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henkhi, today I woke up and my jolla says "dauerhaft gesperrt" which means something like "permanently locked". What does that mean? What can I do now?07:49
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rubdoshenk, did you enter your pin 3 times wrongly?07:52
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henkrubdos: That’s the point that is bothering me so much: I didn’t knowingly do anything with the phone! It was laying on the bed beside me while i was sleeping.07:55
henkI assume it somehow thought the mattress was fingers that entered the security/lock code wrong 10 times!07:55
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rubdoshenk, could be... Did you set up a recovery procedure?07:56
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TemeVhenk: https://together.jolla.com/question/74465/how-to-unlock-permanently-locked-jolla-smartphone/07:56
henkrubdos: i don’t think so, what would I have had to do for that?07:57
rubdosIirc, there's a setting when setting to lock code. But I could be wrong though.07:57
rubdoss/to/the/07:58
henkTemeV: i.e. https://together.jolla.com/question/74465/how-to-unlock-permanently-locked-jolla-smartphone/? the link in the comments is dead …07:58
rubdoshenk, https://together.jolla.com/question/91297/how-to-recover-from-permanent-device-lock/07:58
rubdosI hope you're a bit comfortable on the shell?07:58
TemeVhenk: oh, that was wrong link07:59
TemeVrubdos pasted the correct one08:00
henkrubdos: a little, yes, thank you, I’ll be reading and see what I can do (:08:00
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rubdosDisclaimer: I don't know that this works. good luck :)08:04
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Jonnithat works, as long as you know your lock code and know how to use terminal.08:10
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henkyes, worked fine (:08:11
henkTemeV, rubdos: thank you very much (:08:11
rubdosgreat :)08:11
TemeVnice :)08:12
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random_user_587Hi all! Is there a way to get SailfishOS on Nexus4?09:17
ggabrielrandom_user_587: there is some information in tjc09:18
random_user_587ggabriel: sweet, thanks09:20
random_user_587looks like 'beta quality'09:20
random_user_587fair enough :) i'll give it a shot once I repair my network ^_^09:20
ggabrielwell, yeah, it isn't like google is making any extra effort to port sfos to their devices ;)09:21
ggabrieli mean, they may actually work at a decent speed if they do09:21
TemeV"beta quality" already? I thought it is still alpha :)09:22
temmi_hooit's not something you want for non-geeks to try except possibly under controlled circumstances (ie. you have tested something and give it to someone to try just this one thing)09:23
ggabrielwell, non geeks shouldn't have a smartphone altogether09:23
temmi_hoothey seem to be pretty happy about ismarts, the others are more lacking for nongeeks09:24
temmi_hooandroids get moldy and have software rot and it bloats and doesn't fit in the device any more09:24
ggabrielyou could say the same for ios09:25
ggabrieltry to own the same idevice for >2yr and there you go09:25
temmi_hooah09:26
temmi_hoowell dang09:26
ggabrielandroid suffers the same thing in different ways as some devices are crappier than others09:26
ggabrielget a nexus [latest] today, and it will definitely last you 2 years09:26
ggabrielbut you'll pay the price for it09:26
gabriel9OK, pull up for notifications works again :D09:27
ggabrielgabriel9: \o/09:27
ggabrielhow?09:27
gabriel9duno09:27
ggabrielso it was a sw glitch?09:27
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ggabrielyou upgraded to latest sfos?09:27
gabriel9whole screen was unresponsive and then all started working...09:27
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gabriel9yes i updated and it was not fixed, then again glitch with whole screen and it works. :)09:28
gabriel9Just to stay like this :)09:28
ggabrieli hope so09:28
gabriel9:)09:28
gabriel9when we will get Sailfish 2.0?09:29
ggabrieljuly 31st09:29
ggabrielor #soon09:29
gabriel9And for early adopters?09:29
ggabrielI made a countdown if you need one: https://gagv.org.uk/jollatablet.html09:29
ggabriel(with some help)09:29
ggabrieljuly 31st minus 1 week?09:29
ggabrielor maybe early adopters get it with the early tablets?09:30
gabriel9maybe09:30
gabriel9i now wait for yotaphone with sailfish :)09:30
ggabrieli may buy another jolla since my screen is quite broken09:31
gabriel9i was thinking to get some android and then put sailfish on it but waste of money09:31
ggabrielnot sure about yotaphone09:31
gabriel9you should wait for new Jolla or phone with SF OS09:31
ggabriela new jolla may be too far away in the future09:31
gabriel93 years has passed from first Jolla09:31
ggabrieland my screen may not last that long09:31
gabriel9:(09:32
ggabrielanother device with sfos has to be compelling09:32
gabriel9If you can find it cheap then take it, here i cant find new Jolla...09:32
ggabriel250e is pretty cheap09:32
ggabrielbut ofc that depends on where you are/what you do/etc09:32
gabriel9yes09:34
gabriel9here 250e is monthly paycheck :D09:34
ggabrielufff09:34
gabriel9well more 200e09:34
ggabrielwell, sadly, if you want a cheap phone, just get an android09:34
ggabrieland don't install crap on it09:34
ggabrielor get a dumb phone09:34
gabriel9its not in my case i work in IT and i can earn nicely09:35
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gabriel9but most of the people are strugling... (sorry for any typo)09:35
temmi_hoowhere?09:35
gabriel9Bosnia and hercegovina09:35
gabriel9Guys anyone needs honey? :D09:36
gabriel9I have bees and just got 350kg of pure natural honey :)09:36
gabriel9its cheap 7e09:36
ggabrieli'd get some if i were close to you09:37
gabriel9Where are you?09:37
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ggabrieluk09:37
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gabriel9thats far away, and i think they would not let me to send it...09:38
ggabrielno, i'd spend 10x that in quarantine and fluff09:39
ggabrieli'd need to physically go and get it, and that _may_ be ok09:39
gabriel9i think eu dont let import of food from my country(with good reasons)09:40
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ggabrielyou'll find that it won't be easy for individuals like yourself to produce honey and comply to all EU regulations09:41
ggabrielcoply to? comply with, rather09:41
gabriel9i know, but i will try to export it or something like that09:42
gabriel9we still have clean nature09:42
gabriel9it is a waste to not to use it09:43
ggabrieli'm sure you can eat it :)09:43
ggabrielhoney lasts forever09:43
temmi_hoohoney <309:43
gabriel9what is the price of honey in eu?09:44
gabriel9without any aditives or suggers09:44
ggabrieltry tesco.com for UK09:44
ggabrieland look for "organic" honey09:44
ggabrielthey normally don't put additives in honey anyway, allegedly09:45
zuttosomewhere around 5jewros per liter of honey in finland09:45
zuttoso not that expensive09:45
random_user_587ggabriel: I bought my Nexus 4 in April 2012, and still, nothing really wrong with it (except perhaps not getting Android M on it... but Cyanogen will make it, I hope) (and a tiny tiny crack or scratch, can't tell)09:45
gabriel9zutto, is it organic?09:45
temmi_hooin finland natural honey from wild flowers is not allowed to be sold as organic, it would have to be honey from organically grown flowers09:45
ggabrielrandom_user_587: fair enough, I don't like the reception quality of the last 2 nexus's, nor I like their call quality, nor their build quality09:46
zuttoggabriel: no idea09:46
temmi_hoosame thing for hunted wild animals, not organic09:46
ggabrielzutto meant gabriel9 :P09:47
zuttoyeah, sorry09:47
zutto:P09:47
random_user_587I really dislike the ergonomy of N5 and 6. N4 is just right and also, it was really cheap when it hit ht e market. So all in all, a very good investment at the time09:47
zuttofunny thing about one of the common honeys in funland, x-tra honey is that its produced in china, packaged in denmark and sold in finland09:47
random_user_587(sfos wasn't ready at the time IIRC)09:47
gabriel9i need to read more about eu and organic stuff09:48
ggabrielrandom_user_587: i'd consider an htc made nexus tbh, they have been making phones forever09:48
ggabrieli'd buy a nokia made nexus, but that's impossible09:48
ggabrielsince nokia doesn't exist any more :)09:48
zuttonokia does exist09:48
ggabrielthey don't make phones though09:48
zuttothey will soon09:48
zuttonot directly tho09:48
ggabriel#soon09:48
random_user_587I had a HTC Legend and the latest series (HTC One <whatever>) are really pleasing to the eye09:48
zuttothey bought the alcatel-lucenta09:48
zuttoand they make phones09:49
zutto:P09:49
ggabrielnot the same quality though09:49
ggabrielthey have to start all over09:49
ggabrielhire all staff all over09:49
zuttotru09:49
ggabrielget to the right standard again09:49
zuttoi doubt that they will go directly to making phones anymore09:49
zuttocause its not good business09:49
ggabrielthey should do neural laces09:49
ggabrielmaybe they'll be popular again in 2 generations or so09:49
ggabriel(as in nokia, not the neural laces)09:50
random_user_587I just saw it was possible to run systemd containers in sfos... does SFOS also support android applications ?09:50
random_user_587(answer yes an dnext phone I buy will be sfos powered)09:50
ggabrielrandom_user_587: the jolla has alien dalvik, so yes, i can run android applications09:50
ggabrielbut it isn't available for ported devices09:50
ggabrielsame with maps09:50
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random_user_587ggabriel: only still one phone with SFOS? I must confess i'm not quite uptodate with current development and market of Jolla/SFOS09:51
Nicd-random_user_587: they said they'd reveal a new sfos phone manufacturer this summer09:51
ggabrielrandom_user_587: officially, yes, but it's been ported to a number of devices with different levels of functionality09:51
temmi_hoois systemd container like docker or like jail?09:52
random_user_587temmi_hoo: docker uses containers09:52
random_user_587and they share the same philosophy than jails09:52
random_user_587(FreeBSD user here)09:52
temmi_hoohi there09:52
temmi_hooi've been on freebsd since 386bsd09:53
random_user_587docker is a kind of (really insecure and highly overrated) wrapper around LXC and cgroups and containers09:53
ggabrielrandom_user_587: but but it's got a really cool name!09:54
random_user_587temmi_hoo: newbie here, only 3 years XP, 3 servers, ~15 jails, nothign production critical, though I had a good master09:54
temmi_hoodocker users are used to pasting things from web pages into their sudo shell09:54
temmi_hoothings that netcat or curl more stuff from the web09:54
random_user_587temmi_hoo: I can't believe even blackarch does this09:54
temmi_hooeverybody thinks this is perfectly okay and totally rad and cool09:54
random_user_587(IS security repo for archlinux)09:54
random_user_587curl http://whatever | sudo bash09:54
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ggabrielwell, do don't need to be a docker user to do outrageous things09:55
random_user_587ggabriel: rocket (rkt) has even a better name! (and promises to be even better)09:55
ggabrielrandom_user_587: but but rocket shoots off, while docker docks/integrates09:56
temmi_hooi bet you could dock a rocket09:56
ggabrielput your manager hat on ;-)09:56
ggabrieltemmi_hoo: well, aim it to the iss, see if it docks09:56
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random_user_587how is battery life on the Jolla phone?09:59
ggabrielrandom_user_587: it's fairly good in my experience, but of course depends on a huge number of things10:00
ggabrieli charge it every night, but then I actually use it10:00
ggabrielsome people report that it lasts 2-3 days10:01
ggabrielsome others complain too much without giving a real reason10:01
ggabrielsmartphones are hard to assess battery life wise10:01
random_user_587say, you just let it sit around, 3G/4G off, and send ~20 texts a day, vs. GPS guidance10:02
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ggabrielrandom_user_587: what's "vs. GPS guidance"?10:04
ggabrielalso, having 3/4g off may be counterproductive10:04
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random_user_587how long does the battery last whilst using the phone to guide you using GPS? my N4 doesn't last 3 hours10:07
ggabrielrandom_user_587: with screen on?10:07
ggabrieli haven't tested that tbh10:07
random_user_587also, 3G/4G off is not a bad idea when you have a WiFi connection10:07
ggabrielmaybe 10hr?10:07
ggabrielgps tracking isn't the problem, the problem is the screen in that case10:07
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ggabrieloh, no, my n9 used to last up to 10 hours10:08
ggabrielwith the screen on10:08
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ggabrielthe jolla i never tested10:08
random_user_587ok10:08
ggabriel3hr on the nexus is substandard... but then again, the nexus must be uploading tons of information to oogle10:08
random_user_587what about networking: what happens if 1) I have a not working WiFi connection (login portal) 2) a working 3G/4G connection?10:09
ggabrieli often use the phone offline when i do satnav10:09
random_user_587ggabriel: that's quite possible, yes10:09
ggabrielrandom_user_587: so long as you don't connect to the wifi, it'll use 3g/4g10:09
random_user_587does SFOS have support for WPA-SIM?10:09
ggabrieli'm not sure what that is10:09
random_user_587WiFi authentication using the Sim card as authentication factor10:10
ggabrieli generally avoid public ap's fwiw10:10
ggabrieli'd guess it doesn't10:10
ggabrielbut i may be wrong10:10
random_user_587exactly the point: those APs are secured with WPA-SIM10:10
random_user_587(it can be built into wpa_supplicant)10:10
ggabrielwell, if it's easy to configure, maybe you can diy10:10
ggabrielsome peeps had wpa-enterprise working that way10:11
ggabrieli think it's supported now10:11
ggabrielyou do get a terminal, sudo, etc10:11
random_user_587wpa-enterprise being... 802.1X with PEAP and MSCHAPV2 ?10:11
ggabrielyeah10:11
random_user_587yeah \o/ terminal10:11
ggabrielyou could try all that on the n4 anyway10:12
ggabrielsome people reported better battery usage than android, but that isn't surprising10:12
random_user_587ggabriel: true that but ATM, my personal network at home is broken, so can't DL until... later this week10:12
random_user_587depends on the bloat running in the background10:13
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random_user_587I'd love to precisely chosse what runs on my phone10:13
ggabrielrandom_user_587: well, that's difficult, but possible10:14
ggabrielsadly, there are many things that are a black box still10:14
random_user_587ggabriel: if it's just yet another linux distribution, then alright10:14
ggabrielthe modem part of phones is still rather closed10:14
ggabrieland the modem part has access to *10:14
ggabrielso, it's still hard ;-)10:15
random_user_587yep, read quite a bit about that10:15
temmi_hoohttp://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/sites/default/files/imagecache/biggest/domain-9603/kuvat/P8150009.JPG <-- here's a modem for you10:15
random_user_587(wasn't around at the time this was a thing)10:15
ggabrielthat one is awesome10:15
ggabrielbut it's too fast10:15
random_user_58756K, yeah!10:15
ggabrielarguably, if you're really paranoid, you could carry a dumb phone with ap capabilities10:16
ggabrieland connect to it whatever you want10:16
ggabrielvia bt too10:16
krnlyngwhat do i do if no usb device is shown in ifconfig, when i connect my jolla in dev mode? it works on my laptop but not my desktop, both Arch Linux10:16
ggabrielbt will use less battery10:16
ggabrielkrnlyng: do you have the right kernel modules on your desktop?10:17
ggabrielkrnlyng: do you see erorrs in /var/log/messages?10:17
krnlyngggabriel: not sure which ones are required?10:17
ggabrielkrnlyng: well, compare with lsmod10:17
random_user_587krnlyng: compare the list of packages, rundmesg on both as you connect them10:17
random_user_587ggabriel: no more /var/log, arch uses sytemd, so journalctl10:18
ggabrieloh, yuk10:18
random_user_587ggabriel: systemd has some huge advantages :P and we can use it on Jolla AFAICT10:18
ggabrielsystemd can also write to /var/log10:18
ggabrielit's a lot easier to grep something /var/log than to remember that there's a dedicated binary for the system log too10:19
ggabrielbut what do i know ;-)10:19
ggabrielanyway, you can do journalctl -f krnlyng10:20
ggabrielit *should* say which module you're loading10:20
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ggabrielotherwise lsusb is your friend10:20
ggabrielor lsusb -v, rather10:20
krnlynghttps://bpaste.net/show/4ab00361afe810:20
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krnlyngah it works now10:21
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tadzikhmm, it seems to me that the Email app doesn't notice if read status changes on the IMAP server11:36
tadzikstill thinks everything is unread11:37
ggabrielwhat server are you using?11:37
Nicd-it does notice, I mark emails as read on my computer all the time11:49
Nicd-just needs to sync and that takes a while11:49
ggabrieldovecot works pretty well fwiw11:49
ggabrielofc you have to wait a bit if your connection drops11:50
tadzikggabriel: whatever my provider is using, I've no idea11:58
tadzikbut I use many thunderbirds with this account, they all work like a charm. jolla-email does not11:58
tadzikit's both with gmail and my regular email11:59
ggabrieltadzik: isp provider?11:59
tadzikno, email provider :) It's onet.pl11:59
ggabrielhard to troubleshoot these things when you don't have access to the server11:59
tadzikyeah12:00
tadzikbut the thing is, all the other clients that I'm using realize that it was read somewhere else12:00
tadzikperhaps they're marking it in a way jolla doesn't recognize12:00
ggabrielyou can report it in tjc, but that doesn't prove anything12:00
tadzikyeah12:00
ggabrielat thee end of the day, they have to follow the rfc12:00
ggabrielalthough that isn't perfect all the time12:01
tadzikwell, it'12:01
tadzikit's like following web standards12:01
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ggabrielif it's free, maybe somebody can open an account there and troubleshoot further12:01
tadzikstandards are one thing, website compatibility is another story12:01
ggabrielyeah, and you know how well web standards are being followed12:01
tadzikexactly12:01
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narchiejolla tablet, shipping may 201412:24
ggabrielthing of the past surely12:25
tadzikheh, I thought it's still may12:25
narchieoh look ;^)12:25
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flux"Uusin SailfishOS-päivitys Aaslakkajärvi nyt saatavilla.." "Äijänpäivänjärvi-nimeä kantava Sailfish OS -päivitys on nyt asennettavissa kaikkiin Jolla-puhelimiin."15:04
fluxsomeone pressed the wrong button?15:04
Mikaela:)15:04
ggabrielit makes sense15:04
flux"send to all" oops no save as draft15:05
Mikaela(Aaslakkajärvi is released and Äijänpäivänjärvi can now be installed to all phones)15:05
Mikaela*all Jolla phones15:06
fluxseems like the same text as before, but now with another release name15:06
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wysiwtfim not sure the releasenames are chosen wisely15:07
fluxindeed. it seems aaslakkajärvi is way too easy to spell.15:07
wysiwtfat least for foreigners they all look more or less like the same gibberish :p15:07
wysiwtf"which version do you have?"15:07
wysiwtf"uh.. i have a version, yes."15:08
ggabrieli think they're really cool15:08
ggabrielalso, you have a number if you don't like the name15:08
Mikaelathey are all lakes in Finland and just wait for some years and they all are famous sights to everyone visiting Finland :)15:08
wysiwtfyeah im sure kitkat sales skyrocketed when google called their android version that too ;)15:08
fluxif by everyone you mean to a few jolla owners15:08
Mikaela"the country of thousands lajes)15:08
Mikaela*lakes"15:08
ggabrielhighly advisable though, they are very nice15:09
Mikaelano idea about kitkats but everyone loves ice cream sandwich15:09
fluxmaybe if jolla folds they can reinvent themselves as a traveling agency!15:09
silver_hookWhoops, I just updated SailfishOS and re-enabled Maze Lock and now I can’t see the lock at all.15:09
silver_hookHow can I disable the Maze Lock and/or log into my phone?15:10
silver_hookcoderus: ^^ Help :/15:11
silver_hookcoderus: I think I found the answer.15:11
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r0kk3rzi would say ssh is your best bet15:17
silver_hookr0kk3rz: Yup, I guess so. But I can’t get into the recovery mode :/15:18
r0kk3rzyou have not enabled dev mode?15:19
silver_hookYes15:19
silver_hookI do.15:19
tadzikyou still need to unlock the device to enable usb developer mode15:19
r0kk3rztrue, but wifi is automagic15:19
silver_hookOr, at least, I think I do. I have something in that direction enabled.15:19
r0kk3rzsilver_hook: if your phone is connected to the wifi, you should be able to log into it with ssh as is15:20
Mikaelasame with mobile data if you know the IP15:21
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Mikaeladualstack lite here15:21
r0kk3rzyou can? hmm i might look at the sshd config and stop that on mine then15:21
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coderussilver_hook: can't see the lock means what/15:23
coderus?15:23
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Mikaelar0kk3rz: just disable password authentication15:26
r0kk3rzand micromanage it every time I want to connect? yeah I can just set the interface, its easier15:27
silver_hookcoderus: I re-enabled the Maze Lock patch after I upgraded to u15 and now the lock doesn’t show at all (neither the maze nor the numeric lock).15:27
Mikaelawhat is micromanagement? I am talking about SSH keys15:27
r0kk3rzoh key certs, yeah could do that i suppose15:28
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coderussilver_hook: interesting, so you can't access ssh now via wifi?15:29
silver_hookcoderus: I couldn’t so far, I’m trying to see if it’s on a different IP15:29
XwZhi, I have a question about my jolla, since a few weeks, in the parameters' main page I haven't light and volume controls anymore, is there any way to get them back ?15:30
coderussilver_hook: check router weebpage dhcp leases or special lan clients page. usually ips are there15:31
r0kk3rzXwZ: under display, long press the slider and set as favourite?15:31
silver_hookcoderus: I’m already on it :)15:31
coderussshed?15:31
coderuspkcon install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 jolla-settings-system15:32
silver_hookcoderus: Yes, I’m sshd :)15:32
XwZr0kk3rz: i didn't knew that it was possible ! thank you ! Jolla rocks !15:32
silver_hookcoderus: As "nemo"?15:32
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coderusyes if you have warehouse installed15:32
coderusif no do [devel-su -p] before15:32
silver_hookcoderus: I do.15:32
coderusand reboot/or systemctl --user restart lipstick after15:33
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silver_hookcoderus: That did it! \o/15:38
silver_hookYou rock!15:38
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ggabrielhehe, ok, i received the emial now15:41
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MikaelaI heard that restarting lipstick fixes broken clipboard and I had some kind of idea of it bein software launcher/everything in the background and it did that, but no one warned me that it closes everything I had running :(16:02
ggabriellipstick is the UI16:03
ggabrielif you're a mac user, it's like restarting finder16:03
temmi_hooi can restart finder no prob16:03
ggabrielor xorg-server if you're a linux user16:03
ggabrielyes, it closes everything16:03
temmi_hoonothing else is interested if finder restarts16:03
temmi_hoofinder is just the file manager part16:03
ggabrieluhm...16:03
ggabrielso they changed it16:03
ggabrielthen it used to close everything16:04
ggabrielanyway16:04
ggabrielyou get the idea16:04
temmi_hoowell yes it's more like if you close the xsession you have16:04
temmi_hoobe it the sh running .xsession as traditionally or some other dm running it some other way16:05
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Mikaelaxorg-server makes no sense, restarting finder has only closed filebrowser since at least Snow Leopard which is the first OS X I have used16:08
ggabrielok, my mistake re mac os x16:08
ggabrielit's like starting xorg-server16:08
ggabrielso, all your applications go away16:08
ggabrielnot the end of the world though16:08
Mikaela-no16:09
Mikaelaxorg-server makes sense to me, I misspelled sorry16:09
temmi_hooMikaela: so now you know you got to be careful when applying lipstick16:09
temmi_hooi can't do that, i'm not nearly accurate enough16:10
temmi_hootried though16:10
Mikaelayes, but I am still lost on how to fix clipboard when it stops copying, until Aaslakkajärvi it was pressing "restart keyboard" in Sailfish utilities16:10
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Crow_Hi everybody, is there anyone who has trouble to update app from the original playstore with mobile connection ?16:26
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r0kk3rzi have found that the data connection with android can be a bit flakey16:34
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Crow_it worked fine for me during 4 month and since this night it won't update16:38
Crow_it's searshing for the network without finding it16:39
Crow_searching*16:39
r0kk3rzother network related things working in dalvik?16:44
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Crow_I don't know yet16:46
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Crow_i'm in my school now, and even if it's a computer engineering school, they can't maintain a decent network ...16:46
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Crow_so i can't test by wifi16:47
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Crow_It works again, i don't know why ...16:49
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r0kk3rzits a school, of course the wifi is going to be dodgy17:04
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Anz-failing on un- applying, unistalling patch. help?17:35
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coderusAnz-: which one?17:37
Anz-gallery Zoom (Ancelad)17:37
coderusunapplying AFTER upgraded?17:37
Anz-OS version: 1.1.4, patch version: 0.0.217:39
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Anz-an upgrade (v0.0.3) for the patch is available, which is for 1.1.6. I am now trying to unapply all patches before updating OS17:45
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coderusno idea why it not unapplying18:11
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Anz-thanks coderus. the OS update can wait :)18:19
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coderusAnz-: ask author on openrepos18:31
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Sail0rhui, there will be war https://i.imgur.com/uydmjv4.png19:38
Stskeepsheh19:38
Sail0rI first thought it's a fake19:38
Sail0rbut for real my ublock does it also19:39
Stskeepsnext up, jolla.com is blocked for being not firefox os?19:39
Stskeeps:P19:39
Sail0ryep :P19:42
Sail0rfor postponing tablet19:42
Sail0rand for $needs_to_be_defined_later19:42
ortylpsailfish update installed, no problems yet19:43
Nicd-Sail0r: maybe because sourceforge serves adware nowadays19:48
Sail0ryeah sure because of that19:48
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