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Andy80hi08:03
Andy80what's the official contact/contact-form for Jolla customer care? I broke my SIM slot and I would like to know how much does it cost to repair it... thanks!08:04
Stskeepsjolla.zendesk.com08:08
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Andy80thanks!08:12
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Sail0roO how can someone break the sim slot08:29
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jlind_hi, I have just updated to 1.0.2.5, and now when I pulldown in "About product" and it checks for updates it says its Up to date. How do I get the 1.1.x releases. Do I send a mail to update9-opt-in?09:38
Stskeepshmm you should get it offered09:38
Stskeepswithout opt-in09:38
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ppthere's version --dup but that might do funny things I guess?09:39
Stskeepsyeah, never do version --dup09:39
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Stskeepsjlind_: you updated from what release to 1.0.2.5?09:40
jlind_yeah09:40
jlind_Stskeeps: hi btw :)09:40
Stskeepso/09:40
slettait was a factory reset starting on 1.0.009:40
Stskeepsokay.. if it's already a factory reset; can you try this: factory reset, make sure jolla account is set up in start up wizard, then update to 1.0.2.5 without doing anything else, then check for updates?09:41
Stskeepsif that breaks, i'll flash a local device to verify if something's wrong09:41
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jlind_yeah, but this is exactly what I just did I think09:42
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Stskeepsmind to try again? i'll be around for next hour09:42
jlind_cool09:42
jlind_Stskeeps: so, reset device or the boot phone holding down the vol - button09:43
Stskeepsreset should be fine09:43
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jlind_Stskeeps: 1.0.0.5 (Kaajanlampi)09:52
Stskeepsgood09:52
jlind_System update available for download. Version 1.0.2-10.12.5.jolla09:53
jlind_Stskeeps: Pull down to download?09:54
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Stskeepsyes09:57
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jlind_Stskeeps: ok, download tok a while for some reason, but its installing now.10:24
Stskeeps1.0.2 or 1.1?10:24
jlind_1.0.210:25
Stskeepsok10:25
jlind_Stskeeps: nice, now I got to 1.1.1.2710:30
Stskeepsgood10:30
jlind_Stskeeps: cheers10:30
Stskeepsnp10:30
Stskeepsqt5.2 goodness awaits10:30
jlind_exactly :)10:30
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urswhat do I have to do if a .ogg file I've got shows up in my media library but is not selectable as a ringtone?10:58
ursDo they need to be in some special format for it?10:58
Paavi2_0i was wondering what would be the best way to install mosh on 1.1.1.27 ...NielDK's mosh from openrepos doesn't install any dependencies (perl: file not found) and chum's repo is for some older version of sailfishos10:59
urs(the ringtone selection thingy just says "copy some music to your device" and doesnt list the file)10:59
YanielPaavi2_0: install from chum10:59
ursPaavi2_0: I just simply installed perl via pkcon10:59
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Paavi2_0urs: yep, but from which repositories?11:00
Nicd-I have it from chum11:01
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Paavi2_0Yaniel: is it a good idea to add11:01
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Paavi2_0http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.2.5/1.0.2.5_armv7hl/11:01
Nicd-how about http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.8.19:/testing/1.0.8.19_armv7hl/ :)11:02
Paavi2_0even though my sailfish os version is 1.1.1.27?11:02
Nicd-I just downloaded the rpm manually from there11:02
Nicd-didn't have to add any repo11:02
ppyou should be able to rpm -Uvh http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.8.19:/testing/1.0.8.19_armv7hl/armv7hl/mosh-1.2.4-10.1.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm11:03
pp(e11:03
pp(well, assuming you have all deps)11:03
Paavi2_0Nicd-: the idea with the repository is to get update when and if there's some crucial update (provided the maintainer updates his/her repo on regular basis)11:03
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Paavi2_0ok. thanks for _trying_ to help. :)11:05
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Yaniellemme check what version I have added11:09
Yanielhuh, none apparently11:09
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Yanielbut I still have mosh installed from the 1.0.8.19 one11:10
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Paavi2_0well, since i'm totally unable to find a repository with a matching release number i'm going to live dangerously and add the one with the biggest/closest number11:10
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Paavi2_0Yaniel: seems to work fine so far...11:55
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temmi_mooPaavi2_0: ISO! ?12:31
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Paavi2_0temmi_moo: say what?12:37
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temmi_mooother paavi, then12:44
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chem|sthow do I deactivate or better smoothen out OOMkiller?13:04
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chem|sthmm openwarhouse is on 100% cpu for minutes to install 1 (one) app...13:08
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tevechem|st: Someone told that this should deactivate oomk: echo "0,0,0,0,0" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree13:14
chem|stteve: thanks.. I thought it is the oom but it was actually connman (again)13:16
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jlind_hi, I have another question. I want to download a couple of podcasts from a webpage. The podcasts are mp3 files. Is there anyway to do that?13:22
Bullxcan your browser play that mp3? maybe you can save from browser's cache13:25
chem|stjlind_: does the device load them to playback directly?13:26
chem|stjlind_: gpodder does not work?13:26
jlind_Bullx: yeah, the browser starts playing it. But I want to download it so I can listen to it later offline13:26
* jlind_ searches for gpodder13:27
Bullxuse your jolla13:27
Bullxphone?13:27
Bullxor13:27
Bullxa pc browser?13:28
jlind_Bullx: but of course13:28
warfarejlind_: use gpodder ;)13:28
jlind_yeah... seems to fit the bill13:28
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warfaremh, can I just add my sdcard to the internal btrfs or would that be a bad idea?13:30
Bullxis gpodder a app in jolla store?13:31
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tbrwarfare: if you make a backup dd image of the device btrfs partition beforehand and make sure that your recovery allows you to replay that13:32
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anandrkrisHi - I have my Google Accounts configured in Jolla13:38
anandrkrisI see TJC threads about configuring peak time...Can you help me on how can i set it up?13:38
anandrkrisDo i need to configure it under general Mail account?13:39
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warfaretbr: so no flasher recovery possible?13:40
tadzikBullx: now it is13:43
tbrwarfare: due to things being not distributable (yay Qcomm), no public flasher13:45
Stskeepsimages, flasher is available13:45
Stskeeps:P13:45
Stskeepsbut not images, to phrase correctly13:46
tbrwarfare: extracting and assembling data from a device to create a flashable images would be nice community effort13:46
tbryah, flasher is just fastboot foo13:46
Bullxtadzik: thx13:47
Bullxhow does the jolla IRC client tab a name?13:47
secJolla IRC client? Tab a name?13:48
* lainwir3d just ordered the lime other half13:49
* sec ordered a black one13:49
j-dogeanandrkris: do you mean the 'Custom' setting for the accounts 'Email sync' interval?13:49
anandrkrisyes...13:49
anandrkrisIs it available under Google account?13:50
j-dogeshould be13:50
anandrkrisnot able to find it...13:50
j-dogein Settings/Accounts, tap on the google account in question, scroll down to 'Email sync', just under the signature options13:51
j-doge'Sync emails <option>'13:51
chem|stoh nice... now you get 4 other halfs and a VIP box when you order a phone (50 pieces limited)13:52
anandrkrisj-doge: Thanks a bunch...don't know how i missed that Custom option!13:53
j-dogeanandrkris: it's easier to miss than you'd think :P13:53
msvb-labStskeeps: Hi there.13:53
Stskeepsmsvb-lab: still backlogged, terribly sorry13:53
Stskeepsgot sick the moemnt i started work again13:53
msvb-labStskeeps: Oh, maybe your doctor will tell you that work == sickness. Avoid work, he/she says?13:54
msvb-labNo worries in any case, just as long as you don't completely forget.13:54
Stskeepsmsvb-lab: i'm in poland, sick leave requires me to break my neck, from what i grok.. :P13:55
msvb-labStskeeps: Oh please don't do that just for a few days off.13:56
msvb-labWe do need you to stay healthy please.13:56
warfaretbr: hrhm. *shakes fist at qualcomm*13:56
msvb-labAnyway, to broaden the topic, I've missed the deadline to prepare for the Uni lectures as well.13:56
msvb-labBut my contact (professor there) was keenly interested, and it's our job to not wait too long.13:56
anandrkrisj-doge: :) one more doubt - if i define twice in a day in off-peak period13:56
msvb-lab...otherwise we risk losing out on the momentum created by the on-site professor's interest.13:57
anandrkrisoff-peak period is taken as a day..is it?13:57
chem|stwarfare: lets hope jolla will cut better deals in the future and is never forced to go qualcomm again13:57
j-dogeanandrkris: iirc13:57
j-dogeanandrkris: iirc 'twice per day' has fixed times of day, I might be completely wrong13:58
Stskeepschem|st: at the moment my best proposal is to offer ability to fetch a fully flashable image over MTP or other crap13:58
j-dogethat or it's like at the beginning and at the end of the period, or just twice during the off-peak period or smth13:58
j-dogeanandrkris: so in a nutshell it could be anything :D13:58
anandrkrishmm..ok...that makes sense for non-peak days but non-peak hours what would happen13:59
Stskeepschem|st: for tablet13:59
anandrkrisanyways gmail is not critical for me, so will experiment13:59
chem|stStskeeps: creating a flashable img onto sdcard would be just fine13:59
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chem|stStskeeps: we don't need a provided-by-jolla image, but a save and sound way for $user to do it14:01
Stskeepsnod14:01
anandrkrisStskeeps: I think, i would need entire weekend to read up references of your jolla blog article :)14:03
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anandrkrisWith gpodder native client, now you should consider doing podcasts :D14:04
chem|st+114:05
* anandrkris Others you could do follow suit chem|st ;-)14:05
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sledgeshttps://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/55536421403938406414:30
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faenilvery cool stuff :) even though I already ahve the pink one :D14:33
fluxI guess this would be a good time to ask care about the ToH related to the use of the discount code last year.. :)14:34
* tbr meanwhile tries to figure out how to watch this stream on his android tv once it goes online...14:38
tbrhttp://www.projectara.com/mv-livestream14:38
faenilcool!14:40
sledgesfaenil: sneaky sneaky :D14:41
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faenilsledges, :D14:41
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sechttp://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7543883/samsung-tizen-phone-announced-z117:16
Nicd-looks like they reactivated the production lines of some of their old android models and just reflash it with tizen. judging from the product photos17:18
secDon't they all look the same?17:18
tadzikthe same as android phones ;P17:19
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secTizen uses GNU? Or is it a clusterfuck like Android?17:22
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secDisregard that. I feel like an idiot for asking.17:22
secLong day at work17:22
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DarkWhite_does lime and pink toh have unique sound ambience?17:28
DarkWhite_If so, I hope there will be a sound preview for both.17:32
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Obi-Lanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Ansf9z6bs19:33
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chem|stsec: a friend of mine stopped developing as it is even more a clusterfuck than android20:29
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secHow so chem|st20:36
secI would think it'd be a nice platform given the lineage20:37
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attahStskeeps: hack'n'play tip: http://se.mouser.com/new/microchip/microchip-3dtouchpad/20:43
* Stskeeps cp's20:44
coderusMazeLock patch updated for u10 and released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-mazelock20:47
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coderusHey, i need a list of all available music players with MPRIS2 support20:53
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coderusand then i'll release cool patch :)20:58
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kimmoliattah: development board(s) of that technology just sits in a cardboard box, waiting inspiration to hooke them to jolla...21:11
attahkimmoli: why (how?) do you always keep beating me to all the cool stuff? ;)21:12
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attahbest use i can think of off the top of my head is for scrolling stuff without poking your fingers at it21:13
temmi_moohmm21:13
temmi_moodoes the tohkbd have access to voltage supply rail so that it could be used as charging interface?21:13
attahhwoever.. i doubt it can do multifinger tracking in the 3rd dimension21:13
temmi_mooi mean, the magnetically aligned springy contacts21:14
kimmoliyeah, the demo i tested did have these over-the-edge gestures and stuff21:14
kimmolitemmi_moo: no21:14
temmi_moofsck no21:14
temmi_moo:(21:14
Stskeepsattah: now if they made that thing half size..21:14
temmi_mooi just had an idea i could make a power over ethernet charger / nic card that attached to that interface21:15
attahthat's bound t happen sooner or later, right?21:15
temmi_moobut...21:15
kimmolithe demoboard was A5 size21:15
* attah did not notice that it speaks i2c natively21:16
kimmolitemmi_moo: hmm.. i have to doublecheck...21:18
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temmi_mooi'd really like to extend jolla from that particular interface instead of having to replace toh every time i switch my personal mode21:19
temmi_mooi mean, transitioning from breakfast mode to commuting mode is not something worth changing toh21:19
kimmolitemmi_moo: it is connected, 5V-Charge input comes to the pads21:19
temmi_moooh cool21:19
temmi_mooso you could use that interface to create a cradle for jolla21:20
kimmoliyeah21:20
temmi_moothanks for designing this so21:20
kimmolii just did check the keyboard part schematics, and ofc it is unconnected there21:20
kimmolibut on the base-part, it is connected21:20
temmi_moothe keybored doesn't need it but if the spring contacts have it, it is good21:20
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kimmolior the pads on base21:21
temmi_mooi'll be wanting to make PoElli-Jolla adaptation21:21
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kimmoliand the earlier proto didn't have it, only 5 pads21:21
kimmoli;)21:21
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temmi_mooPoElli being a PoE enabled NIC with ENC424J600 100BaseT PHY/MAC speaking SPI21:21
attahkimmoli: which devkit do you have?21:22
temmi_mooare there any linux drivers for that?21:22
kimmolidunno.21:23
kimmolii have made spi-over-i2c bridge for eink21:23
kimmoliattah:  moment21:23
Toxipare there any previews for Lime and nadeshiko pink TOH sounds?21:23
ToxipThere used to be for Aloe, Keira Black and Poppy Red21:24
temmi_moospi over i2c sounds cool21:24
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kimmoliattah: DM160217 and DM160218 and some MGC3130-I/MQ  chips21:25
temmi_mookimmoli: interested in lighting hacking?21:25
attahStskeeps: it seems they include the gerber files for making some additional sizes for the more comprehensive dev-kit21:25
temmi_mooit might still be possible to join ell-i/aalto/helvar/ledil hackathon in otaniemi21:25
attahkimmoli: DM160218 looks promising :)21:26
kimmoliwould be interesting, but there is this one limited thing - called time21:26
attahthat's the one i was interested in21:26
attahoh.. yes21:27
attahbut i'm switching employer.. and with that i get down to 7.75h working day.. what will i do with all this time?21:27
kimmolithe extra 0.25h ?21:28
temmi_mooattah: you'll hack ell-i distributed embedded iot buzzword thingyjimmys into doing whatever you want21:28
attahyes ;)21:28
attahtemmi_moo: ell-i?21:28
kimmoliside-side-project atm is to build home-automation thingy around RPi21:29
kimmoliside^3 is tinker with ESP826621:29
attahkimmoli: but does it have a laser?21:29
kimmolias soon as they come21:29
temmi_mookimmoli: i have the leaf nodes for your software that runs on the raspi21:29
temmi_mooalso, we have a basis for that software as bamboo sticks and duck tape and shoe goo21:29
temmi_moobeing a platform for implementing home automation is one of the original goals of ell-i open source cooperation21:30
temmi_moosorry, cooperative21:30
kimmolino sugru?21:30
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temmi_moolots of it21:31
kimmolithen need to connect wood-chipping-machine to Internet, and add non-password protected vnc server there21:31
temmi_mooalso, the supports are printed with a makerbot21:31
kimmoliand wait it wins in vnc-roulette21:32
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temmi_mooso it'll chuck wood like a woodchuck, then?21:33
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kimmolihttps://app.younited.com/?shareObject=8b80d10b-3003-2e7a-c020-3a963f98e1e821:34
temmi_moooh21:35
temmi_mooi'll show you mine, hold on21:35
attahi'm not much for stereotypes.. but, kimmoli.. that's pretty finnish right there21:35
temmi_moohttps://plus.google.com/106599856185155563972/posts/PSH1pWrm9og?pid=6005153042309377090&oid=10659985618515556397221:36
attah:)21:38
kimmolitemmi_moo: nice, propably the best axe there is21:38
temmi_mooi love it21:38
temmi_mooit's also very likely in the first house it was bought to21:39
temmi_mooit came with the house i bought recently from grandson of the man who built this house21:39
kimmoliour thing will be powered with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVWKF8T7GfA21:40
temmi_moobillnäs is directly downstream via waterway from this house21:40
* attah wonders if there is a TOH drawing with measurements printed for keep-out zones21:40
temmi_mooalso, the original builder of this house was a carpenter who built the house for his business21:40
temmi_mooduring that time boats were more common commercial vehicles than horse carriages21:41
temmi_mooright after first world war21:41
kimmoliattah: keepout?21:42
attahkimmoli: restricted antenna areas21:43
kimmolithe toh-develkit has some drawings, locations of antennas etc21:43
attahyeah.. without measurements in the one i have at least21:43
kimmoliah measurements21:43
kimmolithere is 3d model for the phone-part-reference?21:44
kimmoliiirc you can get them there?21:44
attahdeduce, or get?21:44
kimmoliget == measure with your favorite 3d cad ?21:44
kimmolihttps://app.younited.com/?shareObject=11e55e37-a140-6005-118f-cd1b714b3c1221:44
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kimmolithis we made for pre-handling the small trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbCRBTfcv6c21:45
attahin that case i'll just zoom it to 1:1 and take some calipers to the screen for now21:45
* attah has yet to find a favorite 3d cad app, and my 2d one has been borked21:46
kimmolii did purchase varicad ages ago, and at least i kinda know how to use it21:47
kimmolibut few free options exists too21:47
temmi_mookimmoli: for pre-handling small trees, I got this: https://www.varusteleka.fi/fi/product/varusteleka-skrama-mk-ii-eraveitsi-hiiliteras/2802521:48
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kimmolihmm. that could work here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21mE2kBuhqc21:50
coderusLockscreen mediaplayer controls patch released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-lockscreen-mediaplayer-controls21:50
temmi_moofor more real handling nonsmall trees we got a nice stihl chainsaw for wedding present21:50
Guest61950coderus we w8 the maze lock :P21:51
attahkimmoli: for pedestrians?21:51
temmi_moofsck man that's warcart dangerous :D21:51
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temmi_mooalso you got some nice nerd toys for summer cottage21:51
temmi_moounless it's your permanent living house?21:51
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coderusLucky_luke: read few pages back please21:53
coderushttps://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-mazelock21:54
Lucky_lukeaaa i dont see it21:54
Lucky_luke:P21:54
Lucky_lukelet me try and feed back21:54
temmi_mooi'll go hit the haystack21:54
kimmolitemmi_moo: my bro's place21:54
kimmoliyeah, gn21:55
coderusbtw, on the back of toh paper printed some private code of tohd?21:55
attahi'll be off too, good night all21:56
kimmoliprivate code?21:56
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coderusnon opensource i mean :)21:57
Paavi2_0there's a word for that21:58
kimmolihttps://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930/blob/master/drivers/mfd/toh.c21:59
kimmolisomething else than that?21:59
kimmoliaa, tohd  as the daemon itself22:01
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* kimmoli segfaults, gn22:03
faenilkimmoli, watch out for bed misses22:03
coderuskimmoli: gn :D22:04
coderusdid you trashed your papers from inside of toh?22:04
coderusi'm just wondering what exactly sources are printed :)22:05
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Nightmare__coderus: nice macelock for u10 :) thx22:11
kimmolifaenil: i invalidate cache and flush stdout before22:11
faenil:)22:11
faenil:D22:11
kimmolicoderus: i have them saved. but tomorrow.22:12
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Lucky_lukecoderus how enable mazelock?22:21
Lucky_lukei enable it and i have alphabet22:21
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Lucky_lukeok i found it22:21
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coderusLucky_luke: restart bla-bla services in patchmanager menu. as usual after enabling patch :)22:29
Lucky_lukenumeric keybord on or off?22:30
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coderusas you wish22:35
coderusnumeris will restrict you to use 3x3 maze. alphanumeric allow using up to 6x6 maze22:35
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coderusSailfishOS Patch: Scramble lockpad buttons first released on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-scramble-lockpad-buttons22:45
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