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merlin1991hm what was the solution to constant sim loss when pressure is applied to the back of the phone?11:07
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phdeswermerlin1991: afaik sending it in for repair?11:10
merlin1991:/ not exactly an option for me11:11
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coderusmerlin1991: try cleaning your sim with some alcohol and rubber11:13
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ln-merlin1991: sadly, replacing the sim slot is the solution.11:14
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alifakhruddinHello there.11:18
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TemeVmerlin1991: you can also try to jam the switch that detects the sim11:34
TemeVIt is in the corner that is cut11:36
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trigpointHow do I answer "What version of android are you running?"12:52
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Ezko_"version 666"12:52
trigpointEzko_ :)12:53
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scottctrigpoint: "Alein Dalvik" >:~}12:58
scottcoof, didn't even spell Alien right!12:58
trigpointAm having problems with the shutter sound (can't turn it off) on the mapillary app, plenty of android users have the same issue12:58
trigpointAdded the comment "Am running on jolla, Sailfish 1.1.2.16.12:58
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trigpointIs the shutter sound really necessary, surely it was a limitation of mechanical cameras. No camera maker actually designed it in."12:58
Stskeepstrigpoint: 4.1.2 atm12:59
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trigpointStskeeps: Thanks, have added that to my comment13:01
kjetilhotrigpoint: I believe it is a requirement by law in e.g. Korea to avoid people sneaking photos in showers etc.13:04
Stskeepsor under skirt stuff..13:05
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trigpointBut all you have to do is turn the volume down, and as its mapillary the phone is inside the car :)13:18
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chem|stStskeeps: looking at new features in other OSs and stuff like OxygenOS or HERE in new Jaguar I started thinking about what is the worst thing in a vehicle and what would I need to have changed... especially what would sfos need to be IVI capable - any thoughts on that topic yet? What would be your choice of HID? Touchscreen with jogwheel like BMW or a touchpanel like Audi?14:16
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chem|stalso nextgen in-car-networking models (especially the bigger brands have issues on that matter) are lacking security features14:18
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stephgany hints for a brand new user (sadly remote from me otherwise I'd go round there) with a brand new jolla stuck at 1.0.2.5?14:23
stephgshe says her time is good, and can download apps from the store14:24
stephgI don't want to have her enable dev mode (yet)14:25
Wntdate & time correct, can download apps from Jolla store, but doing settings  -> ... -> check for updates does not find any updates?14:27
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chem|ststephg: factory reset, enable wlan, enter jolla account, upgrade to latest version -> then start setting up the phone!14:35
chem|steverything else would need a terminal, could be wrong ssu domain set (!=sales)14:36
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stephgchem|st: it's a brnad new phone14:41
stephgfrom what I can tell her time and date are right14:41
stephgshe thinks they are but I am going to tell14:41
stephgher to check again14:41
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stephgWnt: yes14:42
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stephgany bright ideas how to tickle it into looking for updates14:56
stephgssu ur, re, fl all seen sensible14:58
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Jarestephg: updates are checked from store, so probably delete jolla account->reboot->create jolla account->check for updates would be worth to try15:38
Jareif the network connection and store client itself work atm15:38
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chem|ststephg: ssu re 1.1.2.1615:59
chem|ststephg: version --dup15:59
chem|ststephg: if you are at the terminal already15:59
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chem|stforcefully upgrading... another way is what Jare said16:00
chem|sttry that first16:00
chem|stand yes brand new phones have those issues16:00
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Jarewell i can't really recommend chem|st's suggestion in case you happen to run into problems. Upgrading via store will go through a tested upgrade path to the latest release, which might contain other releases than 1.1.2.16 (i don't remember what were the upgrade steps atm)16:16
Jarethere are also other differences between the official store upgrade and version --dup16:16
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chem|stJare: true16:20
chem|ststephg: maybe try to upgrade to the next one up first, then try GUI upgrade again16:21
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coderusthere is 1.0.3.816:48
coderusand then you can upgrade to lastest16:49
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TMavica1.1.4.28 now17:36
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attahHow? :O17:37
Yanielunsupported commandline trickery17:38
Yanielwhich apparently only works halfway17:38
pp:-) yea it's apparently a bad idea to update from the commandline17:38
attahah17:39
TMavicayes. very bad idea17:39
attahso i guess i'll just wait a bit longer17:39
ppanyway, I guess they'll release if for normal volunteers soon17:39
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schoppenhauerhello. is it possible to add the user that some app runs under to a unix group (specifically, I am triyng to get tinc to work, and the tinc gui runs under a strange user-id 10012 which I cannot add to groups, and I'd like to add it to the group "vpn")18:19
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pphrmn, wonder what's the easiest way to extract some proprietary rpms :-)18:20
* Stskeeps gets out shovel18:20
Stskeeps:P18:20
ppor maybe just rpm -ql & tar, I want to feed e.g. aliendalvik to bomtotal.com :P18:20
ppStskeeps: you want to check this out ;)18:20
ppe.g. here maps for android has cveful libpng :P18:20
Stskeepsyou're about to make my evening very bad aren't you18:21
ppif stuff links to system libs and you keep them updated you shoud be fine18:23
pp... .apk stuff doesn't18:23
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ppnot to mention what gstreamer version some antivirus software had...18:25
Stskeepsyeah, but alien dalvik is practically a small android :)18:25
ppuploading :P18:27
pphttp://www.bomtotal.com/#c5c6e7bba8a131c53c5a530af4b4b49a (may have some google crud)18:28
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Stskeepsmoo Venemo19:09
Venemohey Stskeeps19:09
Venemo:)19:09
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Venemodoesn't this thing look like a giant N9 to you? http://www.asus.com/Tablets/ASUS_MeMO_Pad_7_ME572CL/19:10
Stskeepskinda19:10
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Venemoit has the same shape19:12
Venemoand pillowy curves19:12
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attahmaemo pad? :P19:21
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scottcattah: hehe :D19:46
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dunpvalve make nice pr :)19:48
dunpofftopic but  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Free-Linux-Games-Mesa-Devs19:48
attahnice!19:49
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Sail0rhttp://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-reportedly-dicussing-possible-sale-its-here-maps-division20:38
Mikaelato who?20:39
Sail0rdunno20:42
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r0kk3rzmicrobox would probably buy it20:44
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stephgJare chem|st thanks for the pointers21:27
stephgin the end they independently ssu re'd to now21:29
stephg(I got caught in a meeting)21:29
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eye_aany news on - Mitakuuluu21:52
eye_areturn21:52
eye_a?21:52
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fennekki?22:03
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ShinryuuI think it's dead22:13
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