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Stskeepsfrom meizu's ubuntu page: The goods for the sale, expected to start shipping within weeks10:15
Stskeepsof the goods for the developer preview version, the official Meizu purchase recommended that ordinary users to exercise caution10:15
Stskeepsin the commodity software systems maintained by the Ubuntu developer Canonical, Meizu technology to provide service only hardware problems10:15
Stskeeps(http://store.meizu.com/product/mx4_mon.html#2-1-2 )10:15
r0kk3rzgoing to put sailfish on it Stskeeps?10:17
Stskeepsit's a locked down phone, not sure why i'd be interested in it10:17
r0kk3rzoh10:17
r0kk3rzthats a shame really10:18
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phdeswerdr_gogeta86: any luck with your mass-storage export of the sd-card?11:47
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, how much cost mx4 ?12:10
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Stskeepsno clue, it's only sold in china anyway12:10
dr_gogeta86i don't think so12:10
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Stskeepsatm12:10
r0kk3rzlooks like the harbour FAQ is out of date12:10
r0kk3rzstill says you cant use qtpositioning12:11
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, in italy 379 euro12:12
dr_gogeta86MTK MT659512:12
dr_gogeta86will it works ?12:12
kimmolir0kk3rz:  ? wut12:13
Stskeepsyou'd have to ask #ubuntu-touch12:13
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dr_gogeta86libhybris12:13
r0kk3rzkimmoli: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#Shared_Libraries << scroll down a bit to the status list12:13
r0kk3rzalso gstreamer is now available12:14
kimmoliYou can find a list of the currently allowed libraries in allowed_libraries.conf.12:14
kimmoliqtlocation is not available, qtpositioning is12:15
kimmoliavail/allow12:15
Stskeepsfaqs are not always correct12:15
Stskeeps:P12:15
kimmolilibaudioresource please...12:16
r0kk3rzlooks like i was getting confused between qtlocation and qtpositioning anyway12:16
r0kk3rzbut the note about gstreamer should be removed12:16
dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, i think a key will be a programmer heaven12:18
dr_gogeta86actually just iOS is pretty streamlined12:18
dr_gogeta86we create a software in house for iOS and android12:18
dr_gogeta86still not works well on Android due hw and android forks12:19
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coderusMitakuuluu3 Pre-Pre-Prerelease :D http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9550815:25
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Hellehmmm, managed access to the live data of my heart rate monitor15:32
Hellepondering if I can write some interesting app around that15:32
Yanielmake the ambience highlight colour pulse15:32
Yanielin sync15:32
Helleheh15:33
Hellemore thinking "how does one fitness app"15:33
Hellebut yes, a joke app might be interesting aswell15:34
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r0kk3rzbeat tweeter15:46
r0kk3rztweets every heart beat15:46
r0kk3rzalso a way of letting people know you're still alive15:46
Yaniel"no tweets for over a minute he must be dead"15:47
Yaniela while later: "sorry guys, had some network issues on the train"15:48
Hellehehehe15:50
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Minos`Hi18:44
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MinosI’m having trouble with my Jolla: I put it in my pocket earlier today, and when I took it out it was permanently locked18:45
falfalast time i put mine in my pocket, when i took it out it was gone18:46
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Tegu:<18:46
MinosXD18:46
falfahopefully locked too18:46
MinosSo, the thing is, wifi is still activated and I still have ssh access with a working devel-su18:47
MinosI was wondering if I could do anything with this?18:47
falfathat is an interesting question18:47
tbryes can be fixed, needs a jolla employee18:49
tbrit's sunday though18:49
svuorela"permanently locked" ?18:50
tbrsvuorela: max tries exceeded18:50
svuorelaoh.18:50
tbrsvuorela: aren't you a sailor?18:51
svuorelaI'm just a passenger.18:51
tbrk18:51
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svuorela...but maybe I should send a privateer application when my current assignment is up.18:52
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Minosok, so if anyone wanted to know, you just have to vi /usr/share/lipstick/devicelock/devicelock_settings.conf and set maximum_attemps to -118:59
Minos(found the answer there: https://together.jolla.com/question/91297/how-to-recover-from-permanent-device-lock/)18:59
Minosdumbest feature in the world, btw19:00
MinosIt would make sense if the jolla had a decent device lock, which it doesn’t have19:00
svuorelahow would one recover if one didn't have root ?19:01
MinosWell device locking does’n apply to ssh and developper mode19:01
Nicd-Minos: if it's the dumbest feature, why did you set a limit for the lock code? :P19:01
MinosWell in lost of devices, the limit only locks your device for a certain amount of time19:02
Minosnot forever19:02
Minoslots*19:02
Accelong enough lock time would indeed be enough19:02
MinosAlso, I didn’t expect my jolla to type 10 times some random code followed by "Submit" while being in my pocket19:04
Nicd-I set the limit to 50 for that reason19:04
MinosI mean, the screen locking feature must be REALLY bad for that to happen19:04
Nicd-but reading these reports, maybe I should set it to unlimited... :P19:04
MinosWell it sucks for security, but yeah, I don’t really see any other option :D19:05
YanielI seem to have more trouble getting it to register any touchscreen input in the first place19:05
r0kk3rzMinos: i would check the operation of your prox sensor19:13
Minosthe little thing on the upper right corner ?19:14
r0kk3rzyes19:15
MinosIt seems to be working since I can’t unlock my phone by touching the screen if it’s hidden19:15
r0kk3rzyou can test it with mce-tool19:15
japa-fiI have a small issue with patchmanager: when I select patchmanager from settings, it just keeps loading and loading, never starts.19:20
japa-fiAnyone come across the same?19:20
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coderusjapa-fi: start jolla-settings from terminal and check what is wrong19:21
japa-fias root or regular user?19:21
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tbrMinos: with developer mode and ssh on, you have no expectation of privacy19:23
tbrMinos: aka, certain things are less or insecure, like you found out19:23
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japa-fiStrange: started it via terminal. Too much text. Closed the app, decided to ssh into jolla for better terminal.19:24
japa-fiStarted the application, everything works!19:24
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coderusjapa-fi: :D19:25
japa-fiNow it works, even when started from settings menu19:26
Minostbr: you still need to know the ssh password, and that would work only on the few home wifi networks I have registered :D19:26
MinosBut yeah, I expect there are other flaws19:26
coderusinstall two-factor authentication pam module for ssh :D19:26
tbrMinos: it used to also enable usb-networking, but IIRC that's now off until you unlock the screen19:28
Minosoh, useful19:29
tbrMinos: also depending on your ISP the phone might be reachable by SSH from that side, haven't checked if there was an iptables rule19:30
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MinosI don’t see any iptables rule nor anything in /etc/hosts.deny19:34
Minosalthough my ISP only routes 10.* IP addresses, so nothing to fear from that end (apart from the ISP itself)19:35
Minos(but why would they need to access my phone when they already transmit all my unencrypted text messages and phone calls???)19:36
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coderusnot they, any sers of your network19:37
coderususers*19:37
MinosWell I expect the ISP’s routing policy to forbid that19:38
MinosBut I actually never checked ^^'19:38
temmi_moomany isps don't actually do any kind of filtering unless you actively pay for that19:39
temmi_moothey'd need to do ingress filtering on the client edge routers or service access points and that's kind of expensive compared to not filtering any19:40
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MinosOK this is just fucked up, my device just perm-lockd itself again19:40
Minosit was just laying on the table19:40
Nicd-dude, se it to unlimited :D19:41
MinosI did19:42
MinosI set it back to 10 and the deviced unlocked itself19:42
MinosBut it seems that everytime I lock the phone, it goes directly to permanent lock19:43
Minosthe only way to unlock it is to change the value of maximum_attempts in the appropriate file19:44
Minos(even setting it to a lower one does the trick, btw)19:44
Nicd-set it to unlimited, don't set back to limit19:44
MinosSetting it to unlimited doesn’t prevent the phone from going to permanent lock19:44
coderuswhy?19:45
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Minoswell, I don’t know :D19:46
MinosBut it seems that rebooting it solved the problem19:46
* Nicd- sets his device lock tries to unlimited...19:51
Nicd-I guess the code is long enough to do that19:52
coderusNicd-: only numbers?19:57
Nicd-coderus: yep. but I'm mainly worrying about simple crooks that try to unlock it by typing with the keypad19:58
coderusyeah :)19:58
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sakustarr0kk3rz: the screen still opens in pocket if power button goes down. so probably not related to proximity sensor20:47
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