.com/question/13497/option-to-disable-input-suggestion/ ?13:26
stephgcrazy_imp: would uninstalling the dictionary help?13:30
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crazy_impstephg: just found this https://together.jolla.com/question/41627/feature-request-option-to-turn-onoff-keyboard-word-suggestions/#post-id-41630 , still have to try13:33
crazy_impbut it sounds way better then deleting the dicts13:33
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pdanek1Hello! When I turn off sounds, but I plug in my headphones, the ringtone is not muted with headphones. Is it normal behavior? Why is it please?13:34
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stephgcrazy_imp: cool yeah. Only reason I say is that xt9 isn't on mako (iirc) hence no prediction support. Uninstall it on a jolla and it may do the same thing13:35
Teme2pdanek1: it would seem like it's intended13:35
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Temei mean the point of silenced sounds is not to cause disturbance around you13:36
Temebut i can see cases where there are speakers connected to the headphone-jack for playing music or whatever and then you don't want to hear a ringtone either (if you are not currenly playing audio)13:37
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pdanek1Teme: exactly, I use my phone as primary music player and I do not want the ringtone to play.13:55
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pdanek1Teme: Or have you ever fall a sleep with music in headphones? I know so many people who did, so in the middle of night, I also turn of ringtone to not be disturbed.13:57
pdanek1It's very strange function as for me.13:57
Temepdanek1: i guess you can use a profile with ringtone volume set to 0 as a workaround?13:57
pdanek1Maybe I'm minority.13:57
Temei mean i've used phones (symbian) where there was not a "silence sounds" functionality13:58
Temeinstead you activated a profile with all volumes at 0 / no sound selected13:58
pdanek1Teme: how do you make a profile in Jolla? there is just one13:59
Temego to gallery and you should see the "ambience"-category13:59
pdanek1each ambience has their own sound settings?14:00
Temethere you can favorite a couple different ones and they'll appear in the right-pulley menu of application screen14:00
Temepdanek1: yes14:00
pdanek1that's extremely confusing isn't it?14:00
pdanek1:D14:00
Temei say ambience = profile :)14:00
pdanek1Jolla is really unlike.14:00
pdanek1Sometimes in bad way. :D14:00
Temewhy is it confusing?14:00
pdanek1Profile is something everyone knows.14:00
Temedoesn't it make sense to set an ambience with a stormy picture to super high volumes and one with a camera or something with softer settings? :)14:01
pdanek1Not to me.14:01
Temeoh14:01
pdanek1I sleep with storm.14:01
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stephgpdanek1: ambiences can (but don't have to) have audio with them, if they aren't specified it uses the defaults14:01
Temewell in general i don't think people find it "extremely confusing"14:01
pdanek1Yea, maybe I'm different.14:02
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pdanek1But even the program: People14:02
pdanek1I was like: why the hell is it called People and not Contacts, why reinventing the wheel. :D14:02
Teme.. that one is a different story ;)14:02
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Temeanyway, do you think you can find a working solution for your music player with the ambiences? :)14:03
Temei think what you wanna achieve can be done with a couple different ambiences14:04
pdanek1Can I copy same ambience to have it twice?14:04
Temehmm..14:04
pdanek1I do not want to change background and colors.14:04
pdanek1I only want to change sound settings.14:04
Temei guess you could copy the photo it's based on, rename it and create a new ambience?14:04
pdanek1I will try that out, thanks!.14:05
pdanek1So when I switch to some ambience, change sound/ringtone settings, they will be changed and saved into the ambience?14:06
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Temei am not sure about that14:06
Temebut at least you can go to gallery, ambiences and change the settings there14:06
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Temeand just noticed i can't find the photos the ambiences are based on as plain photos on the device14:07
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Temecould be that i have erased them14:07
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r0kk3rzi dont think they were ever present in the gallery14:28
r0kk3rzonly under ambiances14:28
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stephgTeme: you mean like Snow White and whatnot? they'll be distributed in the RPM and now in the user's Pictures folder14:32
stephgs/now/not/14:32
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Temei mean Camera, Moonship, Baby flower that were "preinstalled" without a toh14:33
Temeanyways, could be that the pics have been there but i've simply erased them as unnecessary14:34
Temealthough what r0kk3rz said might argue against that..14:34
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stephgTeme oh no, they'll also be in an RPM14:36
stephgand somewhere that tracker's not looking for them14:36
stephgthe package is jolla-preload-ambiences14:37
Temeahaa14:37
Temewell, i don't really care but pdanek1 might be interested since he wants to create duplicate ambiences of the stock ones, just with different sound settings14:38
stephgyup14:38
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fluxI suppose no one's written an app employing those cardboard 3d glasses?16:14
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Stskeepsno, but it's on my 'interest' list16:15
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kimmoliyways, could be that the pics have been there but i've simply erased them as unnecessary16:25
kimmoliäh16:25
kimmolidamn trackball16:25
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Teme:D16:43
Temebetter disable right-click paste :P16:43
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kimmolithere is few diptohs available now ... http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1439418#post143941816:59
kimmolijust if you like retro16:59
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Temethat's pretty cool17:01
Temetoo bad personally i rarely toggle any of those settings so not gonna get one17:01
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kimmoliit's freely configurable to do anything (almost) you can make from console...17:06
pXdi just discovered that the audio-output of android-applications (e.g. spotify) is distorted/overdriven; especially on the lower frequency-range. the distortion doesn't seem to be related to the volume level. is that a known issue and are there any fixes for it?17:07
pXdthe audio-output of native jolla-applications is fine, btw - no distortion at any volume. so i don't think that it's a hardware issue with/of my device.17:09
Temekimmoli: oh, even cooler17:10
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r0kk3rzpXd: sounds like a bug, check TJC and submit a report17:14
pXdthe distortion level is not that huge, btw - but audible. especially on tracks with a low freq. bass.17:14
pXdah, yeah. thx for the advice.17:15
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pXdhttps://together.jolla.com/question/39302/while-using-android-music-players-there-is-alot-of-distortion/ - seems as other ppl noticed it before.17:19
r0kk3rzalways a good idea to check TJC for these things17:22
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pXdyep. too bad that there doesn't seem to be a solution, yet.17:24
r0kk3rzvote it up, bump it with a comment17:26
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Sail0rfor changing the volume there is pacmd around17:30
Sail0rwhich should control pulseaudio volumes on jolla17:30
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Sail0rnot tested it yet17:30
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Sail0rsry wrong channel :x17:31
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krnlynghi, i have an issue with the media player, if i play the first track of an album/tracklist the media player stops after the track is played (does not go to the next track) is this a known issue?17:31
krnlyngit works well for other track but it seems it stops always after the first track of a list (even if it is played as nth track for example with random enabled)17:32
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cb400ftracklist as in playlist? .. my playlists continue on after the first track17:36
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pXdhmm, lowering the volume within spotify (via the volume-slider of the app) seems to fix the problem.18:19
pXdi can live with that ;)18:20
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krnlyngcb400f: playlist yep18:55
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cb400fkrnlyng: are your files mp3? ... I seem to remember a similar gstreamer bug on my linux distro, where it would stop playing, but only with some specific format, can't remember which.. maybe ogg vorbis?19:33
cb400fthat was probably some years ago though19:33
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krnlyngcb400f: all mp3's, whats so strange about this is that it happens only with the first track and not others19:40
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