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Shinryuulol, lipstick crashed after a call08:59
r0kk3rzsometimes you sneeze and lipstick crashes09:05
r0kk3rzgood thing is it recovers quickly09:05
Shinryuuindeed09:09
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svuorelathis might be a .. stupid question, but where is the guide on how to write apps ?13:13
ggabrielsvuorela: https://sailfishos.org/develop.html13:14
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svuorelaggabriel: thanks. but. urgh. another copy of qtcreator ?  :/13:16
Yanielshould get integrated into vanilla someday13:17
Nicd-apparently the plugin api is not there yet for it to be integrated13:18
svuorelaor is it just a convenience copy of qtcreator? And is the silica bits opensourcsed ?13:18
Nicd-silica QML is open source13:19
Nicd-but C++ is not13:19
svuorelaso one need to either trust the sailfish people completely or use a virtual machine to do development in :/13:19
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Nicd-well, you already bought their phone...13:20
Nightmare__you must trust someone, or do you review all code you compile from other sources?13:21
svuorelathe amount of people I trust is those with a key in the debian keyring.13:21
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svuorelaNicd-: but my phone doesn't have access to the same things my computer has access to.13:22
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Nicd-well, you can develop without qt creator too13:25
Nicd-some people have done that13:25
Nicd-you just need to build in the build vm yourself13:25
svuorelaI think I need the silica components as well13:25
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Nicd-but they're UI components, they don't have access to your computer13:26
Nicd-even emulation is done in a vm13:26
svuorelaI'd expect - like my normal qt coding - to test stuff in my normal machine and only go for emulation at a very late stage.13:27
r0kk3rzyeah the sdk comes with the VM needed for compiling + deploying13:27
Nicd-there's no way to test the silica stuff except running on a phone or the emulator VM13:27
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Jaresvuorela: it's provided as a bundled installer, so that everyone has a smooth user experience. There are some distant plans to have the plugin included with vanilla, but not anytime soon13:45
Jaresvuorela: your app might have a bunch of other dependencies besides silica, which are automatically handled in the mer vm. And also the rpm packaging is handled there. You'll also need support to do arm binaries and those are done in the mer vm as well...13:46
r0kk3rzyeah the vm is kinda important13:47
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r0kk3rzyou can really develop any other way13:47
r0kk3rz*cant13:47
svuorelaI'd expect it to only be relevant at a late stage in the app development, not unlike when I'm doing Qt desktop apps for windows ...13:48
Jaresvuorela: besides mer vm, there is the emulator, which is actually an i486 version of the sailfish os13:48
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coderussvuorela: Sailfish QtCreator is opensourced afaik13:57
coderussvuorela: you can code Qt5 stuf in your favourite IDE13:58
coderusand in very late stage make silica ui and compile for sailfish in SailfishSDK13:58
svuorelacoderus: I was hoping to pull in silica ui much earlier in the process.13:59
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coderusthen install SailfishSDK, File -> New Project -> Sailfish Silica. WHat problems?13:59
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Jareyup, it's in github: https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sailfish-qtcreator/tree/master14:00
Jarethe sdk is actually contained in a single folder, so it doesn't mess up anything even if you have the vanilla qt creator installed14:01
coderusSailfishSDK contains MerSDK VM and SailfishOS VM installers exactly for your - it wont garbage your pc with any stuff, everything will be kept inside VM14:01
coderusexcept main (one) SalifishOS folder and your projects folders of course14:01
coderusi have a lot of qtcc installed, and all of them working fine :)14:02
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svuorelacoderus: I don't have binary code executed on my main system that isn't found thru my linux distribution's main channels.14:15
r0kk3rzput the sdk in a vm then?14:24
svuorelathat's my plan14:24
r0kk3rzsure it'll be a vm in a vm, but then its seperated at least14:24
tbrmake sure the VM supports KVM pass-through, else vbox will fail IIRC14:27
tbralthough you might be able to reconfigure vbox to do full emulation14:27
coderusparanoia everywhere14:31
coderusjust install *buntu virtual machine and configure SDK in scratchbox: https://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/14:32
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coderussvuorela: compile Sailfish QtCreator from sources14:33
coderusand build engine is already in VM14:33
coderusyou dont need to virtualize anything yourself14:34
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SvenBertilHi! Anyone here willing to help me? I need mmcblk0p28 from a working phone. Thanks in advance!18:03
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cryoratSvenBertil, where can I find it?18:12
coderusSvenBertil: ask author: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9384918:14
coderusSvenBertil: he have backup18:14
coderusbut, does your problem really requires that?18:14
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SvenBertilNow it does.. :S was a little to fast when i try to fix it..18:29
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SvenBertilcryorat, dd the partition from the phone. it contains all the personal data and the operationsystem files on the phone. so i want from a factory new phone or you have to delete the files that you want me to get.18:45
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cryoratSvenBertil, jizzus christ! what did you do? :D19:24
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cryoratbtw, im a bit tired now for this procedure, so ill do it tomorrow19:25
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SvenBertilcryorat, no coment.. :) The phone get in boot loop and recovery and btrfs fix dident do the job.19:26
cryoratmy phone is not even a week old so I dont mind to lose all my data,19:26
cryorati will do a reset, and restore from backup19:27
cryoratmy factory os version is 1.0.719:27
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SvenBertildosent do a thing what version it is. if you dd to sdcard you must have btrfs or ext4 to get the whole partition, its 14gb some thing19:30
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SvenBertilhere is an other procedure, https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb if i get the tar files in that description, it maybe will work.19:33
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SvenBertilno need for factory reset then.19:34
falfadoes Jolla read ext4?19:40
falfathat would be awesome19:40
SvenBertilyha19:41
M4rtinKfalfa: works on my uSD just fine19:42
M4rtinKfalfa: others are using btrfs on uSD19:42
M4rtinKfalfa: unfortunately XFS doesn't seem to be supported :-(19:42
fennekkifalfa: why ext4 when you've got btrfs19:43
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ahjolinnabtrfs is still not ready, at least on 3.4 kernel19:46
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falfaI must try, this is great news :-)19:58
falfahow elegant19:58
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coderusand i'm still using oldschool fat32 :D20:04
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cryoratSvenBertil, maybe is not enough i'll use sd card :)20:16
SvenBertilcryorat, se if you can do the 2 first steps in this https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb maybe the only thing i need..20:22
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cryoratohh fuck it! ill do it now, im too curious20:31
SvenBertilcryorat, :D20:32
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timotheyhey, i think i bricked my phone, cant even do a factory reset in recovery mode, anyone who can help me :/21:05
SvenBertiltimothey, have you tested the btrfs fix?21:09
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SvenBertilbtrfs recovery?21:10
timotheyyes, didnt work.... i know that my phone memory is full so i tried to delet the snaps, with no success , its mounting for 3 hours now..21:11
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SvenBertilhow large sd do you have?21:13
timotheyat the beginning my phone rebooted with the green LED blinking, after that i tried a factory reset since then i am in bootloop21:13
timothey8gb21:13
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timotheyi tired this , "mount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/" still nothing21:13
SvenBertilget some errors when you do that comand?21:18
timotheyno, its operating21:19
timotheybut now for 3 hours21:19
SvenBertiltry an restart de device in recovery and do it again.21:21
timotheyi dont care about loosing data, have a backup at the pc, , how long should i usually take, this command?21:21
SvenBertilat my full partition i took a cople of seconds..21:22
SvenBertilyou can dd the mmcblk0p28 and mount it on the computer and see if you can fix the problem there.21:24
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SvenBertili wait for tar files for that partition to recover my phone if i succeed i can help you with it too.21:25
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timotheywould be great, since i am not good in those stuff :/21:30
timotheysegmentation fault, is the error now21:32
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gogetaSvenBertil, and timothey21:34
gogetahttp://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html21:34
gogetapls btrfs fi show21:34
SvenBertilgogeta, i have more proplems, i have to have files from a working phone.21:38
timotheyand i am to stupid for that :D21:39
gogetayou need a mmc0p28 dump ?21:39
timotheyyes21:40
gogetaneed a virgin phone for that21:41
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timotheyLabel: 'sailfish'  uuid: 86180ca0-d351-4551-b262-22b49e1adf47         Total devices 1 FS bytes used 7.17GB         devid    1 size 13.75GB used 13.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p2821:43
gogetapls21:43
gogetais a bit scary21:43
gogetabut works21:43
gogetayou need to mount that fs21:43
SvenBertili found this, https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb i waiting for that tar files cryorat fixes.21:43
gogetai did something different21:45
gogetamount21:45
gogetaand try to rebanlance with small values21:45
gogeta-dusage=0 to 3021:46
gogetadon't go higher21:46
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