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Scelthttp://lifehacker.com/hundreds-of-dropbox-passwords-leaked-change-yours-now-164598253307:13
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mekluhttps://blog.dropbox.com/2014/10/dropbox-wasnt-hacked/07:24
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Scelt"Dropbox wasn’t hacked. NSA approves." :D07:25
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coderus_inte_: while it brings enough income i have enough time to work on it :)08:33
_inte_:) Good to hear :)08:33
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r0kk3rzcoderus: have you thought about using bountysource?08:34
r0kk3rzi imagine the bounty for the cpu bug might have been fairly decent, since a lot of people cared about it08:35
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coderusr0kk3rz: bountysource for fixing bugs? :D08:38
r0kk3rzits a way for people to pledge money to getting bugs fixed and features implemented08:38
r0kk3rzwhich encourages other people to join in development08:39
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r0kk3rzinterfaces with github and picks up things in the issues tracker08:41
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coderusr0kk3rz: features yes, already doing this08:43
coderusbut bugs.. :D08:43
r0kk3rzyeah08:44
r0kk3rzyou can also do your fundraising thing you're doing for the n9 through it08:44
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coderusactually there are no more whatsapp developers08:45
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coderuseveryone who can help with protocol things already doing this08:45
coderusand we're sharing our investigations08:46
r0kk3rzfair enough08:46
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coderuswell, i can create $100 bountysource for proper emoji support08:47
coderusas it's not related to mitakuuluu/whatsapp08:47
coderusand can be used for any other applications08:47
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Morpog_Jollabooooring11:39
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Sail0rsame here11:42
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Nicd-hm, got stuck looking at old photos: https://plus.google.com/u/1/events/gallery/ce9avq996iah78clj5g3jbs8jms?sort=1 :)12:27
Nicd-damn I remember last fall, the anxious waiting and the constant refreshing of @JollaHQ twitter account for anything new12:28
ggabrielcool times12:29
ggabrielthat's why another device would be cool :)12:29
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ggabrielalways reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTts-iGixU12:30
* ruskie wants a jolla tablet12:31
phlixiruskie: tried nexus 7?12:32
ruskieI'd prefer a jolla device12:32
phlixibetter than nothing?12:32
ruskiegot a tab2 10.1 so not really planing another crapdroid tablet12:33
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chem|struskie: I'd love to get sfos on my tab2 but samsung was a real bitch when choosing h/w13:03
ruskieI'd like to see what can be done to improve a tablets usability... not just pop the same UI/UX on a tablet13:04
chem|struskie: like?13:05
ruskiethat's what I'd like to see13:06
chem|stsomething like a completely sync experience would be cool13:06
ruskieI was impressed with what can be done with a phone when you think about it... the interface for me is so natural that I have issues trying to help people on other devices13:06
ruskiewould like to see some things improved certainly... i.e. some places where pulley menus would make a bit more sense13:07
SK_workruskie: http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.fi/2014/10/multi-touch-and-bigger-screens.html13:07
chem|stI am unable to use an iPhone, I am unable to wrap my head around that 1 button for all actions13:07
tadzikmuch better with JP-1301 and 0 buttons for all actions :D13:09
tadzik(or that's how my telecom operator refers to Jolla Phone)13:10
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chem|stnever seen anyone calling it JP-1301 but googling it brings up Jolla...13:20
chem|stbtw is it Krait 200 or Krait 400?13:20
Stskeepzmsm8930aa or how was it13:21
chem|stor is it Snapdragon 400 with a Krait 200?13:21
chem|stah the latter13:21
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Nicd-chem|st: remove the battery and you'll see JP-1301 there :)13:22
tadzikso much for jPhone :)13:22
chem|stNicd-: ah...13:22
chem|stno I wont, I just believe you13:22
kimmoliuptime goes...13:22
kimmolii refuse to update... 53d13:23
chem|stkimmoli: uptime is irrelevant, the JP-1301 needs reboots from time to time to not being aged anymore13:23
kimmolithe aging battery contacts handle that13:24
tadziknot sure what reminds me of Borg more, the JP-1301 designation or the use of the word "irrelevant"13:24
Nicd-kimmoli: remember to record it with sailtime :)13:26
kimmoligrr13:26
kimmolinot installed there.13:26
Scelt*update*13:27
tadzikis this real life?13:28
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tadzikaww, sailfish can't connect to MSchapv2, or however you spell that13:33
Stskeepztogether* has a guide doesn't it13:34
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tadzikah, I'm not that desperate :)13:39
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svuorelaStskeepz: I her you come and visit my beautiful town soon ... :)13:41
Stskeepzsvuorela: i will indeed. twice!13:41
svuorelayay :)13:42
Stskeepzdriving it, and open source days13:42
svuorelayour name was what made me book a ticket for the upcoming fiasco called opensourcedays.13:43
* Morpog_PC wonders what the RC version they have atm 12, 13, 14, ?13:43
Scelt121 more likely :P13:44
Stskeepzif you don't mind, what is the problem people have with OSD? i've read some things around the place but i have been too much out of the danish OSS scene after moving to poland13:44
chem|sttadzik: huh? MSChapv2 should work...13:44
Stskeepzso i don't know what's going on13:44
svuorelaStskeepz: the new team (that kicked out the previous team) seems to just be not really up to the task. Having announced and cancelled dates a couple of times before, and this year they haven't done any marketing for the event yet.13:45
Stskeepzah.. well, i stay out of the politics, just giving a talk :P13:45
svuorelabut especially the problem seems to be a lack of marketing.13:46
svuorelaI only noticed purely by accident, haven't seen a CfP yet nor any actual notification about it happening.13:46
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Stskeepzmy only criteria about conferences is that if one person enjoyed the talk, it's been worth it..13:46
svuorelaI'll be there :)13:47
Stskeepzhttp://www.version2.dk/blog/drivingit-2014-glaed-dig-til-14-november-68911 is the other one i'm presenting in13:47
svuorelayeah. PTO makes great conferences. but I'm about to change jobs, and I don't think the first thing I should do in a new job is ask for a day off :)13:47
Stskeepzhehe13:47
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chem|sttadzik: connman is for some reason case-sensitive13:49
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tadzikoh?13:50
svuorelaStskeepz: do you have time for meeting up with random people, or do you have a fully booked schedule already?13:50
chem|sttadzik: https://together.jolla.com/question/55969/connman-fails-due-to-case-sensitive-settings/13:50
Stskeepzso, osd schedule, sec, lemme check my flights..13:50
svuorelaStskeepz: the osd schedule is TBA.13:51
chem|sttadzik: the manual has TTLS and ttls for example, but only ttls works13:51
Stskeepzsvuorela: says '13-20' though13:51
svuorelayeah.13:51
svuorelaand 3 talks13:51
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Stskeepzi'll probably take the shit-o-clock flight with arrival 7:35 and leave next day around 13, so probably yes13:52
chem|sttadzik: the workaround thread has MSCHAPV2 in the config, maybe try all upper-case13:52
chem|st"Phase2=MSCHAPV2"13:53
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Stskeepzminus a bit of time to buy all the stuff needed for a danish xmas in poland.13:54
Stskeepz:P13:54
kimmolibuttercookies?13:54
Stskeepzplenty of beer.13:54
kimmolii could use one of the cookie jars made of sheetmetal13:55
tadzikchem|st: oh, I'm not even trying, I don't need to connect to the wifi so much to be bothered to write configs manually :)13:57
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svuorelaStskeepz: but flæskesteg can't last that long :P13:59
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chem|sttadzik: hehe ok, the UI does not support enterprise networking13:59
tadzikright :)14:00
pdanekThis is amazing.14:01
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stephgStskeepz: does the new alleged new SSL vuln mean that u9 was about to ship? :P14:21
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stephgas always, more beer, and kind words of support are the solution14:24
clauI take it updating Qt isn't that easy.14:38
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shanttuFacebook notifications hasn't worked in 3 months and Twitter feed on event view stopped also a couple of weeks ago. Any idea what to do? Removed and re added accounts already.16:51
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-verne.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp17:36
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Morpog_PCshanttu, you could try to delete app access on facebook and twitter for the jolla18:05
c0ck4m0u53Evening. Im having trouble installing/ updating any apps from store. There is always the same message "Problem with store could not install/ update insert app name here". I have tried pkcon refresh as normal user.18:07
Morpog_PCLook at my Jolla, my Jolla is amazing. Give it a lick - mmmmh it tastes like raisins!18:07
Morpog_PCwidely based nonsens on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4fyhzS3UM18:08
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Morpog_PCc0ck4m0u53, try as root18:09
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TemeVc0ck4m0u53: I seem to have same problem18:14
TemeVSomeone preparing store for update?18:15
* TemeV is feeling hopeful18:15
r0kk3rzwell it is that time of the month18:15
c0ck4m0u53Morpog_PC: running it as root didnt help18:15
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c0ck4m0u53TemeV: fingers crossed then:D18:16
Morpog_PCwell, what did it say when it was running as root and didn't help?18:16
c0ck4m0u53yes, run it as root and the problem persists18:17
TemeVc0ck4m0u53: no, I'll just keep my thumbs up. That's the Finnish way :)18:17
r0kk3rzis taking its time for me18:18
r0kk3rzwe'll see if it breaks18:18
r0kk3rzyep, it breaks18:18
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r0kk3rzso its not just you c0ck4m0u5318:18
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TemeVI bet someone at Jolla just messes up the store to give people false hope of update :p18:19
c0ck4m0u53ok but thats just cruel18:20
r0kk3rzwell yeah there could be that18:20
r0kk3rzit could just be broke, not for false hope18:20
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r0kk3rzjust broke18:20
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r0kk3rznot sure what hours they put in in finland, but its a bit odd to be breaking stuff for a reason this late in the day18:21
c0ck4m0u53so it might be just a "normal" breakage with no hidden agenda:D18:22
Nicd-yeah, store seems to be broken18:23
TemeVit's 21:27, so normal people wouln't be working, but what I hear people at Jolla might have peculiar working times :)18:23
r0kk3rzwell the real question is when did it break18:24
r0kk3rzsure its broken now, but has it been like that for hours?18:24
c0ck4m0u53well I have noticed it about an hour ago18:24
r0kk3rzmaybe they try and schedule their outages to be late at night?18:25
shanttuMorpog_PC, thanks your tip worked great for twitter. Facebook account minutes on "Setting up account..." state. Hope setup is successful.18:25
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Morpog_PCsounds good18:26
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r0kk3rzstore wont even load now19:08
r0kk3rzits even more broken19:08
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clauchecking for sailfish updates is also dead19:23
TeguI guess it uses store. at least when I check for updates, it checks for app updates at the same time19:24
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phlixijust updated an app from the store19:25
phlixiworks fine for me19:25
tigeliwe are dealing with some issues with database replication19:26
TeguNow it loads for me but updating an app seems to take a while.. ah, okay19:26
tigelidb is now up & running again and store should work again19:26
tigelibut might be bit slow19:26
r0kk3rzcheers tigeli19:26
clauthanks for the info tigeli19:28
tigelinp19:28
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tigelistill fighting with it.. and some short breakages are expected19:30
r0kk3rzsounds fun for 11pm on a tuesday19:35
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Nicd-just went outside and BAM aurora borealis19:42
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tmynttinwhere?19:45
Nicd-tampere19:46
Shinryuuinteresting19:47
Shinryuuusually you don't see them that often in south19:47
tmynttincool19:48
r0kk3rzreally?19:52
r0kk3rzthe south of finland isnt very far south19:52
r0kk3rzlight pollution probably doesnt help though19:53
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Morpog_PCdoes anybody know where the folder and icon config for desktop is stored?19:55
Morpog_PCJust put an icon i a folder and the whole folder vanished....19:55
Morpog_PCin*19:55
Morpog_PCoh what the hell the folder was in a folder20:00
Morpog_PCthat shouldn't be possible at all20:00
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r0kk3rzits folders all the way down20:03
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Morpog_PC?20:05
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clauthe road to hell is paved with folders20:07
Morpog_PCaaah, lol20:07
Morpog_PCi shoulod have made a screenshot, damn :D20:08
r0kk3rzi wonder if theres some kind of limit20:09
r0kk3rzof folders in folders20:10
Morpog_PCyou cannot put folders in folders20:10
Morpog_PCi just triggered a bug20:10
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r0kk3rzoh20:11
clauI take it you talk about Sailfish folders in app screen20:11
Morpog_PCsure, lol20:11
clau:)20:11
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stephgcan you all please stop saying 'folders'20:15
stephg'directories' please!20:15
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Nicd-folders folders folders folders20:16
Nicd-FOLDERS20:16
clau:D20:16
Morpog_PCI'm not on filelevel  -> folders20:16
Nicd-fffffolders F O L D E R S folders20:16
r0kk3rzskeuomorphism is where its at yo20:16
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Nicd-hey clau did you see that folder I sent you20:16
stephgNicd- in Windows weenie shocker ;)20:16
Nicd-stephg: sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my folders folding20:17
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stephg:D20:17
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Turskithis discussion reminds me about VISKI20:21
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stephgI thought whisky got barred or banned or something, judging by the twitter of late from .fi :P20:26
Turski;)20:26
M4rtinKI actually also saw a nested folder once in the Jolla20:27
raa700Thou shalt not advertise hard liqours in finland20:27
M4rtinKbut it behaved in some strange way IIRC20:27
raa700I think our oversized public sector is running out of things to do so they fiddle around with all kinds of nonsense20:28
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Turskiraa700: +120:29
tigelinow store should work again (the installation too), please confirm :)20:30
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Morpog_PCnow open the gates, flood us, release the update!20:31
Morpog_PC:D20:31
\goahahahah20:31
raa700release the kraken20:31
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\gotbt20:31
tigeli:D20:32
* Morpog_PC installs random app20:37
tigeliif the promised sslv3 vulnerability gets releases today.. guess what happens with the update :D20:38
Morpog_PCworks20:38
Teguinstall the coin app for maximum randomness20:38
tigeliMorpog_PC: thanks20:38
Morpog_PCscrew that security released, give us an hotfix ;)20:38
Morpog_PChehe20:38
tigeli:)20:39
Morpog_PCyou're welcome tigeli20:39
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Morpog_PCtheres a coin app?20:40
* Morpog_PC searches store20:40
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stephgtigeli: I thought it was the other way round; I thought u9 being ready meant there'd be a new vulnerability20:41
* Morpog_PC already loves the coin app20:42
Morpog_PCProtip: release u9 and add the fix to u10 and release that 2 days later. People will love you :D20:42
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r0kk3rztigeli: store works20:50
r0kk3rzgood job20:50
r0kk3rzagree with the out of band patching for security20:50
r0kk3rzunless the QA procedures are too much to execute for a small fix20:51
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lukedirtwalkerr0kk3rz: is there shuffle in SirenSong?20:56
r0kk3rzyes and no20:57
lukedirtwalkerthat means?20:57
r0kk3rzthe random infinite play queue is kinda shuffle20:57
Morpog_PCyou have to use the coin app for each shuffle :D20:57
r0kk3rzqmediaplaylist does have a shuffle function, so i can easily implement that20:58
r0kk3rzbut at current, if you mean you have a playlist that you jumble up and play through sequentially, then no20:59
lukedirtwalkerI'm looking for an implementation, because I want to do something similar. Thanks for your infos20:59
r0kk3rzoh right21:00
r0kk3rzqmediaplaylist is probably what you want then21:00
r0kk3rzhas a shuffle function that presumable jumbles the list, as its not a play mode21:00
tigelir0kk3rz: thanks21:00
lukedirtwalkerTo look how they do it yes. But I can't use it.21:00
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r0kk3rzroll your own then21:01
r0kk3rzpretty sure theres plenty of array shuffling algorithms around21:01
tigelir0kk3rz: it is the fact that usually patching thing like openssl will make the whole world to rebuild.. :)21:01
r0kk3rztigeli: yeah fair enough, some things arent so easy to patch in isolation21:02
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tigelibut yeah.. I understand the need for faster delivery of hotfixes21:02
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lukedirtwalkerr0kk3rz: yeah, thanks.21:03
tigelibut at least we are patching android-vulns faster than others ;) though that21:05
Morpog_PCthat conspiracy theory about Kokias end made my day :D  http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1442971&postcount=3721:05
tigeliis not hard thing to do21:05
Morpog_PCNokias*21:05
lukedirtwalkerMorpog_PC: interesting theory :)21:07
Morpog_PChttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/832/dafuq-did-i-just-read-meme.jpg21:08
\gokimmoli, face21:11
\gogood night guys21:11
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\gois ever a pleasure be here21:11
kimmolign21:11
r0kk3rzMorpog_PC: thats pretty good21:13
r0kk3rzi do believe that elop was a plant to tank nokia so MS gets a cheap price on the sale21:13
r0kk3rzbut doing it for the NSA/Prism/etc21:13
r0kk3rzyeah maybe not21:13
Morpog_PCMS killes lots of other companys before. BoD at Nokia should be put in jail forbeing that naive.21:14
Morpog_PCkilled21:14
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r0kk3rzwell elop was an MS employee, suddenly changes nokias strategy to be full MS21:16
r0kk3rzhow much more overt can you be21:16
Morpog_PCwell, thats history21:17
* Morpog_PC needs to sleep21:17
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