#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2015-01-06

temmi_moodamn00:00
temmi_moohttp://www.muurame.com00:00
slateget a lastucase00:00
sebsebsebshow people Jolla00:00
sebsebsebwhen they can't ee the OS00:00
sebsebseband they wil think it doens't look that good I guess00:00
sebsebsebyeah design looks shit really00:01
sebsebsebit's just a big rectangle really00:02
temmi_mooi like it :)00:02
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sebsebsebtemmi_moo: I may buy a few cases :d00:03
sebsebsebdiffneet colours yeah00:03
temmi_moothen again i grew up in middle of lundia and aalto furniture00:03
sebsebseblundia where's that?00:03
temmi_mooalso, i got the reddish orange case00:03
sebsebsebyeah the white case doenst' look that good00:03
sebsebseband that's the one I am on about here00:03
temmi_moohttp://lundia.fi00:04
temmi_mooartek too00:04
slateblack bulky aluminium part is not very scandinavian. And also the sharp corners tend to loose color.00:04
temmi_mooaluminium? yes they loose colour and hurt hands00:05
sebsebsebI might just buy a case of each colour :d00:05
sebsebsebdepends00:05
sebsebsebI guess this white case with the two jolla stickers on it would be ok though00:05
sebsebsebmaybe some more stickers to of some sort :d00:05
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andybransonI think sebsebseb has a point. The Jolla phone needs to stand out. Right now people assume mine is a windows phone.07:58
andybransonThink the design on the tablet is a lot more striking07:58
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andybransona unique default OH would do the trick. white doesn't really.07:59
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temmi_moosuch as the orange10:41
temmi_mooyou'd have to separate by colour since the design on all mobile devices pretty much follows the display10:41
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DarkWhite_hello, I yesterday format my sd card to btrfs and shared it with android (a tjc guide by chemist+wuubi script). However, I now get "not enough space" from certain android apps eg. aptoide which. is there around this?12:42
TMavicakimmoli: when using diptoh, the screen wont auto off, is it known?12:49
kimmoliif you have made such script there?12:49
TMavicamade before, but now deleted12:50
kimmolihmm..12:50
kimmolinot in charger?12:50
TMavicano charger12:51
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TMavicao. maybe i havent mcetool to disable it..12:52
kimmolithen it shouldn't have a effect on that. You have diptoh on -> not auto off , diptoh removed > auto off ??12:52
kimmoliah12:53
TMavicano. i think i havent off it before deleted that script, so the script always be on?12:53
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kimmoliyes, if it is that what in the TMO? it is persistent :)12:53
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kimmolirun the off part again12:54
TMavicayes. just i remember that i done that in finland12:54
TMavicaLOL12:54
kimmoliit is not that dark here, that you want to keep display on all-the-time .12:56
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TMavicajust want test12:57
TMavicaLOL12:57
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jubo2Got phone from service. Backups worked as expected. Installed Android support and used the .apk-downloader to download com.spotify.music.apk but when I choose install it just says "if nothing happens the package may be faulty"15:50
jubo2and nothing happens15:51
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Yanielthere have been problems with opening apks15:52
TwisteRMorpog_PC: hi, it's me again :) So I managed to connect to other wifi, downloaded and installed update to 1.1.1.27, but after reboot my OS version still 1.0.2.5. I have feeling that if I repeat the update procedure now, I'll end up with a black screen and recovery mode (as it was before my troubles with wifi several weeks ago)15:53
TwisteRwhat should I do? Try to update nevertheless?15:54
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TwisteRfrom FAQ: It has turned out that sometimes the update has failed and the phone has still version 1.0.2.5. In this case redo this step (update from 1.0.2.5 to the latest). The 2nd attempt should work.15:55
TwisteRseems to be my case15:55
chem|stTwisteR: make some space15:55
TwisteRnothing there15:55
TwisteRno personal data at all15:56
chem|stTwisteR: 4GB of non-user data is also data15:56
TwisteRremoved all standard videos and fotos from gallery15:57
chem|stwell that is not what I mean...15:57
chem|stthat is pre-installed user-data...15:57
TwisteR"About device" reports 2.0 of 13.7 GB used15:58
chem|stI read about the install failing if / has not enough free space so that was my first idea for you15:58
chem|stthen just try again15:59
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TwisteRthis time update was downloaded much faster, in about a minute (just like it was previous time, when I ended up with a black screen)16:00
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kalle_hi, could someone help me with btrfs android subvolume problem?16:11
Morpog_PCTwisteR, can you install developer mode and try brfs fi show16:14
Morpog_PCin terminal16:14
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kalle_both subvolumes are rw (chemist tjc android sd btrfs guide) but some android apps can't see it eg. apptoide app store16:18
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kalle_@morpog if you meant (terminal ->)root@nemo# brfs fi show ### does nothing16:20
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Morpog_PCkalle, I meant TwisteR16:20
kalle_ah sorry16:21
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FUZxxlHello!18:49
FUZxxlIs this the right place to ask questions about my Jolla phone?18:49
FUZxxlI have a problem installing an APK. I've downloaded it (and installed Android support), but when I click on the apk file, nothing happens.18:50
chem|stphaeron: https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/?comment=75387#comment-7538718:51
YanielFUZxxl: yes18:51
FUZxxlYaniel: great!18:52
FUZxxlCan you help me with my problem?18:52
chem|stphaeron: was it you with mtp+btrfs working fine? :)18:52
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FUZxxlThe APK is oeffi-8.5-aosp.apk if that matters.18:52
Yanielno. but I have encountered it too18:52
FUZxxlok. What was your solution?18:52
Yanielnone het18:52
YanielI decided I can live without steam on my jolla for a while :D18:53
FUZxxluh... :-(18:53
FUZxxlI need this one application; it's very important for me.18:53
FUZxxlthis is bad news.18:53
FUZxxl(slightly)18:53
Yanieltry installing sailfsh-utilities18:54
FUZxxlYaniel: how?18:54
Yanieljolla app store18:54
Yanieland then go to settings->system->utilities->restart alien dalvik18:54
FUZxxlok..18:54
Yanielthen try again18:54
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secI can never find sailfsh-utilities on the app store18:56
secI have browsed for hours on end18:57
Nicd-you have to search for it18:57
FUZxxlsec: try the search function18:57
Nicd-it's not displayed otherwise18:57
secFUZxxl: I did18:57
secNicd-: I did18:57
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secI searched for "Sailfish Utilities" as suggested by the autocomplete though I think18:58
FUZxxlit works!18:58
FUZxxlYou are marvelous18:58
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secUm, I swear I couldn't find it earlier18:59
secNow it's result 118:59
sec._.18:59
Yanielit's called search engine optimization19:00
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chem|stirc has an /away function... no need to change your nick to $afk...19:21
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chem|stDarkWhite_: any progress?19:21
chem|stDarkWhite_: if everything is mounted correctly, is RW (you can touch files too) I see no reason why it should be out of space but maybe that your internal storage is full or something messed up your metadata and you need to balance btrfs19:23
DarkWhite_my insternal storage is not full only 5gb used. something is definetly wrong with alien-dalvik or btrfs19:25
DarkWhite_*internal*19:26
DarkWhite_i can access both subvolumes via ssh and write to them19:26
DarkWhite_as nemo and root19:26
DarkWhite_alien-dalvik can't anymore access /home/nemo/android_storage. is that right?19:28
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DarkWhite_Sailfish apps does work and recognice  jolla mSD subvolume19:30
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TwisteRMorpog_PC: finally solved all my problems. That definitely was an wifi-related issue :-)19:51
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chem|stgrmlfsac#Q^$@#5q 64MB for 1:12min video - still no new codec...21:05
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Teguhumm, twitch keeps crashing for some reason. it worked normally yesterday for a long time, then crashed suddenly and now keeps crashing a few secs after opening the app..21:43
Tegureboots ands dalvik restarts tried21:44
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Tegualso reinstallation of the app21:55
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Morpog_PCTwisteR, great to hear!22:26
Teguany ways to troubleshoot crashing of an android app? logs or something?22:28
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Lucky_lukeguys my fav shortcuts on settings22:37
Lucky_lukego up22:37
Lucky_lukei cant see now active ibactive22:37
Lucky_lukehow can i fix this bug?22:38
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sledgesTegu: https://together.jolla.com/question/36604/android-debug-traces/23:02
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WaRi0all my favs have this bug23:13
WaRi0https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s526x395/10906511_10154991853730697_9168469209533026123_n.jpg?oh=640f6281366084d93f1ea972be557ca2&oe=552BC36623:13
sledgesLucky_luke: WaRi0: they are not active/inactive, they are shortcuts to menu pages23:14
WaRi0can you uderstand my prob?23:14
sledgesif you go inside a menu page and long-press under a "toggle" item -> add to favourites, that will have switcher indicator in favourites23:14
WaRi0yes23:15
WaRi0with no spots23:15
WaRi0up23:15
sledgesno spot - a shortcut to menu page, not a toggle23:15
WaRi0i have wifi bt23:15
WaRi0with no spot icon23:15
WaRi0like the picture23:15
WaRi0this is not my phone23:16
WaRi0is an internet pic23:16
sledgesin the pictuer wifi is lit23:16
sledgesbt is not23:16
sledgesboth spotted23:16
WaRi0is an internet pic23:16
WaRi0not mine23:16
WaRi0i have all fav23:16
WaRi0with no spot23:16
WaRi0bt wifi23:16
WaRi0no spots23:16
WaRi0:P23:16
WaRi0i del23:16
WaRi0and add again23:16
WaRi0nothing change23:17
sledgeswhere do you add23:17
sledgesunder menu in the list23:17
sledgesor -inside- that menu on the actual toggle?23:17
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sledgesim still w8ing ;P23:24
WaRi0http://imgur.com/gdJAwVz23:24
WaRi0thanks my menu of favs23:24
WaRi0thats*23:24
WaRi0no spots :P23:24
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* pahartik did install "SailfishOS 1.1.1.27", still having problem with "harbour-communi" not staying connected to IRC proxy whenever external power is not provided23:25
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WaRi0sledges ?:P23:41
sledgesWaRi0: thanks for hilight, now i see23:44
sledgesso look:23:44
sledgesSettings->System->WLAN(long press->add to favourites) --> no spot23:44
sledgesSettings->System->WLAN->WLAN(long press->add to favourites) --> spot23:45
WaRi0w8 to try23:45
WaRi0thankssss now work23:46
WaRi0:)))23:46
sledgesno pb:)23:46
WaRi0now i can go see supernatural happy23:48
sledgesanother happy customer :)23:48
WaRi0:}23:48
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