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Stskeepsgood morning05:49
Yanielmooing05:49
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ilpianistaStskeeps, about your last tweet, if you need a tester. I'm here :-)07:44
Stskeepsilpianista: you have such an issue?07:44
ilpianistaI cannot access notifications anymore07:44
Stskeepsah07:45
ilpianista"Surround touch" test from CSD reported bottom touch is broken07:45
Stskeepswasn't that more about the dead touchscreen though07:45
ilpianistaah ok07:45
Stskeepsmy problem is that i have touches that get stuk07:45
Stskeepsc07:45
Stskeepsk07:45
Yanieloh, lie kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk this=07:46
Yaniel?07:46
Stskeepsyes07:46
Stskeepsi have it in android apps though07:47
YanielI hate it when that happens (way too often)07:47
Yanielusually in fingerterm for me07:47
Stskeepsyeah it happens a little too often for me too07:47
Yanielbut lock code entry suffers from sticky buttons as well07:47
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Yanielthere it is more of a cosmetic issue though as the key events don't repeat07:48
greenithi, is there an app for blocking unwanted calls and sms? sms would be preferred ;)07:48
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Stskeepso/ veskuh07:56
veskuhStskeeps: hi07:56
Stskeepshow's it going?07:56
veskuhJust updated my Jolla :)07:56
Stskeepshehe07:56
Stskeepsand now everything is broken..? :P07:57
veskuhStskeeps: Testing, testing :)07:57
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TemeVgreenit: PhoneHook seems to have call blocking https://openrepos.net/content/omnight/phonehook07:59
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Yanielaww, no updates found08:00
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greenitTemeV: thanks for the link :)    ... sadly it seems like there is no sms-blocking app :(08:01
TemeVgreenit: message blockin (or muting actually) is one of things I've been planning to hack in to Jolla-messages app08:02
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greenitTemeV: nice to know :)08:03
TemeVBut the summer is preventing me from spending time on hacking :) Though now it seems it's going to be rainy weekend so maybe I'll have time for that08:03
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greenitTemeV: if you accomplish the task and hack it into the messaging-app... how are we able to use it then? via a openrepos-repo?08:05
TemeVgreenit: no idea08:05
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greenitare there any sites other than funkyotherhalf and the jolla-store to buy other halves? I don't know if it's possible, but I'd like to have an other half completely made out of wood or metal. Or just the black cover, but it's sold out for months now...08:47
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tbrgreenit: not completely out of wood, but lastu has an online shop of their own08:51
kimmoliblack toh keira was available on multitronic.fi08:55
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Acceout of metal probably will block all your antennas, located on the back of the phone09:09
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coderushttp://sourceforge.net/p/scumstopper/wiki/Home/09:19
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Temecool09:54
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ppverkkokauppa.com has one black one too10:43
ggabriel30 dorra!10:44
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ilpianistacoderus, maintainer should move out of sourceforge...10:47
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Temeyaeh sourceforge is an absolute evil nowadays11:09
coderusilpianista: dont tell it to me, tell it to ovekanen11:09
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mcfriskMy jolla is not responding to the pulley menu gestures anymore. Second time already. Can't answer an incoming call. Swiping left and right works so I can switch tasks but wtf...11:56
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ggabrielreboot?11:57
Siddemcfrisk: mine has started doing that too since last update11:57
Siddemcfrisk: reboot helps11:57
Stskeepsmcfrisk: power button off/on helps or not?11:58
Siddelots of other stuff stops working too when that happens11:58
Siddewhen i listen to audiobooks the application "sabas" don't update the progress either11:59
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falfamcfrisk: i have similar problems in around 5-10% of the calls12:03
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mcfriskStskeeps: is the device lock causing this?12:03
falfaoften i cant hang hup12:03
falfai think its some app processor and modem processing interaction problem12:03
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ggabrieli had the issue with phone calls once12:04
ggabrielbut then again, i don't call that often12:04
ggabrieland it was indeed after the last update12:04
mcfriskso this a regression from the last update, I've had a few times now in critical situations12:07
mcfrisktried a few incoming calls and now can't reproduce that, sigh.12:08
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TemeVsomebody said you can minimize the app with side swipe and then answer from the cover12:09
TemeVhaven't had the issue my self for some time so haven't tried12:09
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mcfriskcan I somehow force the device lock on? maybe this only happens if device lock is on...12:10
Yanieldoubleclick the power button12:11
Yanielerr double press12:11
Yanielwhatever12:11
mcfriskthanks Yaniel, didn't know about that double power button event12:12
mcfriskdamit, this is hard to reproduce.12:14
mcfriskis there a tjc issue about this?12:16
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chem|stmcfrisk: yes12:40
chem|stseems odd as pinentry behaves the same sometimes12:41
chem|stlike ofono is blocking input12:41
mcfriskdidn't find an existing tjc issue so I created a new one, feel free to merge/close as dupe: https://together.jolla.com/question/98557/11627-regression-pulley-menu-stops-working-on-some-incoming-calls-or-in-some-apps/12:42
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clau2is there any way to delete emails older than X days in the Jolla Email client?14:37
ggabrielautomatically? no14:37
clau2how about manually?14:40
ggabrielpulley, select emails, tap each email you want to delete, then tap on the little bin?14:41
clau2how are emails stored?14:41
ggabrielsqlite i think14:41
clau2manually deleting them in Jolla Email would delete them from server too14:42
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ggabrielthat should be the case, at least for imap14:43
ggabrielbut try with one ;)14:43
clau2would be nice to be able to keep just the last N emails, or last X days on phone14:43
clau2without actually removing anything from server14:43
ggabrieluhm... i tend to disagree with that14:43
ggabrieli like all my emails14:43
ggabrielby default it downloads X emails anyway14:43
ggabrieland only goes beyond that if you ask it14:43
clau2I have 15k emails on my gmail account14:43
ggabrielbut once it started, it stores emails14:43
ggabrielso?14:44
clau2of course, it downloads a limited number currently14:44
clau2but, I don't want tons of emails on my phone. currently the only way to deal with this is to re-create the account14:44
ggabrielyou can also tag emails on gmail14:44
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ggabrielthat's equivalent of putting them in folders14:44
clau2K-9 Mail can do it, btw14:45
ggabrielsorry, tag+archive14:45
ggabrielok, you can use that then14:45
ggabrieljolla's email client is quite limited14:45
ggabrielbut one good feature is that it keeps the emails14:45
ggabrielas opposed to android's mail client14:45
ggabrielwhich is absolute rubbish14:45
clau2so, since you like this way, you don't think other people should have the option to do otherwise, right? :)14:46
ggabrielof course not, you could have the option14:46
ggabrieli mean, you can ask in tjc14:46
narchiealone.jolla.com14:46
ggabrielbut IMO there are other more pressing pending features14:46
clau2well, I'll have a look at the way emails are stored14:47
ggabrielclau2: be careful with that14:47
ggabriele.g., that you don't delete on the db and then it gets sync'ed14:47
ggabrielyou can try with a test email of course14:47
clau2sure, I'll be careful14:47
clau2the email client is not opensource, right?14:48
ggabrielonly the middleware bit i think14:48
ggabrieli may be wrong though14:48
ggabriel(as in, there may be closed mw components)14:48
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SfietKonstantinWggabriel: the email client itself is not oss, but yeah, it is only a gui based on QMF and friends15:17
ggabrielSfietKonstantinW: yup, that's what i thought15:18
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clau2thanks for the info ggabriel & SfietKonstantinW15:38
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OsanweHello! Are there any people who want to use vk on jolla phones? We opened public testing for Kat: https://vk.com/wall-97736446_4 We'll be pleasure for any response.17:10
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Yanielwhat's this17:37
Yanieloh the russian facebook thing17:38
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keithzgI thought there was some shenanigans and the guy who created it had to flee the country?18:06
keithzgAha, yeah: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/vkontakte-founder-pavel-durov-learns-hes-been-fired-through-media/498641.html18:07
keithzgAnd http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/22/durov-out-for-good-from-vk-com-plans-a-mobile-social-network-outside-russia/18:09
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coderusYaniel: vk.com is much better ui and ux than facebook :)18:24
coderuscool api and services, no clients bans :D18:24
Yaniellet me get my 11-foot pole to check how facebook looks these days18:24
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keithzgI actually really like how Facebook is running their Messenger app these days, especially since it's one of the few cases of kindof traditional multitasking on Android.18:26
keithzgOf course anyone worried about Facebook for privacy reasons should be *extremely* worried about VK, heh.18:27
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coderusanybody worried about privacy shouldn't use ANY social services18:35
coderusand stop blame any special service, all of them are good and bad at the same time18:36
Yanielwow, the tox site is still up18:36
coderuswell, you can use diaspora probably18:37
the_mgtI recently read the howto on setting up diaspora on your own server18:37
the_mgtman, that howto was a mess18:38
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Bysmyyrthere is much less privaty conserns if you use website so you can control what info they get. With app, they can get everything from your phone18:51
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Venemo_jBysmyyr: if your phone runs a sane platform, then not19:08
Bysmyyrofcourse needs proper browser etc19:16
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Screamer_hi, the "preview" of the running phone app does not show the most recent calls. just random ones? is this the expected behaviour?19:24
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chem|stScreamer_: random? nope19:32
Screamer_so it is supposed to show the most tecent calls? mine shows a list of names/numbers that are a few days old19:35
Screamer_-tecent +recent19:35
Screamer_whats the correct name of this "preview" on the task switcher?19:36
TemeVScreamer_: app cover19:36
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TemeVScreamer_: what happens if you close the app and reopen?19:37
Screamer_doesnt change anything. the view of the app cover is just "scrolled down" to some calls in the past. when i delete shown entries, they also vanish in the app cover.19:40
TemeVok, strange bug then19:46
TemeVreport it to together and maybe it is fixed someday :)19:46
Screamer_ill try a reboot :-)19:47
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Screamer-after a reboot, the app cover of the phone app is scolled to the most recent call.19:52
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Screamer-maybe this bug occures when the list was initially empty and got filled without ever restarting the phone?19:56
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coderus4~https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/20615996821:49
coderusohoh, i hope tablet will be delivered soon!21:49
dirkvly21:51
dirkvlbut no dev tablets shipped yet i assume21:52
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dirkvlso depending on whether they will still do that21:52
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