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citylight2 | hi, I am using the hebrew keyboard by the package hebrewvkbnew-4ar-0.8-1.armv7hl , after the last upgrade the space key disappeared | 09:21 |
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citylight2 | I now look in the /usr/share/maliit/plugins/com/jolla/layouts/he.qml and I don't see a space key | 09:22 |
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xkr47 | anyone experienced that suddenly all applications stop receiving taps - you can still switch apps using swipes from the side but all apps appear as if taps do not happen anymore | 10:57 |
xkr47 | it has happened some 4+ times for me now and the only fix I have found is to reboot the phone | 10:58 |
xkr47 | I tried searching a bit on together.jolla.com but haven't found similar thing yet | 10:58 |
TemeV | xkr47: that happened to me also a couple of times. I've just been too busy (read: lazy) to report it to to tjc | 11:01 |
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xkr47 | I have 1.1.2.16 Yliaavanlampi release, so one behind newest | 11:14 |
xkr47 | wonder if this someone has reported this on tjc already.. struggled a bit to figure out what kind of search keywords to use | 11:14 |
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HtheB | is there a way to trigger an action when closing an app? | 14:00 |
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HtheB | coderus ^ ? | 14:04 |
coderus | HtheB: you can set app.quitOnLastWindowClosed = false | 14:04 |
coderus | and do something on view closed, and then call app.quit() manually | 14:04 |
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* HtheB tries out | 14:07 | |
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SfietKonstantinW | coderus: can't you connect to http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qcoreapplication.html#aboutToQuit | 14:35 |
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Sailor8545_ | hello, when I plugin headphones with integrated microphone into Jolla, it's automatically used instead of Jolla microphone | 14:39 |
Sailor8545_ | how to disable it? | 14:39 |
HtheB | Sailor8545_: .... | 14:39 |
HtheB | thats pretty normal :P | 14:39 |
politie | take it out | 14:39 |
politie | 😂 | 14:39 |
Sailor8545_ | I want to use the headphones function but no microphone function | 14:39 |
Jonni | Sailor8545_: by unpugging your headphone :) | 14:39 |
Sailor8545_ | but I need the headphone | 14:39 |
HtheB | get a headphone without mic | 14:40 |
HtheB | or just remove the mic part from the headphone | 14:40 |
Sailor8545_ | on PC I can choose between external or internal microphone used, I should be able to do in Jolla too, somehow by command line | 14:40 |
ggabriel | erm, removing the mic from the headphone may not work | 14:40 |
HtheB | im sure that there is some way to let the phone think that the headphones does not have mic | 14:40 |
ggabriel | pulseaudio fun | 14:41 |
HtheB | ggabriel: ofcourse, just solder it and make it a normal headphone ;) | 14:41 |
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Jonni | Sailor8545_: you might be able to do it by hacking around audio policyfiles and pulse audio, but I wouldnt recommend it. jusa_ would know better. | 14:41 |
ggabriel | HtheB: eeerrrmmmm, ~20 gbp for a decent pair of headphones... | 14:41 |
HtheB | Jonni: o/ | 14:41 |
Sailor8545 | hm | 14:42 |
HtheB | ggabriel: thats not the point. the point is that you said that it wouldn't work, but it would :P | 14:42 |
citylight2 | Is there a way to wakeup and run a given command? | 14:42 |
ggabriel | HtheB: I say "may", and I said it like that becuase you may just want to tear the mic apart, and that wouldn't work | 14:42 |
Sailor8545 | I expected easy SW solution TBH | 14:42 |
HtheB | Sailor8545: yeah, there should | 14:42 |
ggabriel | Sailor8545: it's easy enough | 14:43 |
citylight2 | we have a mechanizem in the n900 for this | 14:43 |
HtheB | I found an app on Harmattan that would let it switch | 14:43 |
ggabriel | the problem is that you're modifying something that is quite core for a mobile phone | 14:43 |
HtheB | so im sure it should be possible on Jolla too | 14:43 |
citylight2 | 2. when will I be able to search my emails? | 14:43 |
Sailor8545 | ggabriel: then mobile OS lacks core function :) | 14:43 |
ggabriel | Sailor8545: well, it uses pulseaudio, so.... | 14:44 |
Sailor8545 | citylight2: lol | 14:44 |
ggabriel | citylight2: 2. next release? | 14:44 |
ggabriel | citylight2: check the roadmap, that search function is unreleased iirc | 14:44 |
citylight2 | yep | 14:44 |
citylight2 | when will I be able to buy a new battery? | 14:45 |
ggabriel | citylight2: undetermined | 14:45 |
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ggabriel | reopen the battery related question and vote i guess | 14:45 |
HtheB | Sailor8545: here is the source of the Headphone fix | 14:45 |
HtheB | https://bitbucket.org/IlyaSkriblovsky/headphonefix | 14:45 |
citylight2 | I am missing an app to silence sounds when I am in meetings, as they appear in the calender | 14:46 |
HtheB | maybe someone might be willing it to port it to Jolla | 14:46 |
citylight2 | and resume normal when the meeting ends | 14:46 |
HtheB | citylight2: there is silence sounds at the lock screen | 14:46 |
ggabriel | citylight2: like situations? | 14:46 |
HtheB | and otherwise: Situations? | 14:46 |
HtheB | ggabriel: exactly | 14:46 |
citylight2 | I want it to look in the calnder | 14:46 |
citylight2 | calender, not wifi | 14:47 |
HtheB | ask the dev of situations to see if he can add such thing in his app | 14:47 |
citylight2 | if its a "smart" phone it should know I am busy and not bother me | 14:47 |
ggabriel | citylight2: dogs are smart too, but they can't resolve 2nd degree equations | 14:47 |
HtheB | well, then we should call it "not so smart" phone | 14:48 |
ggabriel | now, ask nicely to the situations dev and maybe you get the feature | 14:48 |
citylight2 | no need, I just need a way to wake up when I sense the calender changed according to a dbus subscription | 14:48 |
* ggabriel wonders if the calendars spams the dbus when a calendar event ends/starts | 14:48 | |
ggabriel | you can check the sqlite db in a crontab too | 14:49 |
citylight2 | will a new calender event , generate a dbus message and wake up the OS? | 14:49 |
ggabriel | citylight2: that's easy to check | 14:49 |
citylight2 | cron doesn't work when the OS is idle as I know | 14:49 |
ggabriel | are you sure? | 14:49 |
citylight2 | this what I was told here | 14:49 |
citylight2 | and yes it is easy to check | 14:49 |
ggabriel | that's a dangerous feature anyway | 14:51 |
ggabriel | if i switched it on, my phone would be in silence every day that's somebody's birthday | 14:51 |
coderus | SfietKonstantinW: it does not give enough time to do anything. Probably destructor of main class or ApplicationWindow Component.onDestruction is good also | 14:51 |
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SfietKonstantinW | it really depends on the need | 14:53 |
coderus | SfietKonstantinW: yeah, i'm just suggesting 100% working way for any cases :) | 14:53 |
SfietKonstantinW | coderus: but it's a huge hack :( | 14:54 |
SfietKonstantinW | i don't like delaying application shutdown | 14:54 |
citylight2 | ggabriel: I often have my phone bother me in meetings, then I silence it and forget to resume, only to get criticism from my SO | 14:54 |
citylight2 | I need this | 14:55 |
citylight2 | need to go now | 14:55 |
ggabriel | yueah, i just tell me SO that i'm working :P | 14:55 |
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coderus | SfietKonstantinW: but HtheB needs that seems | 15:03 |
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coderus | also with my way user will see application window closed and won't spot any activities :) | 15:04 |
SfietKonstantinW | yes, and that's the worse: hiding stuff to the user | 15:05 |
SfietKonstantinW | but well, it indeed depends on the usage :) | 15:05 |
coderus | you should hide everything from user, it's the best way to make good application :) | 15:06 |
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jusa_ | fyi Sailor8545 could've done what he wanted temporarily with pactl, after connecting headset on command line: pactl set-source-port source.primary input-builtin_mic | 15:41 |
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* Stskeeps yawns | 18:30 | |
Acce | need a cup of espresso? | 18:30 |
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Stskeeps | probably | 18:31 |
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narchie | so..... | 18:44 |
narchie | where is my | 18:44 |
narchie | tablet? | 18:44 |
narchie | or is it cancelled already? | 18:44 |
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narchie | or in customs? | 18:46 |
narchie | can I pay VAT again? | 18:46 |
Obi-Lan | late | 18:46 |
narchie | oh so can I pay again? | 18:46 |
narchie | neat | 18:46 |
narchie | foxconn empty warehouse | 18:47 |
r0kk3rz | end of july is current estimate | 18:48 |
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Obi-Lan | they sent email about delay in april | 18:50 |
coderus | omg, i almost forget i paid for tablet :D | 18:53 |
baum | coderus: you didn't pay for mine yet...just a reminder :) | 18:53 |
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coderus | is it for real, or is it was a dream, and no jolla tablet exists? | 18:53 |
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protem | what do you all think about the 4:3 AR on it? | 19:18 |
coderus | nothing. i have never used any tablet in my life, so i will be very excited anyway :D | 19:20 |
protem | I suppose only movies will suffer, everything else should benefit | 19:20 |
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coderus | will watch old movies then :D | 19:22 |
Obi-Lan | 16:9 is bit too tall when hold portrait | 19:22 |
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r0kk3rz | hard to pass judgement on a thing i havent seen yet | 19:31 |
coderus | yeah, i like jolla tablet already, my first tablet :D | 19:32 |
mornfall | narchie: traditional jolla scheduling, nevermind :P | 19:33 |
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Obi-Lan | only other I know is 4:3 is ms surface 3 & 3 pro | 19:35 |
tango_ | 16:9 is very practical when reading webcomics | 19:38 |
tango_ | 4:3, less so | 19:38 |
tango_ | most pages are _nearly_ 16:9 portrait | 19:39 |
tango_ | and the 'smartcomic' format is also typically 16:9 | 19:39 |
tango_ | (landscape) | 19:39 |
tango_ | so I would have probably preferred a 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio, but I'll see when I get mine | 19:40 |
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coderus | it's best one! | 19:44 |
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tango_ | best one would probably be something like 14:10 | 19:45 |
tango_ | which is essentially an A4 | 19:45 |
r0kk3rz | screen size is always such a divisive issue | 19:47 |
coderus | jolla tablet have best screen dimension! | 19:48 |
r0kk3rz | wont it be nice when other manufacturers pick up sailfish so we can have more choice | 19:48 |
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coderus | cool :) | 19:49 |
coderus | YotaTablet! | 19:49 |
tango_ | I'm still waiting for my foldable tablet | 19:50 |
r0kk3rz | yotatablet would be cool actually, both proper ereader AND tablet | 19:50 |
tango_ | we're in the III millenium and still engineers haven' t solved the issue of a seamless foldable pane | 19:50 |
tango_ | tsch | 19:50 |
tango_ | and you could put two eink displays on the other side | 19:50 |
tango_ | or something | 19:51 |
RzR | hi do you still use n9 as backup phone ? | 19:53 |
narchie | so still nothing | 19:53 |
RzR | https://twitter.com/RzrFreeFr/status/605461492427816960 | 19:53 |
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RzR | coderus, I just tried here in offline mode and it failed to track | 20:03 |
coderus | RzR: tried what? | 20:04 |
RzR | just walked outdoor and see if gps tracking in offline mode ... I havent used it recently | 20:06 |
coderus | well, i really don't knnow how it working internally | 20:07 |
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RzR | is gps working without agps on android runtime ? | 20:12 |
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phlixi | i have no idea if this is actually a factor, but when trieng, you should give liek 10 or 20 minutes for "the fix", since the almanach has be be downloaded from the satelites | 20:18 |
phlixi | trying* | 20:18 |
phlixi | (without agps) | 20:18 |
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phlixi | but i remember that, 1,5 years ago when i tested, that the jolla connected to gsm even when in flight mode as soon as you activate gps | 20:20 |
phlixi | but that is probably fixed long ago | 20:20 |
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chem|st | RzR: iirc should work as expected, used to be some around 1.0.x versions where 'a'gps was needed for android, what phlixi is referring to should also be fixed some after 1.0.x | 23:00 |
chem|st | RzR: and yes I used my N9 as backup phone when I had to send in my Jolla for repairs, but since Nokia released HERE for android I just look out to have its battery in a good condition | 23:01 |
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HtheB | coderus, are you still here? | 23:52 |
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