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Venemo_jhm, I suddenly have 4G on my jolla06:25
Venemo_jvery suspicious06:25
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Stskeepsmaybe mobile provider upgraded you06:31
Venemo_jmaybe they did06:32
Venemo_j:)06:32
Stskeepsi love LTE, the low latencies are quite nice06:34
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Venemo_jindeed06:35
Venemo_jpretty cool06:35
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Venemo_jbut how's power consumption?06:35
Stskeepssometimes it feels better since latency is lower on web requests06:35
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pphrmn, this is weird, my mac now gets ipv6 from my cable operator, but my linux desktop (and jolla over wlan) don't...07:47
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ppsome dhcpv6 thing apparently, but seems to need some magic to get it to serve something07:47
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mornfallpp: you want radvd actually07:56
mornfallpp: wait, you mean mac as a osx box... behind the same router as the rest?07:58
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ppbridging so it's all from the operator router08:22
pptcpdumping shows some dhcpv6 action from the mac so that's why I suspect I might need it08:22
pp(used to have radvd + tunnel running locally)08:22
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ppbut then again it's all not supposed to work "yet", so might be in some pseudo-state08:23
mornfalldhcpv6 is odd08:23
mornfallis your ISP doing v4 NAT on their side?08:23
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MikaelaI think Jolla doesn't support IPv6 tethering yet, but hwne it does, I think it should use SLAAC + the DHCP bit to ask DHCP for other information including DNS servers08:30
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* pahartik notices "Jolla Mobile IPv6"08:51
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pp5 real ips, nat by cable box if you want09:12
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Accepahartik: https://blog.nytsoi.net/2015/05/20/the-future-is-now-ipv6-dual-stack-with-sailfish10:26
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pahartikAcce: Acknowledged11:09
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pahartikAcce: I should probably upgrade "Sailfish Linux" to latest version11:12
tadzikHmm, how does OOM app killer actually work? Try swapping, and if that doesn't work kill it with fire?11:14
tadzikIt's recently hard for me to even hit 9 apps at the same time, especially when android apps are involved, perhaps bigger swap would help ?11:16
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Nicd-I can't even use 3 apps + browser for more than 15 minutes11:18
tadzikIf time matters it seems like something's leaking memort11:20
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Teguand sometimes it kills other apps on the background (nice to find the irc client being killed after browsing for example). sometimes it just goes all out and kills every app11:47
Nicd-it never seems to kill the phone app for me though11:50
Nicd-maybe that's special somehow11:50
Tegumight be. I only have it open when I'm calling so I don't know11:51
tadzikMakes sense for it to be special11:51
Acceafaik the phone function processes have über priority12:01
Acceyesterday I was listening something from youtube and recording a track, I got a call and both were killed instantly12:02
* cb400f sends good vibrations in the general direction of the TOHKBD team12:02
Acceit's somehow over emphasized, probably because people have missed calls when the calling functions started too slowly when low on memory12:03
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Nicd-I always keep the phone app open, it's quicker to call that way12:04
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tadzikEhh, no matter how many times I remove and add my twitter account, it still shows me content from 2 months ago12:18
tadzikIs this debuggable?12:18
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rszhi, after the update to latest sailfish release, I have got this http://postimg.org/image/47aa596pp/ can this be resolved somehow?12:55
rszalso my hindi font on the phone also broke, tried installing couple of times, but the phone restarts with red (once) and green lights blinking..12:56
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cb400frsz: what happens if you "long tap" those exclamation marks and re-add those settings shortcuts (also by long tap)13:27
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rszit says remove from favorite13:27
rszshould I?13:28
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cb400fworth a try, you can re-add favourites by long-tapping your favourite settings modules13:30
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cb400fhopefully when you re-add them to favourites they will have their proper look13:31
rszafter long tapping & removing... the ui has become normal! :-) thanks cb400f !!13:32
rszcan you help with this: http://postimg.org/image/4q3p069lr ?13:32
rszeverytime I install the rpm or pkcon, the phone reboot.13:33
cb400fwhich rpm are you installing? .. maybe it has some reboot thingy in the post installation scripts13:34
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rszthis one: https://openrepos.net/sites/default/files/packages/657/abki-lohit-ttf-fonts-1.0-4.armv7hl.rpm from here: https://openrepos.net/content/abyzthomas/indian-language-fonts-sailfish13:35
rszI tried installing 3-4 times, first time it rebooted with a red light blinking, after that every install post reboot, I got green light blinking13:36
rszbut the keyboard font never got installed...13:37
Mikaeladoes Aptoidewant to update Facebook and then complain about "no apk found" for anyone else?13:37
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rszcb400f: another screen shot indicating an unnamed text input keyboard: http://postimg.org/image/75dy3kjdr13:43
cb400fhmm... those openrepo thingies are not "official", tested stuff13:45
cb400fdoes 'rpm -q abki-lohit-ttf-font'  imply that the package is installed?13:45
rszit worked fine on older sailfish versions, the current version somehow misconfigured it...13:46
rszit says not installed13:47
rszrpm -qa | grep lohit also returns nothing.13:48
cb400fhmm.. maybe get in touch with the package maintainer if possible, and ask him to update the package for the latest Sailfish13:50
rszok.. thanks for the help! :-)13:50
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FIQHi, is there a way to disable a WPA password for internet sharing on the jolla?15:42
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FIQI tried to simply blank the field, which just resulted in "The password must be at least 8 characters long"15:42
Stskeepsdon't think so15:44
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FIQhm... why not15:47
FIQseems a bit silly but w/e15:47
FIQthanks anyway!15:47
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lloydbraunHi, anybody around?16:39
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Sail0rFIQ: why should anyone want unprocted internet sharing?16:43
Sail0rso anyone can use your volume16:44
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Mikaelahttps://openwireless.org/ is one thing that comes to mind and maybe quickly letting someone access the internet or testing some WLAN issue if it happens with only encryption are some things that come to mind16:47
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lloydbraunIs there a good method for tri-booting Android, Sailfish, and Ubuntu Touch?17:05
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locusflloydbraun: which device?17:06
lloydbraunlocusf: I have Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4, but I'm willing to get a different device too.17:07
locusfI wonder if gnexus has multiboot17:07
locusferr multirom17:08
lloydbraunlocusf: doesn't look good: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/multirom-t303195917:08
lloydbraunlocusf: is multirom required in order to dual-boot or tri-boot?17:09
locusflloydbraun: afaik yes17:09
lloydbraunI could use the Nexus 4 np.17:09
lloydbraunIs Nexus 5 or 6 better supported?17:09
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locusfnexus 4 and 5 could be equal17:10
locusfnexus 5 is the prime target though17:10
lloydbraunlocusf: you mean equally well supported?17:10
locusfgnexus multirom isn't supported17:10
locusflloydbraun: yes17:10
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locusfI don't remember correctly17:10
locusflloydbraun: visit #sailfishos-porters for details17:11
lloydbraunlocusf: by prime target you mean most actively developed?  Is support there as good as he Nexus 4 currently?17:11
locusflloydbraun: yeah, though I don't know if n4 support has been as active as n517:11
lloydbraunlocusf: you would go with N5 overall?17:12
lloydbraunDoes anything work on the Jolla phone that doesn't work on N5?17:12
locusflloydbraun: personally yes17:12
locusflloydbraun: android support, camera isn't as good but is experimentally supported17:12
locusfhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris17:13
locusffor full support table17:13
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lloydbraunlocusf: not sure whether to grab the Jolla phone or dual-boot on what I have now17:16
lloydbraunI want to give it a fair evaluation but it looks like the ports aren't great with hardware17:17
locusflloydbraun: Jolla phone :)17:17
locusfif its available to you17:17
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lloydbraunlocusf: I'm headed to Spain very soon17:17
lloydbraunIs the Jolla phone sweet?17:18
locusfand your home country has the gsm bands17:18
lloydbraunI'm in the US.  Which bands?17:18
locusfok17:18
locusfthen its 2g only17:18
lloydbraunlocusf: for sure?17:21
locusfyep17:21
lloydbraunwhat a drag17:22
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lloydbraunlocusf: but ported Sailfish work at 3G in the US?17:23
locusflloydbraun: afaik yes17:23
locusfjcbjoe: you remember n4 working for you?17:24
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lloydbraunlocusf: can I install Sailfish to dual-boot alongside he current Android install on my Nexus 4 without wiping it?17:34
locusflloydbraun: don't get me wrong, the porting effort has been going on for a year in July since hadk was released, its has been steadily progressing to more better support17:35
locusflloydbraun: nope, you have to use cm10/11 as your base os17:35
coderusno multirom?17:35
locusfhmm ah yes17:36
locusfwell17:36
locusfto be honest, I don't know as I've not used multirom17:36
lloydbraunAre multirom and CM substitutes?17:36
coderuslloydbraun: #sailfishos-porters17:37
locusfagain, don't know :)17:37
locusfyeah thats the main channel for this :)17:37
locusfthough many of us hang around here too, there are some more knowledgeable individuals than me there :)17:38
lloydbraunOK thanks guys, I think I'll try to switch back to my Galaxy Nexus as my "working" phone and tri-boot the Nexus 4 with Android, Sailfish, and Ubuntu.  N4 looks like have better support than GN.17:38
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* svuorela hands Stskeeps a cup of coffee18:30
Stskeepsthanks, much needed18:32
kimmolipotion number 1264843018:34
temmi_moolove potion number 918:34
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tiwakelove poison song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocWWaPZ_M2s20:02
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Mag-en00bencountered a ringtone bug: tried to use a short audio clip as message ringtone, but it appears that OGG and MP3 that are <9sec long bug out the audio system for a short time. WAVs of any length work. test files for reproducibility: http://gima.iki.fi/random/Short_Ringtone_Test.zip22:55
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Mag-en00bthere really needs to be a bug tracker23:00
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coderusMag-en00b: together.jolla.com23:12
Mag-en00bas i understand that's a place for feature requests to be voted, and then the developers act on the most-voted features. leaving a bug report there that affects only a handful of people would need me, in addition to doing that, to rally a support group of people to vote for my bug report for the developers to even take a look at that23:15
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coderusMag-en00b: post bug in tjc and promote it here and in #sailfishos23:19
Mag-en00book. by promoting, you mean to just post url to it?23:19
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Mag-en00bpromoting bug report: "Short MP3,OGG notification tones dont work": https://together.jolla.com/question/93965/bug-short-9sec-mp3-and-ogg-dont-work-as-notification-tones/23:36
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FIQ<Sail0r> [16:44:06] FIQ: why should anyone want unprocted internet sharing?23:55
FIQmessing with legacy devices23:55
FIQobviously having open wifi normally is a terrible idea23:55
FIQbut imo should be possible to do if you really want to23:55
FIQbut w/e23:56
TemeVI guess it is possible via terminal23:59

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