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| TMavica | the new version seem is 1.1.4.24 | 06:30 |
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| suosaaski | when is sailfish 2.0 due for the jolla phone? | 06:42 |
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| jaacoppi | suosaaski: when it's ready, probably in summer | 07:21 |
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| nivw | hi, can I connect from my phone to a server using wifi direct and pull a web page? | 09:09 |
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| flux | no, jolla does not support wifi direct. https://together.jolla.com/question/54582/wifi-direct-or-p2p-wifi-support/ | 09:19 |
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| tadzik | wifi direct, is that a fancy word for ad-hoc wifi? | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | no | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | ad-hoc wifi is insane | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | 11:06 | |
| nivw | its peer to peer | 11:12 |
| nivw | much faster then ad-hoc mode | 11:12 |
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| SpeedEvil | It's really not. | 11:18 |
| SpeedEvil | At least amongst the peers. | 11:19 |
| SpeedEvil | Ad-hoc has major issues though | 11:19 |
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| temmi_hoo | what's wifi direct then? | 11:43 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a sort of direct connection to another device | 11:43 |
| coderus | in facebook jolla group peoples updating to 1.1.4.24 :) | 11:50 |
| Yaniel | where did 1.1.3 go? :o | 11:50 |
| Yaniel | and also why don't I see an update | 11:51 |
| Nicd- | I don't see it either | 11:51 |
| dirkvl | developer update | 11:52 |
| dirkvl | warranty-voiding update for pro´s | 11:52 |
| tadzik | even more developer than early access? :) | 11:53 |
| chem|st | tadzik: we are at 1.1.2, so what stage do you guess is 1.1.4 in? | 11:54 |
| tadzik | sounds like "planned", unless there's a new trend of skipping odd numbers | 11:55 |
| coderus | maybe jolla release number now showing month like ubuntu? :) | 11:57 |
| Yaniel | hmm... sfos.year.month.patch? | 11:59 |
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| Yaniel | year 0 being launch year | 11:59 |
| entil | wasn't there an update last month? | 12:00 |
| * entil must be getting old | 12:00 | |
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| nomeata | Hi. My jolla occasionally suddently turns off, especially when I’m starting to do something that consumes more power, or says battery empty when after a restart it is at 50%. | 12:02 |
| nomeata | Is that a common problem or a hardware fault? | 12:02 |
| rubdos | Can't an even number mean 'stable', and uneven 'unstable', like the Linux kernel numbering/ | 12:02 |
| rubdos | ? * | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | nomeata: contact care | 12:02 |
| * nomeata used to have an OpenMoko Neo, so I guess I am _too_ used to hardware issues :-) | 12:03 | |
| * Stskeeps was disappointed in the freerunner, but was amazed by it's gps performance | 12:03 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:03 |
| nomeata | hmm. I don’t think I’ eligible to warranty any more | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | can't hurt to contact | 12:05 |
| Yaniel | nomeata: did you do the paper trick yet? | 12:06 |
| Shinryuu | I had an issue where my phone rebooted itself.. I noticed that I had accidentally bent one support pin so it was a bit loose.. I was able to fix it with tweezers and patience | 12:07 |
| Shinryuu | never try to put battery in when you're sleepy or something | 12:07 |
| nomeata | Yaniel: I guess I should try that first, thanks. | 12:08 |
| nomeata | although I did apply the eraser trick a few times | 12:09 |
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| entil | Stskeeps: hiya, you around? I was asked #elsewhere about how ART will impact android compatibility on sailfish... it's an interesting question, do you have ideas? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | dalvik is just a cute name | 12:33 |
| entil | huh? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | as in, we're not tied to it being dalvik or art | 12:34 |
| entil | ah, that's sweet | 12:34 |
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| Sailor4481 | hi :) | 14:23 |
| Sailor4481 | so happy i finally got my jolla | 14:24 |
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| Sailor4481 | one thing im kind of concerned about is the usb connector (one that came with phone).. feels it needs a lot of force to unplug from the phone.. is this normal? im worried it will damage the port and was thinking to remove the small teeth on the usb connector.. | 14:27 |
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| coderus | Sailor4481: it's microusb type B standart | 14:32 |
| coderus | all cables have these safety teeths | 14:32 |
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| rubdos | Sailor4481, I'd say if you damage the phone using the microusb cable that comes with the phone, that'd fall under warranty. | 14:32 |
| coderus | if you remove it nothing will hold your cabble inside connector | 14:32 |
| Sailor4481 | coderus thanks. i was wondering about other people's experiences .. does it require force to unplug it from phone? | 14:33 |
| Sailor4481 | jolla is not available in my country.. any warranty claims will be difficult as i ordered it from another country.. | 14:34 |
| coderus | Sailor4481: you can hold cable in hand and phone should not unplug and fall by gravity | 14:35 |
| coderus | it means cable and connector is okay | 14:35 |
| Sailor4481 | i see. thanks for reassurance.. | 14:35 |
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| Ezko_ | i lift my tablet from between driveshaft tunnel and the driver's seat by the usb cable | 14:52 |
| Ezko_ | :/ | 14:52 |
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| Sailor4481 | haha | 15:01 |
| Sailor4481 | i hope the port on the jolla is durable | 15:01 |
| ln- | some cables are not as tight | 15:02 |
| ln- | even though it's a standard | 15:03 |
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| cptG | hello! I've noticed that the Jolla touchscreen does not report pressure (I set QPA_DEVDEV_TOUCH_DEBUG=1 and it reported min=0, max=0) - is this a limitation of the device or the driver? How can I find out? Does anyone know the exact name/type of the hardware? | 17:57 |
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| mornfall | cptG: I don't think capacitative touchscreens can read off pressure | 18:13 |
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| mornfall | they could possibly, very maybe, read the size of the conductive spot | 18:13 |
| Yaniel | such possibly, very maybe, wow | 18:14 |
| mornfall | no comment | 18:16 |
| Yaniel | sorry, had to | 18:17 |
| kimmoli | there is pressure, atleast in EVDEV | 18:19 |
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| kimmoli | 0x03/EV_ABS - 0x03a/ABS_MT_PRESSURE - 86 , and this value changes | 18:21 |
| kimmoli | index finger lightly ~70, thumb ~130 | 18:21 |
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| kimmoli | cptG: ^ | 18:22 |
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| coderus | so, touch area, not pressure, right? | 18:25 |
| cptG | mornfall: yep, fake-pressure by area is fine by me, I did not know that about capactive TSs. thanks for the info! | 18:25 |
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| cptG | kimmoli: hrm... qt only looks at ABS_PRESSURE, not ABS_MT_PRESSURE in the evdevtouch plugin so I guess this is the difference... | 18:28 |
| cptG | why I'm actually looking into this: in QML's TouchPoint, the pressure AND the area are always zero / an empty rect and I wanted to know why and if maybe I can find a workaround somehow :/ | 18:29 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, isn't ABS_MT_* for Multitouch ? | 18:31 |
| cptG | coderus: touch area would be equally useful to me, I wanted to implement a simple paint app as my first SailfishOs project and already am stuck at this technical limitation :( | 18:31 |
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| cptG | kimmoli: sounds like it but a git grep ABS_MT_ in qtbase sources does not reveal anything along the lines of pressure... but looking at the following file suggests that at leas for the touch panel built into Jolla there *could* be ABS_PRESSURE - if it wasn't commented out in the module's source ;) | 18:33 |
| cptG | https://github.com/keesj/alps-fairphone-gpl/blob/master/mediatek/custom/common/kernel/touchpanel/ft5316/ft5316_driver.c | 18:33 |
| cptG | ...the official release tarball is downloading ATM so I don | 18:33 |
| cptG | 't know if the situation is the same in the current kernel sources | 18:33 |
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| cptG | kimmoli: did you read the ABS_MT_PRESSURE value via ioctl or is this accessible via sysfs somewhere? | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | atleast evdev has only these ABS_MT_POSITION_X=0 [0,1100] ABS_MT_POSITION_Y=0 [0,1900] ABS_MT_PRESSURE=0 [0,255] | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | i used evdev_trace | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | with -t it actually traces | 18:38 |
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| cptG | kimmoli: sorry for nagging you with questions but I could not find any evdev_trace or evdev* on my Jolla - I know it's part of the mce sources but that's all i could find - do I need to install anything to get it? | 18:48 |
| coderus | evdev_trace preinstalled on my jolla | 18:51 |
| kimmoli | mce_tools ? | 18:51 |
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| coderus | ah sure, in mce-tools :D | 18:51 |
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| cptG | D'oh! Could've thought of that myself :) | 18:59 |
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| cptG | kimmoli: coderus: thanks a lot for the info! | 18:59 |
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| kimmoli | finally, pizza delivery took 2 hours. guy said that everyone ordered at once... 2 days shops closed, no wonder. | 19:29 |
| raa700 | =) | 19:30 |
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