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* Oksana has just supported Octodon... 79th backer... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/octodon/octodon04:30
OksanaI know most of you are most likely using - or going to use - qwerty TOH... But take a look at the tactile pads ;-) ^04:30
zuttohmh, that looks kinda cool04:38
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Nicd-Oksana: problem is it takes up a huge part of the screen05:16
Nicd-and it looks clunkier than tohkbd05:16
Nicd-and no horizontal mode?05:17
OksanaYou can rotate it however you want respective to mobile, and I think that you can program any app you want, if you do not like how their on-screen app takes up too much space.05:18
OksanaYes, it's clunkier, I think.05:19
Nicd-well, I don't like that the on-screen keyboard takes up any space, to be more exact05:19
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OksanaBut, if it is intended to be used by all 10 fingers at the same time, it's not supposed to be horizontal.05:19
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OksanaMaybe, you could tell on-screen keyboard to be invisible, once you get used to the device and do not need any hints.05:20
Nicd-doesn't look like it's gonna meet its kickstarter goal05:20
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OksanaThat's why I am trying to advertise it. They apparently failed at promoting themselves ;-)05:20
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zuttofrom their demo videos, i can just tell that its not going to be any faster from typing than your average physical qwerty you can attach to your phone06:20
zuttoplus all that learning curve and things ;l06:20
zuttobut, for the sake of having more unique products in the market, that thing should exist :P06:22
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TemeVThat thing has a nice idea, but I don't really want to learn to type again once more :)07:06
TemeVAlready learned it with traditional phone, traditional phone with t9 and with touch screen07:07
Oksana;-)07:07
TemeVI hope with tohkbd it will be close enough to touch screen typing so there is no real learning curve07:08
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stephgthere's something fabulously ironic in that the only FB friends I can see right now in Friends are vgrade, sledges and Marc Dillon07:54
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sledgesFriends will be Friends:)08:02
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stephghehe08:06
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tadzikhah, updating the OS but not disabling the patches leaves me with MPRIS in Media, but no lockscreen controls. Win-win! \o/08:13
ggabrielnpris? lockscreen controls?08:14
ggabrielwhat is this magic?08:14
tadzikMPRIS is the dbus interface that music players use to be remote controllable08:14
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ggabrielis that all coming in media with the latest and greatest?08:15
tadziklockscreen controls is a set of buttons and labels you can have on your lockscreen08:15
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tadzikno, that's a patchmanager patch08:15
ggabrieloh, gotcha08:15
ggabrielthanks :)08:15
Sail0rboah08:17
Sail0rmy damn jolla is rendering it self useless08:18
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Sail0reven when deactivating the calendar which makes problems08:18
Sail0rit's still firing reminders08:18
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Sail0rand I don't know how to stop it doing that08:18
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tadzikggabriel: thank coderus :)08:25
Sail0rok interesting even when calendar is deleted08:29
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fluxa colleague has some issues with the upgrade.. apparently he gets no unlocking screen but on the other hand he only gets the normal background image and can get to the notification view. and that's it.08:30
fluxwell, I'm not using device lock so maybe I dare to upgrade.. soon ;)08:31
sjtoikyou should08:31
sjtoikuse it08:31
the_mgtdevice lock never borked any update for me08:32
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the_mgtand yes, you should use it08:32
Temethat octodon looks really nice08:33
Temetalk about patchmanager reminds me.. will there be one that works with the new versions?08:33
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Temeat least since the last version (not Äijänpäivänjärvi) the patches haven't worked and the app is unable to remove any of them08:34
Temenot that it matters because they are not in effect anyway... but the app is messed up08:34
TemeVflux: I had the same issue. My tries to fix it only made it worse so I made the factory reset08:35
fluxtemev, did you have device lock enabled beforehand?08:35
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fluxor did you have any special warehouse-stuff installed08:37
flux(colleague did not)08:37
TemeVI had device lock, but I doubt it is related to that08:39
TemeVSome warehouse stuff but not much08:40
TemeVWarehouse is scary so I removed it :p08:40
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TemeVI might have had some patches, I usually don't remember to disable them. Though I haven't been using much of them lately either08:41
MikaelaI find patches too scary to try them, but I have used some apps from Warehouse without issues except the alien dalvik remover which lead to factory reset08:41
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coderusbtw, in today live stream i will talk about patchmanager and patches. you want to watch it if you scary patches :D08:49
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coderusi see many peoples do not understand what patchmanager and patches doing exactly08:55
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TofeWhen I try to sync my google contacts two-ways, I always get the following errors in the journal from google-contacts-client: enforceDetailConstraints:2545 "Invalid detail type: 0" and ContactWriter::save:2414 "Error updating contact sql-xxx: 3"; all this ends up with ContactWriter::syncUpdate:4881 saying that it gives up. What could help solving this ? I'd like to avoid recreating all my contacts...09:44
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Tofe(it's not a new problem at all, I think contact sync never quite worked for me)09:47
coderusare you on 1.1.4.29?09:47
Tofeyes09:48
coderusso, collect logs and backtrace and fill a bug then :)09:48
Tofenever reflashed the device ever since dec. 2013, while being early tester :) I'm a lucky guy!09:49
coderusbecause you can't flash Jolla? :D09:49
Tofecoderus: I think it corresponds to https://together.jolla.com/question/45961/two-way-syncronization-of-google-contacts-not-working-properly/09:50
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coderusprobably, i'm not using google sync myself09:59
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Nicd-Tofe: I have the invalid detailtype too10:23
Nicd-and my google contacts don't sync10:23
Nicd-they only sync a couple of times (if I reset the contact system) and then stop syncing10:23
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TofeNicd-: looks like it's nothing new https://gist.github.com/Nicd/96f004461f05f63c917110:53
Nicd-hehe, forgot that was still there10:56
Nicd-I went over it with chriadam|away I think, and there were fixes coming for it. don't remember if they were in 1.1.410:57
Nicd-been thinking maybe I should just reset and try again10:57
Tofeyes, we can find the log here http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/%23jollamobile.2015-01-29.log.html10:57
TofeI think the problem is just overlooked each release10:58
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KabouikSettings/System/Sailfish OS updates says that I'm currently in version 1.1.2.13 Yliaavanlampi, instead of 1.1.2.16. Couldn't it be the reason why I can't seem to get the 1.1.4.28 update, despite my subscription to the opt-in program?11:40
mornfallmoreover 1.1.4.x is in its public phase now11:41
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KabouikYep, but I know it can take some time to reach my Jolla with OTR.11:45
KabouikBut as I'm in the opt-in, I should definitely have had it already, I think11:46
KabouikIt's the first time I receive the email from Jolla about the update before actually updating. And it seems my Jolla shows a wrong version number for the previous update, I suppose it's related11:46
Kabouik-OTR +OTA, sorry11:47
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LiekeOTR takes time too, though11:54
ggabrielKabouik may have another problem though...11:54
ggabrielsilly question: does the store work?11:55
xfade__Kabouik: because it is not an officially supported release, you won't get an update notification11:55
KabouikThe store does work yes ggabriel11:56
KabouikYep Lieke, but with the opt-in, I should have had it already I think11:57
Kabouikxfade__, that's my concern. Any idea on how to solve that ? ssu re 1.1.4.28 didn't help11:57
xfade__Kabouik: it should. ssu re 1.1.4.29; version --dup11:57
KabouikLet's try that11:58
Kabouikas nemo?11:58
KabouikIt's slowly refreshing, we'll see if it does the trick12:01
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coderusxfade__: any info why ssu mode not changing mode?12:35
coderusit will be good to do ssu mode 16 befode versioin --dup, but it's just not working12:36
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coderus before*12:37
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dv_hi12:41
dv_is it possible to get some sort of uart access? my phone is bricked, and I need to see whats going on12:41
Stskeepshow bricked? recovery mode not working?12:41
dv_I could reset to factory defaults, but need to somehow make a backup of everything12:41
dv_telnet is working12:41
Stskeepsthen you can backup over netcat likely12:41
dv_but when I try to boot, I see the jolla logo, then the screen goes black, then the LED goes dark12:42
dv_I think something happened in the latest update12:42
Stskeepstry pull battery for 30 seconds to a minute and see if it helps12:42
kimmoliscp over usb to host-pc worked for me12:42
zuttoor pull it out and press the power button for few seconds12:42
dv_pull it out ,wait 30 seconds, put it in, press power button for a few seconds?12:42
zuttopull out, press power button for few seconds (discharges everything), put it back in12:43
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dv_no, still nothing. jolla logo appears, then disappears, then LED goes white, then LED goes dark.12:44
Stskeepsok, sounds like a good start for backing up and factory resetting12:45
dv_now the problem with scp is that I essentially have to backup the entire /home directory, since I don't know whats really relevant for the apps12:45
Stskeepsif that fails too, contact care12:45
dv_is this what you do? scp /home ?12:45
Nicd-that's what I'd do12:46
Stskeepsmkdir /mnt12:46
Stskeepsmount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt12:46
Stskeepscd find /mnt/@home12:46
dv_can I ssh to the usb ethernet device that appears when I press volumedown + power?12:48
Stskeepsno, telnet only12:48
dv_then how could I use scp?12:49
Stskeepsscp to your own machine12:49
dv_from where?12:51
dv_oh you mean I should use the shell in telnet mode?12:51
Stskeepsyes12:51
dv_but this voids warranty12:51
Stskeeps'may' void warranty12:51
kimmolirequires that you have ssh server on your pc12:52
dv_yeah, makes sense12:52
dv_mount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt <- is this for copying to an additional SD card ?12:52
dv_I do have one in the phone12:53
dv_oh, got it. nevermind.12:54
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Stskeepsi helped get the telnet mode into that recovery menu, you're doing the right thing :)12:56
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dv_tar czf /extmmc/nemo-bak-2015-05-06.tar.gz nemo <- thats running now12:56
dv_hopefully its enough12:56
dv_btw, I think my battery life ran out while updating ..12:57
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dv_hopefully this incomplete update didnt break the factory reset12:57
ggabrieldv_: very unlikely12:58
ggabrielnever update without plugging the phone to the socket :)12:58
dv_OK, tar is now done13:01
dv_lets pray thats it13:01
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ggabrieldv_: do a tar tzf in your computer and double check that you have the hidden dirs in /home/nemo13:01
ggabrielsuch as .cache13:01
ggabrielyou should have13:01
ggabrielbut just in case :D13:01
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dv_alright, seems to work!13:03
dv_now, afterwards, just copy everything back to home?13:03
dv_or are there any files in /home which should not be overwritten?13:03
ggabrielyeah13:03
ggabrielnah13:03
ggabrielworst case scenario, you factory reset again13:03
dv_ok13:04
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Tofe(that's the good thing with already being in the worst case scenario: you can't break it more)13:05
ggabrieloh, you can always break it more!!13:06
ggabrielyou could do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/mmcblk0p2813:06
Stskeepsdon't do that13:07
ggabrielor you could kick the phone as hard as you can out of the window13:07
Stskeeps:P13:07
ggabrielthat would certainly break it13:07
entilif you do that, there's some probability that you'll get a new operating system out of it13:07
entilit's not a particularly large probability13:07
kontiofor sure not 'windows' :D13:07
ggabrielprobably skynet13:07
ggabrielwithin the small probability, that is13:07
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entilbut in order for skynet to become active, there needs to be more than one node or it's a pretty lonely part of it :D13:08
entil"uhh.. guys? you around? how about world domination?"13:08
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entiland then tofe shuts his phone off13:08
Tofeentil: I never shut it off. If it wants world domination, well, what could I possibly do?13:10
entilyou sure got a point there13:10
kimmoliwrite a small shell script?13:10
Tofesystemctl disable world-domination.service should do the trick13:11
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Tofemaybe even mask it, in case it reboots13:12
entilunfortunately due to systemd bugs it restores the world-domination state13:12
TofeAh. Well, at least I tried!13:13
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Kabouikxfade__ I ran version --dup from Fingerterm. It was really slow so I let it work alone. Now when I try to unlock my Jolla, I see the wallpaper, but no shortcut icons at the bottom, and I can't swipe to restore running apps, or scroll down to show the launcher. I'm not sure the version --dup is finished. Is there a way I can check that? I don't want to hard reboot the Jolla if it's still updating13:14
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ggabrielKabouik: ssh in?13:14
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sjtoikit's pain to wait bash to initialize, if the system is flipping meatballs13:15
KabouikI'm on Linux right now, I guess it's simpler to ssh in than with Windows, but I've never configured it yet. How should I proceed, and then how can I check whether Fingerterm has finished?13:15
ggabrielyou have to enable ssh in dev mode13:15
ggabrielhopefully you can still access settings?13:15
KabouikIt's done already, I often ssh from Windows13:16
KabouikI just don't know how to ssh from Linux13:16
sjtoikdo you know the ip of the phone?13:16
ggabrielssh nemo@[ip address]13:16
KabouikYep, I should have it somewhere in Filezilla13:16
dv_well, everything looks broken now. the UI is working properly, but fonts have the wrong color, only the basic apps are there ...13:17
KabouikName or service unknown, with ip 192.168.2.1613:17
dv_so the idea with /home wasnt that good :/13:17
sjtoikdo you have right network setting in wlan?13:17
sjtoikor are you using usb cable?13:17
KabouikI'm with USB, but wait, I kept the brackets around the ip :D13:18
dv_I copied over the saved nemo folder in the telnet shell13:18
Tofedv_: you restored /home just after a factory reset?13:18
dv_yes13:18
KabouikNow I don't have the error message, like if my terminal is working, but nothing happens13:18
Tofedv_: you should first upgrade to the same OS version you were when you did the /home backup13:19
ggabrieldv_: i may have forgotten to mention that it's best to upgrade first13:19
ggabriel_but_13:19
KabouikI suppose I should be asked to type my nemo password ggabriel13:19
ggabrielwere you up to the latest version before?13:19
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ggabrielKabouik: yup13:19
KabouikNo luck then13:20
minimecKabouik: Try 'ssh nemo@Jolla' If you did not rename the phone and if your router is smart... it should work.13:20
sjtoikKabouik: it will promt about the password, but if the phone is busy, that initialization takes a while13:20
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dv_ggabriel: this was between upgrades13:20
dv_there was an interruption during the upgrade13:20
Tofeggabriel, dv_: I guess it may work also when OS version is greater than the one he was when he did the backup, but that's just a guess13:21
Kabouik@jolla doesn't work minimec. With the ip it looks better, but no prompt13:21
minimecKabouik: 'J'olla13:21
KabouikSame13:21
dv_I'll retry and upgrade first13:21
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neghi, is there some documentation around I can read on how to pull in never versions of system packages? I wish to test a newer version of buteo-sync-plugin-carddav13:27
minimecKabouik: Install nmap and check the local network for ips with 'nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24'. If the phone is connected, it should be listed.13:30
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dv_this is really weird. the PIN entering screen is black, except for the phone symbol. the theme color is red for some reason13:34
dv_apparently there is text, but it is black. on a black background.13:34
dv_I'll try to copy the nemo folder from @factory-home13:34
KabouikIt says "Host is up" for every ip scanned minimec13:34
KabouikI guess I'll have to hard reboot and cross my fingers in the hope that version --dup had finished its work. I'll wait the end of the day before doing so, just in case13:37
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minimecKabouik: For me the command 'nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24' gives me this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10997271/13:37
coderusKabouik: you have router? open it web interface and check connected hosts in LAN statistics page or DHCP leases13:37
Tofedv_: I thought factory reset would already wipe /home content ?13:38
KabouikSame for me minimec, for all 216 IPs scanned13:38
KabouikNo coderus, I'm at work, connected to the Internet hrough wifi currently (well, I should have the connection from the Etherne wire, interesting...), and the Jolla is connected to my laptop directly by USB13:39
minimecKabouik: Problem is... The Jolla phone doesn't show up, even though it is connected... So information is not reliable. As coderus stated, you will have to verify on the router.13:39
KabouikI don't have access to it13:39
dv_aaargh!13:40
dv_"[ERROR] Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing."13:40
Tofedv_: huh? what does that mean?13:41
coderusKabouik: then use recovery13:41
dv_Tofe: I get this error when I try to do a factory reset13:41
coderusKabouik: you had some patch activated before doing version --dup?13:41
KabouikAlright coderus, minimec! Just got into my Jolla through SSH. Changed the USB port, nmap again on 192.168.2.0/24, and here it is: 192.168.2.1513:42
coderusdv_: Tofe: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode-13:42
KabouikI'm in. Just don't know how to check if version --dup is over now13:42
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coderusKabouik: answer my question about patch13:42
minimecKabouik: Nice ;)13:42
KabouikOh *** yes coderus, forgot that. I surely had patches13:43
coderusKabouik: okay, can you tell which ones? and do you have internet in your jolla now?13:43
Kabouikping gives me "unknown host www.google.com" so I guess no13:43
coderusKabouik: your pc is linux?13:44
coderusthen you can use internet over usb with iptables magic13:44
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KabouikI had like a trillion patches, namely the smaller icons on launcher, events view (with a swipe inside the menu to show the toggles), and, hem, I'd have to think about it 2 hours to give you a full list :p13:44
KabouikLinux13:44
coderusbut anyway i need to list of your active patches for homescreen category13:44
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coderusKabouik: better just do ls /var/lib/patchmanager/ausmt/patches13:45
KabouikIndeed. :D13:45
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KabouikLet me paste the list online13:45
KabouikWeird, hastebin doesn't work anymore in my browser. http://pastebin.com/NAJKAqK513:47
coderusokay, so can you setup ip forwarding on your pc and use internet on jolla via usb yourself or you need a guide?13:48
KabouikI'm afraid I need a guide13:49
KabouikCan't I enable 3G data connection from the commandline? I even think I have a script for that, that I put in the Jolla for the diptoh13:50
dv_"Q: When attempting to perform option #1 Device Reset, I get an error "Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing". What should I do?" "A: For some reason it seems your device was unable to retrieve the file from the Memory Card."13:50
coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/58975/network-sharing-from-pc-to-phone-answered/13:50
dv_what file?13:50
coderusKabouik: maybe you can even connect to wifi via commandline, some connman dbus13:51
KabouikNope, can't connect to the wifi with the Jolla, it is not supported unfortunately :(13:52
Tofedv_: the "recovery-menu" file, in chapter 3.213:53
dv_I did copy that over13:53
dv_it still shows that error13:53
dv_whats even more strange is that I already did a factory reset earlier, worked fine13:54
dv_perhaps it reset to an earlier jolla version13:54
dv_oh! now all of a sudden I see the setup screen. thats good.13:56
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tadzikheh, I thought linux is bad at MTP13:57
tadzikwindows 8 cuts all connection with a phone few seconds after connecting it, including power transfer13:58
coderusKabouik: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntwkgrupbffw116/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.24.41.4-10.75.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjb38ol0smsa7t1/jolla-settings-system-0.2.33-10.44.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s69c5z3nnijvm3p/jolla-settings-networking-0.2.52-10.52.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 ...13:59
coderus... https://www.dropbox.com/s/jl9s60vl1mqeul0/jolla-settings-bluetooth-0.0.50.1-10.19.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=013:59
coderusdownload, put to phone, and install13:59
KabouikOh, so I don't need to follow the guide you gave me?13:59
coderusguide13:59
coderus?13:59
coderusah, no14:00
KabouikNetwork sharing14:00
coderusjust get these packages14:00
coderusshould be enough14:00
KabouikOk, great, downloading right now14:00
dv_can I skip the tutorial?14:00
coderusit will take more time to setup networking14:00
coderusdv_: yes14:00
dv_how?14:00
dv_there is no indicator or button14:00
coderustopleft topright bottomright bottomleft14:00
dv_ah, thanks14:00
coderus:)14:01
kimmolicoderus: about the mervncserver, i can get screen (and thumb) visible, but on mouse events (can't click/drag)? is there any tricks? (tested realvnc and tightvnc)14:02
coderuskimmoli: works for me with no tricks14:02
coderusi'm using ssvnc, connected to just ip with none mode14:03
KabouikIt's all installed code14:03
Kabouikcoderus14:03
coderusKabouik: systemctl --user restart lipstick14:03
kimmolicoderus: ok, this device has broken touchscreen. maybe it is broken really O:o14:03
coderushaha, broken to the kernel :D14:04
dv_okay, now I am updating *first* , and *then* I will try to restore /home14:04
kimmolievdev_trace shows input events though14:04
KabouikStill the same wallpaper with no icons and no way to scroll down to the launcher coderus :(14:04
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coderusKabouik: it's not possible :D14:05
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KabouikThen I just divided the world by zero coderus :]14:05
KabouikAnd made it possible by opening a vortex to Cthulhu's mum.14:06
* kimmoli wonders where are all EV_ABS coordinates, just EV_SYN's visible14:06
coderusKabouik: you installed all 4 packages? btw, what sailfish version you using?14:07
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coderusKabouik: and install this one also then: https://www.dropbox.com/s/th3fe7ljxnlg4gr/jolla-settings-0.11.67.1-10.33.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=014:08
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kimmoliheh, there is no touch input device in /dev/input/14:11
KabouikI installed all coderus. My version is, well, I dont really know now, that's what led me here in the first place: I was in 1.2.13 (despite being opt-in), after I stupidly used version --dup for the previous update. I followed Aard advice on "TJC" to fix it by typing "ssu re 1.1.4.28", no luck. Then I was told here to do "ssu re 1.1.4.29; version --dup", which I did, but that's where I lost lipstick, and I don't know if the update process is over so14:11
KabouikI'm afraid of rebooting14:11
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KabouikSorry for the long explanation :<14:11
KabouikCannot download your last file, Error (5xx) on Dropbox14:13
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KabouikFinally got it, issue persists14:19
KabouikI notice that when I restart lipstick, a warning appears at the top saying that I'm running low on space. I had not this warning before the version --dup. Now I'm afraid the update failed due to full memory usage.14:20
coderusKabouik: probably14:22
coderusas root do btrfs fi show14:22
coderusan probably sudo journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick | tail -n 30014:22
coderusto know whats wrong with it14:22
Kabouik/dev/mmcblk0p28 is full, like, FULL.14:23
Kabouik13.75/13?7514:23
Kabouik-? +.14:23
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Kabouikhttp://pastebin.com/GJCQLcP314:25
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coderusyeah, problem is in full filesystem14:34
coderusdo balance and come again :)14:34
coderusi will afk for a while14:34
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Sail0rcool Investigate WiDi/Miracast on the Tablet14:53
Sail0rhttps://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ in Q314:53
Sail0rand finally WPA Enterprise support  "!!!!14:53
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chem|stSail0r: that is 6 months away... and I doubt it will be ready in Q315:09
Sail0rI know15:09
Sail0rmany rhings from Q1 are not implemented yet15:09
chem|stbut the list is a nice read nevertheless15:10
Mnsusupport for those common wifi networks should have been there from the start15:12
chem|stMnsu: support is there but glue in the UI is missing15:13
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Mnsufrom what I've read on tjc, at least eduroam has been some trouble to configure even from the terminal15:15
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dv_ok, yes, the earlier factory reset resetted to an older version, which explains why I saw all kinds of funny UI issues when I copied my saved /home15:21
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dv_now its back on, and I am updating to the latest sailfish version15:21
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chem|stMnsu: you need to know that the stuff is case-sensitive then you are fine15:24
temmi_fooi want eduroam15:25
chem|stdv_: bad idea to copy your /home over another release version than the one you saved it from15:25
chem|stdv_: it is a bad idea to just copy your /home at all actually (learned it the hard way)15:26
chem|sttemmi_foo: need help?15:26
temmi_foochem|st: not really, i just wish i had eduroam account and whatever is necessary to read papers without hitting paywall15:27
chem|sttemmi_foo: what university are you at?15:27
temmi_foonone, which is the problme15:28
temmi_fooaflkasdjf15:28
temmi_fooproblem15:28
chem|stdid you ask your local uni-IT department for an account yet?15:28
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chem|stsometimes it is enough to register as guest to get at least eduroam, free papers is another topic though15:29
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temmi_fooi could do that though15:32
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temmi_fooell-i cooperative is mostly doing research collaboration15:32
KabouikWell my Jolla is definitely full, and can't get anything better with btrfs balance. It shows 13.75/13/75 GB. It was not full before the "version --dup" command. Where are the files temporarily stored for the update? I could delete them15:34
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TemeVwhat df says?15:36
TemeVI mean if it is really files or just btrfs metadata15:36
Kabouikhttp://pastebin.com/dBnR2A2Y TemeV15:36
TemeVyeah, it is definitely full15:37
KabouikIt was not before I ran "ssu re 1.1.4.29; version --dup". I'm afraid the command line filled it as hell, and then aborted. I'd like to remove what it downloaded, and then make sure the device is not bricked because of failed update15:38
TemeVI don't know where the downloaded files are, but you can try du -h --max-depth=1 to find them15:40
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KabouikNot sure how to identify which folder contains the update with that commandline TemeV. It shows which folders are large but...15:42
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TemeVyeah, then you can go to that folder and find the large one again :)15:44
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TemeVnot really civilized way to try to find them, I know :)15:45
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KabouikI'm sure someone here knows where the temporary files are cached during a version --dup, before I manually investigate every single folder :p15:47
coderusKabouik: so, balance not freeing space?15:47
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KabouikAnyway, I'm still not sure I can delete them and hope my Jolla will work again, it's likely that the update started, but aborted :( It still shows 1.1.2.13 in the terminal.15:47
coderusKabouik: ssu re shows 1.1.2.13?15:48
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KabouikI balanced recently already, could not improve here coderus15:48
KabouikNo, ssu re shows 1.1.4.2915:48
KabouikBut I get that when I ssh: nemo@192.168.2.15's password:15:48
KabouikLast login: Wed May  6 16:03:44 201515:48
Kabouik,---15:48
Kabouik| SailfishOS 1.1.2.13 (Yliaavanlampi) (armv7hl)15:48
Kabouik'---15:48
minimecKabouik: What we see on your pastebin link is, that your android apps and data are taking a lot of space. Maybe uninstall that android support once. That might clean up a lot...15:50
coderusKabouik: find /var -type f -name "*.rpm"15:50
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KabouikHow can I see which app exactly takes much space minimec? I guess I have downloaded maps for Here, or somthing like that15:51
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Nexus_of_ConcordHello.15:52
KabouikI find lots of rpm with that command coderus15:52
minimecKabouik: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ls-command-sort-by-file-size/15:53
KabouikMany in /var/cache/zypp15:53
TemeVminimec: how can you see that?15:53
TemeVbecause what I see is /dev/mmcblk0p28 is full15:53
coderusKabouik: delete tmen15:54
coderusthem*15:54
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coderusKabouik: you have sdcard?15:55
KabouikYes coderus15:55
KabouikCan I delete the whole zypp directory?15:56
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Nexus_of_ConcordThe male connector of my Jolla's USB cable is bent - I want to get it replaced before it damages the phone's micro USB port. Can anyone tell me what category should that request on Jolla's Zendesk beM15:56
Nexus_of_Concord*?15:56
minimecTemeV: You're right. I was misdirected with all these 'alien' folders...15:57
coderusKabouik: no, delete contents only15:57
Kabouikrm /var/cache/zypp/*.rpm then15:58
coderusNexus_of_Concord: Repair?15:58
coderusKabouik: yeah15:58
coderusalso you can move your pics/videos to sdcard15:59
KabouikI seem to remember I tried once15:59
KabouikAnd never got it to work15:59
Nexus_of_Concordcoderus: Isn't repair for repairing the phone itself?16:00
coderusNexus_of_Concord: so, your cable is broken, not connector on phone?16:01
coderusKabouik: what you mean?16:01
Nicd-Nexus_of_Concord: why do you need jolla to replace the cable? or is it under warranty?16:02
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KabouikNo success with rm /var/cache/zypp/*.rpm or rm /var/cache/zypp/"*.rpm", even with the -rf argument the files are still there. I'm root.16:03
Nexus_of_ConcordThe phone is okay. The cable's male prong thing is bent and only connects if it's at an angle. Photo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z617wbndh25lojb/20150505_010.jpg?dl=016:03
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Nexus_of_ConcordAnd yes, got the phone in February so the warranty is still in effect.16:03
coderusKabouik: what it says?16:03
Kabouikcoderus I had tried to set the SD card as the storage location for the camera app, but did not get it working (the only way implied duplicates in the gallery app if I recall correctly). I'll retry someday but cannot do that today16:04
coderusNexus_of_Concord: contact for repair, and care will redirect your question if needed16:04
coderusKabouik: i mean just move all your picrures files manually now16:04
Nexus_of_ConcordThanks.16:04
KabouikWith -rf it says nothing but the files are still there, without -rf it says "no such file blah blah"16:04
coderusto free space16:04
minimecKabouik: As you have ssh acces to your phone, you should be able to do something like <ctrl>l in your Filemanager and enter 'sftp://nemo@192.168.1.15' to access the phone. then backup whatever you want.16:04
coderusKabouik: cd /var/cache/zypp/16:04
coderusrm *.rpm16:04
Kabouikrm /var/cache/zypp/*.rp16:05
KabouikOups, wrong copy patse16:05
coderusKabouik: cd to folder and ls to be sure you doing it right :)16:05
Kabouik[root@Jolla zypp]# rm *.rpm16:05
Kabouikrm: cannot remove `*.rpm': No such file or directo16:05
KabouikCrap, I'm so stupid.16:06
KabouikThe rpms are in subfolders. Sorry for being so dumb.16:06
coderusyeah16:06
coderusi se you doing something simple wrong16:06
KabouikI've already set Filezilla to sftp my Jolla minimec, but thanks for the tip, didn't now I could do that directly from the filemanager16:06
KabouikLet's save pics already, right16:06
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KabouikWell sorry coderus, really not a commandline wizzard. At all. :[16:07
coderusnot a wizard tip, just check what you doing :)16:08
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KabouikI had people talking to me in the office and didn't want to make you wait, so I did stupidly wrong. And ended up wasting even more of your time, but well16:08
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coderusinternet is patient :)16:10
KabouikSo, all rpms are in distinct subfolders in /var/cache/zypp/packages. May I delete the whole /packages/ folder?16:12
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coderusyou can remove packages subfolders16:13
KabouikThere are like a billion :o16:15
Kabouik/packages/ is the lowest level common subfolder16:15
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coderusyou can do rm rf packages/*16:15
Kabouikrm: cannot remove, no space left on device. Infinite bad luck loop. :]16:16
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Mikaelasounds like need of btrfs balancing and you must "echo > <bigfile>" before "rm <bigfile>"16:17
fennekkiyeah you gotta trunc the file16:18
KabouikI'm trying to delete all pictures from sftp, but it fails too :<16:18
coderusi have a trick16:18
coderuswhile [ "$?" != "0" ]; do rm -rf packages/*; done16:19
coderus:)16:19
coderusit helped me16:19
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KabouikAnd btrf balance did not change any chunk with dusage from 0 to 40. I tried without dusage, as expalined in the TJC guide to btrfs, but it's running since two hours now I I can't cancel it. I'm pretty sure it won't free space anyway because I balanced really recently already (successfully, this time)16:20
coderusi had same situation, just without lipstick crash :D16:20
kjetilhowhile ! rm -rf packages/*; do echo retrying...; done16:20
KabouikStill the same error coderus16:20
coderusKabouik: i might write it wrong, no log saved16:21
coderustry kjetilho code16:21
KabouikSame16:21
coderusit should do infinite loop until done16:21
coderusdo not stop it16:21
kjetilhoyour code will never start unless previous command had failed16:21
KabouikIt does loop yes16:21
coderusKabouik: so wait it16:21
coderusit should take a while16:21
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KabouikI'm concerned about many issues at the same time though. To sum up after this long journey: version --dup probably failed, cancelling btrfs balance using 'btrfs balance cancel /'  does not work, lipstick is crashed, Jolla is full.16:23
KabouikSeems like a bad situation :D16:23
coderusKabouik: yeah, you can stop balancing with reboot16:24
coderusbut you need to free jolla to fix it16:24
KabouikThe loop keeps going16:24
coderuswait more16:25
TemeVmaybe try echoing to a file in a loop16:25
coderusprobably balancing slows it16:25
KabouikAt least lipstick is not heavy on cpu right now :D16:25
coderusTemeV: it's same16:25
TemeVcoderus: yeah, but sometimes echoing goes through easier than rm16:25
coderustruncating file is not helping in this case16:26
TemeVmaybe16:26
coderuswell, you can try. i'm just saying about my previous experience16:26
coderusand Kabouik situation looks exacly same16:26
TemeVok16:27
KabouikUnfortunately I'll have to leave ://16:27
coderusKabouik: also you need to save pictures and do the same for pictures folder16:27
KabouikCan I pause everything and try again tomorrow, or should I let the Jolla wired to my laptop for the night?16:28
coderusKabouik: you can reboot to shop balancing, and start a loop for the night, it should complete16:28
KabouikI saved the /home/nemo/Pictures folder, but can't delete the old one for the same reason16:28
coderusyeah16:28
coderusyou can start two loops in separate ssh16:29
KabouikWith the crashed lipstick, will I be able to enter my Pin code and ssh again?16:29
coderusKabouik: no, you will reinstall it properly and it will show up16:29
KabouikNo but I mean, if I reboot to stop tbe btrfs balance, won't I be stuck with no lipstick?16:30
KabouikAlso, the btrfs guide on TJC says: "It has also been observed that if your device reboots during the balance, it is triggered to run automatically after the reboot again." That's wrong then?16:30
coderusKabouik: probably it will16:30
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coderusKabouik: it's about built in balance service, not about manual running one16:31
coderusyou can try to kill btrfs process?16:31
KabouikOh ok16:31
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KabouikI only tried btrfs balance cancel /16:32
coderustry to kill process16:32
KabouikNo I have 4 ssh sessions :d16:32
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coderusno?16:33
Kabouikkillall btrfs ran without error as root, but no change on the two ssh sessions running 'btrfs balance start /' and 'btrfs balance cancel /', they are still working16:34
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KabouikThere are several btrfs processes running: btrfs, btrfs-transacti, btrfs-worker-4 (several instances), btrfs-submit-116:35
coderustry killall -9 btrfs16:36
coderusor different codes16:36
Nicd-killing processes interacting with the filesystem doesn't sound wise16:36
KabouikSame anyway16:36
coderusNicd-: it stuck16:36
Nicd-how do you know?16:36
coderusbecause it already running for hours16:37
coderusof cource letting it 24 more hours may help16:37
KabouikThe cancel is supposed to take only one or two minutes to actually cancel16:37
KabouikAnd it's been running since more than an hour too16:37
coderusKabouik: anyway, you can continue later with recovery, if can't ssh vi wifi ot usb after reboot16:38
KabouikI have to go folks, sorry, I would have liked fixing that now, especially as you're currently spending time on my issue and it's very valuable16:39
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KabouikSo coderus, do you advise me to hard reboot and start over tomorrow, despite the full memory and crashed lipstick? Leaving my laptop and phone here is not very convenient, I admit it16:39
coderusKabouik: yeah16:40
KabouikFine16:40
coderusyou can always use recovery later16:40
KabouikI'll sue you anyway if not.16:40
Kabouik:]16:40
coderusif you do not want to save contacts or something more, you can even do factory reset later :)16:40
KabouikI'd like to fix my Jolla before trying resets, there are so much things tuned inside...16:41
KabouikContacts are easy to save, but in app settings and so on, factory reset is really my last resort :p16:41
KabouikPlus apps themselves.16:42
coderusyeah16:42
KabouikThanks a lot to all of you for your time. Will be back to annoy you again. :D16:42
coderusso, next tim you need to start this script to free up space16:43
KabouikYes, I'll try at home tonight if I can16:43
KabouikFor /packages/ and Pics16:43
KabouikSee you, thanks again folks!16:44
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fluxcan jolla currently reasonably use 64GB memory cards? yes, if you use ext3/4/btrfs?17:26
Liekeyes17:26
fluxbut that doesn't work out-of-the-box?17:26
fluxiirc there was some android-related permission issues17:26
flux..and maybe you need to mount it specially?17:26
YanielI don't use the android stuff17:26
Yanielext4 works out of the box17:27
Yanielbtrfs too but I didn't want to bother with rebalancing17:27
fluxjust umount, mkfs, remount and then it works?17:27
flux(..or maybe prepare the filesystem beforehand)17:27
Yanielbetter prepare the fs beforehand17:27
fennekkibtrfs pretty much only needs rebalancing if you have small filesystems, in my experience17:27
fluxalso, what kind of speeds have people received?17:27
fennekkithat are constantly low on space17:28
Yanielyou probably have to kill the automount systemd service17:28
fennekkiwell, I guess big filesystems low on space too17:28
Yanielbut if you have a ready formatted card, just plug it in17:28
Yanielit mounts it automagically17:28
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fluxI actually used Jolla for setting up RPi2 headless install a while back in a pinch, worked fine :)17:30
fluxand there the hotswap worked as expected17:30
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* cb400f looks around for frustrated people, before proceeding to install the 1.1.4 update17:43
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raa700go for it, you know you want it sooo bad17:47
raa700also, haven't seen any reports of sh*t hitting the fan17:48
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cb400f:-)17:52
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fluxso does the size of ~/.vault ever go down?18:01
raa700yes, when you clear it18:02
flux..clear as in.. ?18:02
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fluxsimply remove backups from settinsg and it should reduce in size?18:04
fluxI guess I may have accidentally backed up the gallery then in the previous backup, as I removed all but the last two :)18:04
fluxthough it sure doesn't look like that when I look at the git log.18:05
fluxI don't quite understand how it should even remove anything.. everything git logs show should be there, right? and it doesn't seem to remove anything from the git.18:07
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coderus#SailfishOS live stream about patchmanager starting right now: andreykozhevnikov18:11
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fluxwell, it does _seem_ to me .vault size never decreases, until when I removed _all_ backups and the directory got recreated18:19
fluxalso what 'live stream' does coderus refer to?-)18:20
fluxah, twitch18:20
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kimmoliflux: it is a git repo, so everything is incremental change, until you delete repo (?)18:50
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fluxkimmoli, well, not quite19:00
fluxit tries to keep big files out of the repo proper19:00
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fluxbut I don't how see how it leverages that to remove the binaries.. if it even tries19:00
fluxhere's the repo: https://github.com/nemomobile/vault/19:01
kimmoliyep19:01
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Fusli can't use the display on my jolla phone anymore. only the swipe to close/put in background/notifications work, but not when i try to interact with an app19:11
Fuslhappens in *ANY* app19:11
Fuslall apps have been closed already and restarted19:11
Fusle.g. mail doesn't work, messages, phone, ...19:11
Fuslany idea whats wrong?19:11
Fusl(btw i can interact with the notifications, but for example not even with settings anymore)19:12
Teguoh, that's happened to me as well once19:12
TeguI just rebooted19:12
Fusli know reboot fixes this because i had this issue alread19:12
Fuslbut i want this bug fixed so i don't want to reboot and debug this now19:12
Tegubut I could go to apps from the launcher19:13
Tegubut not from the cover view19:13
Teguand the covers stayed on the same position behind everything19:14
Fusli can interact with the "desktop" (running applications overview, app launcher, etc.)19:14
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Fuslif someone wants to debug this, please reply, i have plenty of time to go through debugging and have developer mode + ssh enabled19:17
Mikaelahav you tried searching/posting tgether.jolla.com ?19:18
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FuslMikaela: how would you describe this bug?19:21
Fusl"[BUG] Bug found: Bug."19:21
Teguyou just described it a few moments ago19:21
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MikaelaI have no idea, I haven't eperienced it, but ^^19:22
Tegudoes this link work? https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/roskaa/20150422082118.png?_subject_uid=16404117&w=AAC69ctSjQSLmtRlSe0e8WiMWfCF8G5Ww9FNbzQOFmXlag19:22
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Fuslerror 40319:22
Tegublah19:22
Teguhere goes https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16404117/roskaa/20150422082118.png19:23
TeguI had actually posted that picture here earlier when I got that bug19:23
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Fuslis strange because i can type on the keyboard in a message19:24
FuslTegu: lol19:24
Fuslwell that didn't happen for me... it just looks completely normal as if the phone has no bugs19:24
Teguthat cover actually shows another screenshot19:24
Fuslbut you just can't interact with an app19:24
MikaelaI have experienced that too actually. All apps were on top of the covers and I am not sure was I able to open covers or apps, but some of them wasn't possible19:25
Mikaelathey also went on top of lock sreen and I rebooted and haven't seen it since then19:25
Teguyea, they stayed on the background all the time19:25
Fuslstrange19:26
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Fuslhttps://together.jolla.com/question/91638/faulty-bug-touch-not-working-inside-apps/19:26
Fuslhttps://together.jolla.com/question/76536/bug-no-app-touch-input-focus-but-in-lock-home-launcher/19:26
Teguiirc I tried to open twitch and then some app got killed and it went like that. not sure about details19:26
MikaelaI think I was switching out of FBReader, but I do that multiple times daily without issues19:27
Fuslsomeone aware if and how i can disable the jolla boot screen and instead show a normal linux boot log when i turn on the device19:29
Fusl?19:29
Mikaelathat would be nice, +119:29
Fusl(splash screen)19:30
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coderusNew #SailfishOS patch for removing notifications by swipe. Done in realtime during live streaming: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-eventsview-notifications-remove-swipe19:56
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politieNicNice20:17
oodakohas anyone managed to sync egroupware addressbook using syncevolution?20:21
oodakoi keep failing :(20:22
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Fusl/usr/bin/messageserver5 is running with 100% cpu usage, maybe that causes issues, Mikaela  & Tegu ?20:23
Mikaelathat says nothing to me, sorry20:23
Fuslhttps://scr.meo.ws/snapshot/2015-05-06-22-23-31-C9kaAXd9.png20:23
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Fusloh god20:24
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MikaelaIs anyone aware of Skype or some equivalent (VoIP app) that is native to Sailfish? Preferably not SIP as I never learned to use that and now isn't the time to learn20:25
Mikaela":o ... Either the screenshot/paste is currently uploading or you b0rked it ... (just try to reload the page)"20:25
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Fuslfor whatever reason my jolla phone now has a load of 70 and is flooding my network O_o20:26
attahkimmoli: w00t?! http://www.sharpsde.eu/download/LS013B7DH06-002-wSCREEN2png20:26
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kimmolihttp://www.sharpmemorylcd.com/1-33-inch-memory-lcd.html20:30
attahyes :)20:30
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attahunfortunately not available anywhere yet20:31
attahstill.. i ordered a regular on +rfduino to get started20:31
attahnow all i need is a percentage ;)20:31
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r0kk3rzroll your own smartwatch20:36
r0kk3rztbh i just want a normal watch that i can use as an authentication token, and vibrates/led when i get a notification20:37
attahr0kk3rz: that's the idea20:38
attahfirst part..20:38
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keesjI got a mail about Äijänpäivänjärvi being available but I don't see any updates on my phone20:46
keesjany clue where to look?20:47
coderuskeesj: what is your current version?20:47
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keesj1.0.2.520:50
dv_my jolla is working nicely again, with Äijänpäivänjärvi now. me happy. :)20:52
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keesjcoderus: should that work?21:02
Stskeepskeesj: sounds odd that you're stuck on 1.0.2.5, could you send a mail to care?21:03
Stskeepsjolla.zendesk.com21:03
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keesjI did a factory reset and signed in again(downloading 1.1.2.16 as we speak)21:19
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bennypr0faneHi guys, how do I ssh to the Jolla when connected via usb?21:25
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bennypr0faneI don't know which IP address it's supposed to have21:26
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bennypr0faneI can't look it up on the device, bcs I probably have this: https://together.jolla.com/question/91260/help-11429-almost-bricked-my-device/21:27
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r0kk3rz192.168.2.15 via usb usually21:29
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bennypr0fane...also I may or may not have set ssh to listen on a non-standard port :-(21:31
bennypr0faneneedless to say I don't remmeber which one21:31
bennypr0fane:-P21:31
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bennypr0faneshouldn't it be possible to sort of assign one from the pc?21:32
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bennypr0faneIs it possible to get to root Jolla's file system over normal usb host connection?21:34
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r0kk3rzdo a port scan then21:36
bennypr0faner0kk3rz: great idea! How do I do that?21:36
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r0kk3rznmap21:37
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bennypr0fanewait, something I don't get there: I must first assign an IP address to the Jolla before I can communicate with it, right?21:44
bennypr0faneThat means I need to edit the properties of that network connection?21:44
bennypr0faneI'm looking at these instructions now: https://together.jolla.com/question/1919/howto-connecting-to-jolla-via-ssh-over-usb/  I'm on Kubuntu Pc though21:44
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r0kk3rzdefault is 192.168.2.15, so you will need an ip in that range21:49
bennypr0faner0kk3rz: you mean for the pc?21:49
r0kk3rzyes21:49
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bennypr0faneI don't understand that, bcs the pc already has an IP from my home router. Can it assign a) itself a b) different address on the usb network?21:50
bennypr0faneor would it be getting that IP from the Jolla?21:51
* bennypr0fane 's head is spinning21:51
r0kk3rzits a different interface, so it has different ip21:52
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r0kk3rzit could already be assigned via rndis, but maybe not21:52
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bennypr0fanebut what I need to do is assign an IP to my pc, yes? not to thew Jolla?21:52
r0kk3rzyes21:53
r0kk3rzthe jolla should be 192.168.2.1521:53
bennypr0faneok, how do I do that?21:53
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bennypr0fane_see, there I went again...22:06
bennypr0faneI'm in hooray!22:07
bennypr0fanehello22:07
bennypr0fanejust checking if I'm still online22:07
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bennypr0fane_Is there a way to disable all openrepos-repositories at once?22:12
bennypr0fane_I have like 30 enabled22:12
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coderusBasilSemuonov: why?22:13
coderussotty22:13
coderusbennypr0fane_: why?22:13
BasilSemuonovcoderus, ;)22:13
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bennypr0faneshouldn't there be a way to modify the ssu dr command in such a way that it gets applied to all repos starting with "openrepos-"?22:16
coderuswhy?22:16
bennypr0fanecoderus: I haver this problem: https://together.jolla.com/question/91260/help-11429-almost-bricked-my-device/22:17
coderusdisabling repos does not save you22:17
coderusrepos are just repos22:17
coderuscheck btrfs fi show first22:18
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bennypr0faneYou suggest in this thread to disable the patches repo22:18
coderusi didn't commented in this thread22:19
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bennypr0fanebtw do you see any I could have the usb connection to Jolla active while keeping the pc's internet conecction alive as well?22:19
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coderusi see no problem in it22:20
coderuswhat is your pc os?22:20
bennypr0fanecoderus: oops, you are correct. simo said that you made comments, but you dind't. My Pc os is Kubuntu.22:20
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coderusso, you using kubuntu and can't fix your connection? :D22:21
bennypr0fanethe problem is as soon as my usb network connection to Jolla is active, my internet connection (cable) drops)22:21
bennypr0faneIt just stops working22:21
coderus:D22:21
coderuswaht is your eth0 configuration22:22
keesjbennypr0fane this snounds like a network manager problem22:22
bennypr0fanefrom file:///etc/network/interfaces: auto lo22:22
bennypr0faneiface lo inet loopback22:22
bennypr0fanecoderus: not sure if you mean that by configuration?22:23
coderusand usb0 is auto?22:23
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bennypr0fanecoderus: usb does not show up in that file.22:23
coderusthat file is not used22:23
coderuscheck networkmanager22:24
bennypr0fanecoderus: you mean open the gui, or...22:24
coderusyes22:24
coderusclick on that network icon in systray22:24
bennypr0faneyep, I get to choose between the connection 2 (internet) and 3 (Jolla)22:25
coderusdelete your wired network nad usb from list22:26
coderus and reconnect cables22:26
coderusand*22:26
bennypr0fanedelete both ethernet and sub?22:26
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bennypr0fane*usb22:27
coderusyes22:27
bennypr0fanetghen I'll be offline, yes?22:27
coderusyes22:27
coderusreconnect cables and let them use automatic dhcp22:27
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bennypr0fanewell this was fun22:44
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coderusso, works?22:46
bennypr0fanenot really.22:46
bennypr0fanecoderus thing is, my pc gets a static IP from the router22:46
bennypr0faneit's 192.168.2.13922:47
coderuslol22:47
coderusthen change jolla to 1 or 322:47
coderusah, you cant because it not working22:47
coderusthen change router settings22:47
bennypr0faneI wonder if I should put the same one for the usb network, or whether it has to be different22:50
bennypr0faneOr I might change the static one on the router so that it's on a differnt subnet22:50
bennypr0fanebcs this one is on the same as the Jolla. Do you think that might the cause of the connection problem?22:50
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coderusit should be different subnet22:51
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bennypr0faneis it possible that the router can only assign IP adresses on its own subnet? i.e. the router has 192.168.2.10, ergo it can't give my pc 192.168.3.x,  or 192.168.1.x, but only 192.168.2.x ?23:00
coderusof course23:05
coderusyou need to setup router dhcp to other subnet23:05
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bennypr0fanehttp://pastie.org/private/mzjtii5uum7u2gt7go0pa23:11
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bennypr0faneabout my router question, was that a "of course the router can do that" or "of course the router cannot do that"?23:12
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coderusof course it can. open router web interface and in lan dhcp settings change subnet23:19
coderusyeah your phone is full23:19
coderustry doing balance manually23:20
coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/23:20
bennypr0fanecoderus how long would you estimate that takes?23:23
coderus2-24 hours23:24
coderusyou can try to remove/move something big to sdcard23:24
coderusand then balance will take less23:24
bennypr0faneI can't even do this myself! this is way too complicated!23:25
coderuswhat you can't do23:25
coderus?23:25
bennypr0fanefigure out how to do this whole operation23:25
bennypr0faneit seems for pros only23:25
coderusjust start with removing old data, rpm cache, moving proto and video to sdcard23:25
coderusand then to balance23:26
coderusif you read whole page you understand there is just one command you need to execute and wait until it finished23:26
bennypr0faneyeah, and I have to do all that in the command line, because can't use Jolla display23:28
bennypr0fanehow am I gonna find out which files to delete?23:29
bennypr0faneI don't know where to start looking.23:30
bennypr0faneGiving up for tonight, bedtime23:30
bennypr0faneThanks for all your help23:30
bennypr0faneGood night!23:30
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coderusjust delete what you know23:31
chem|stcoderus: he is gone23:31
coderusold installs, old music/video you do not need23:31
coderuschem|st: yeah :|23:31
chem|stbut well we can add android to the list23:31
coderusand nobody reading history of course after returning...23:31
coderuschem|st: wrong window? or i don't understand what are you talknig about :)23:32
chem|stcoderus: list of things to delete23:32
coderusyeah :)23:32
coderuscan anyone tell sailfishos names on R and Å which was skipped updates?23:33
chem|stpeople tend to install offline maps and just download until the device says "no space left on device"23:33
chem|stcoderus: no clue23:34
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chem|st Åsgard?23:34
coderus:D23:34
coderuscool one23:34
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raa700probably Raa'anjärvi and Åkantträsket23:38
raa700http://www.jarviwiki.fi/w/index.php?title=Luokka:Nimi&from=%C3%85 taken from this site, lake&sea wiki23:39
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