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Kabouik_Hi, I'd like to create an ad-hoc wlan network between Jolla and my laptop, using this (https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/wifi_ad-hoc), but there is no /etc/network/interfaces on the Jolla. Shall I create it, or is there an alternative file?09:45
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ninnnuIIRC Jolla doesn't support ad-hoc mode WLANs.09:49
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ninnnuApparently with iwconfig you can create an adhoc-network...09:56
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Kabouik_iwconfig command was unknown on Jolla when I tried it09:59
Kabouik_Perhaps there's a package for it10:00
ninnnuWorked fine for me10:01
ninnnuwith devel-su10:01
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Kabouik_Oh yes, sorry10:02
lainwir3dhttps://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-display-shipping-update/10:02
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Kabouik_Where did you find that ad-hoc can be achieved with it on Jolla? I'm going to lunch but if you have a source of it, then I could follow the procedure10:02
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TeemuKabouik_: iwconfig is a shell command installed in jolla by default10:06
Yanielsooo... color management on the tablet?10:06
Kabouik_Yes Teemu, found it after devel-su, but don't know how to use it for creating an ad-hoc connection. My Ubuntu guide needs /etc/network/interfaces on both devices10:06
Kabouik_Will check that after lunch10:07
Teemuiwconfig shell arguments can supply all necessary things10:07
ninnnuKabouik_: https://together.jolla.com/question/28818/request-wlan-ad-hoc-mode/ Last comment of last (non)solution10:08
ninnnuetc/network/interfaces is a Debianism, Jolla doesn't have that10:08
ninnnuBut it also doesn't really have /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts (well, it does but it's empty), which would be similar-ish RedHatism.10:09
Teemudoes sailfish have netwokdamager, then?10:17
Yanielno, it uses conman10:19
ninnnuApparently no. There's something called connman which doesn't support adhoc (and won't support ad-hoc in foreseeable future, according to the tjc-thread)10:19
ilpianistaanyone already got a "developer loan" mail?10:21
Teemugeeks want adhockery10:22
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ppwhy adhoc when you can do master :-)10:23
ggabrieldeveloper loan?10:24
ninnnuBut with master all devices depend on the master. :P10:24
ggabrielyou mean for the tablet?10:24
ilpianistayes10:25
ilpianista"The Developer Device loan program has been launched with invitations sent to selected developers"10:25
ggabrieloh, but that's secret :)10:25
ilpianistayou serious?10:26
ggabrielno, but i hope it's secret10:26
ilpianistaI don't see the reason to be10:26
ggabrieli do: less noise10:26
ilpianistano time for noise, we have to develop!10:26
ggabrielwell, if you are one of those selected developers, you will develop, not report that you had an email or a tablet :P10:27
ilpianistadamn10:27
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chem|stilpianista: I get about 300emails each week, should I report to you?10:41
chem|stor are you interested in Jolla mail only?10:42
ilpianistaI don't get your tone10:42
ggabrieloh, i do need something10:42
ilpianistaI did ask a question: you can reply or not10:42
ggabrielan estimated date, as i need to adjust my countdown10:42
ggabrieli guess i'll risk last day of august10:42
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chem|stilpianista: there is no tone10:51
ilpianistathen I don't get your joke10:51
ilpianistadid I ask you to report every mail you get?10:51
ilpianistachem|st, ^10:51
chem|stilpianista: was just asking if you want to have reports on my emails too or if you are interested in what developers get only?10:52
chem|stI like to share ;)10:52
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coderusiekku: do you have a spare displays for Jolla phone? my friend broken his Jolla :(12:01
iekkucoderus, he should contact our care via zendesc12:02
iekkucoderus, same advice i gave to my aunt when she managed to broke her12:03
ggabriel"managed to"? :)12:03
ggabrielit's so easy to break a display12:03
* ggabriel taking challenges12:03
ppmobylife doesn't seem to have any at least :-)12:06
lainwir3deasy to break a display ?12:10
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lainwir3dmaybe I'm only lucky then, cause in 6 years, i broke one12:11
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Tofehow can I know what flags have been used for the build of the latest version of wpa_supplicant in SF ? More specifically, I'd like to know if EAP-SIM was included12:24
ggabriellainwir3d: lend me any device, i'm sure i can break a display12:26
lainwir3dheh12:27
Tofelainwir3d: in 7 years, I broke none12:27
ggabrieluhm... i broke none in a lot longer than that12:27
coderusiekku: month ago they said he have no displays and suggested to buy new device with discount...12:27
coderusthey*12:27
ggabrieland then i went x-country skiing with the gopro close the the jolla and fell :P12:28
Tofeggabriel: Nokia devices don't count :)12:28
ggabrielTofe: lol12:28
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KabouikI give up with the ad-hoc, it seems the best way is still the one I was using (sharing internet from the Jolla so that a device can connect to it, even if there's is no regular Wifi around)12:34
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KabouikBut unfortunately it drains battery quite fast12:34
Sail0r?12:36
SfietKonstantinWyou can tether too12:37
KabouikYes, this is what I mean with internet sharing12:40
KabouikBut it drains the battery very fast12:40
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KabouikSomething totally unrelated: has anyone ever tried to merge dictionnaries for texts? Like French + English so that when I type both languages regularly, there are suggestions for both languages?12:41
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SfietKonstantinWKabouik: nope12:43
SfietKonstantinWbecause the text prediction engine cannot do that12:44
SfietKonstantinW(it seems)12:44
Hellewell, you can just recompile the dictionaries I guess12:44
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Kabouik"Just" :D12:44
KabouikEvery time I see someone using "compile" word, I faint.12:44
* Kabouik faints.12:44
iekkucoderus, ouch12:48
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TofeIf I install the source package of wpa_supplicant on my Jolla, what happens ? I get a tar.gz of the source used to produce the binary ?12:53
SfietKonstantinWTofe: iirc yes12:54
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Tofeok, let's try, maybe I'll get the options used for build that way12:56
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StskeepsTofe: mer-packages/wpasupplicant on mer-packages13:04
Stskeepser13:04
Stskeepsgihub13:04
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SfietKonstantinWTofe: why do you want wpasupplicant ?13:04
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rostbachToFe: how about "strings wpa_supplicant |grep EAP-SIM"13:09
tbrI'd be surprised to see EAP-SIM13:10
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rostbachi am also interested, what jolla provides, as I thought it might need also interface with pcsc libs13:10
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rostbachToFe: at least mine (v2.2) says  unknown EAP method 'SIM'.13:24
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deryoHi there! I'm sorry but I have to let steam off. Pardon my French. I came one hour late to a job interview because of the fucking caldav sync. It obviously has issues with DST for over a year now. There are merged pull requests etc. but why the fuck didn't this get fixed in any release? I'm sorry that I am trying to use the phone as a tool and not as a toy.13:56
deryoNow that this is said, are there any plans to promise this will definitely work in the next (!) update?13:56
deryoIf you don't know what I'm talking about: https://together.jolla.com/question/60486/ (tracked (but not worked on?) by Jolla)13:58
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Toferostbach: I don't have strings installed on the device right now14:14
coderusiekku: so if you have an info about displays availability or seen an unused display at the desk please let me know :)14:14
rostbachTofe: me neither, I copied the binary to another host14:14
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rostbachbut instead, running on Jolla with EAP-SIM conf-file got me above mentioned unknown EAP method error, so you dont need that14:16
Toferostbach: in latest release, wpa_supplicant is version 2.4 and... I do find the EAP-SIM strings in there14:18
rostbachthat's true, they are there, I noticed, that 2.2 also did have them14:19
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Toferostbach: ok... I'm tempted to still give it a try14:21
iekkucoderus, ai ai sir!14:21
tadzikderyo: maybe write the story under the question to show how big of a deal that is, I'll be sure to upvote it14:23
deryotadzik: If you think it helps: https://together.jolla.com/question/60486/#comment-102298 (click "see more comments" under the question, enter address field again and hit enter. Browser should jump to the correct comment)14:28
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tadzikderyo: it's the only thing that I think we can do, apart from personally pestering Jolla staff14:30
Toferostbach: ok, EAP-SIM isn't in https://github.com/mer-packages/wpa_supplicant/blob/master/rpm/build-config so I guess it's dead.14:30
tore_regarding EAP: my jolla phone can't connect to the main wifi here at the IETF meeting, which uses PEAP. it sees the network but when I tap it I immediately get a "sorry, we couldn't connect you to this network" error message14:32
tore_I uess that's a known issue?14:32
tore_answering myself: yes: https://together.jolla.com/question/315/how-to-wpa-8021x-enterprise-eduroam-others-gui-wifi-support-needed-workaround/14:34
tbrtore_: probably misses GUI14:34
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tbrtore_: yes, certificates are one aspect and cert mgmt hasn't shipped yet14:35
tore_btw, dual works perfectly when roaming here in .cz - on some plmns it falls back on v4-only, another I get true DS14:36
tore_so I'm crossing my fingers for changed default in v2.0 ;)14:37
SQUelcheron t-mobile germany i sometimes get DS, sometimes just v414:37
SQUelcher(and on a very very old AP a unfiltered public ipv4 (being able to ssh into the jolla from the internet is great ;)14:38
Teemuds?14:39
tore_SQUelcher: you know you get native v6? cause sfos will by default spin up 6to4 if it gets a public v4 address14:39
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tore_noticed that on the ietf wlan..14:39
tore_if the ipv6 address you get starts with 2002: it's 6to4, which is evil and broken and must die14:40
Teemuds: http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hires/00000019%20-%201954%20Citroen%20DS/1954_Citroen_DS_001_1796.jpg14:40
tore_if it's a native address that belongs to t-mobile per the ripe database, then my first guess would be there's a difference between 4G and 2/3G14:40
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SQUelchertore_: 2a01:598:8181:af6b:... looks good ;)14:43
SQUelcherinet6num:       2a01:598:8000::/3314:43
SQUelchernetname:        Customer-v6-000114:43
SQUelcherdescr:          Telekom Deutschland GmbH14:43
tore_cool stuff14:44
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tore_try activating while on forced 3G, see if you still get v6 then14:44
SQUelcherlet's see14:45
tore_SQUelcher: if you send me the APN I could update https://together.jolla.com/question/89966/use-dual-stack-ipv4-and-ipv6-on-mobile-data-by-default/ with that info14:45
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tore_is it nat64? try "ping6 ipv4only.arpa" - if you get unknown host it's not, if you actually tries to ping an ipv6 address it's dns64/nat64 (nothing will respond to your pings though so don't expect that)14:46
SQUelchertore_: works on 3G and 4G but not on 2G, ping6 ipv4only.arpa returns "unknown host"14:49
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tore_SQUelcher: hmm14:50
tore_try pdp type ipv6 on 2g14:50
tore_it could be that they don't support true dual-stack14:50
tore_but single-stack ipv4 + single-stack ipv614:50
tore_which could be done in parallel using 2 pdp contexts14:51
SQUelcheripv6 only fails on 2G/3G/4G14:51
tore_heh14:51
tore_oddball network14:51
tore_there's no reason to use dns64 on dual-stack pdp contexts14:51
SQUelchertore_: i've said ping6 failed, so there is no dns6414:52
tore_ah, but can you connect?14:52
tore_ping6 2a02:c0::114:53
tore_for example14:53
SQUelcheryes, ping6 to this IP or ssh -6 to my server is working fine.. on a second try, i've now also got a v6 address on 2G14:54
tore_< SQUelcher> tore_: works on 3G and 4G but not on 2G, ping6 ipv4only.arpa returns "unknown host" <--- I understood here that ping6 ipv4only.arpa failed with "unknown host" only on 2G but did actually resolve as ipv4 on 3G/4G, did I misunderstand?14:54
SQUelchertore_: i've meant i didn't get a ipv6 on 2G at all, the ping6 result was the same every time14:55
tore_ack. and only ip/dual gives you connectivity, ipv6 not14:55
tore_on all technologies14:55
SQUelcherexactly14:55
SQUelcherthey announced rolling out ipv6 only a few weeks ago, so it might not be reliable yet14:56
tore_do you get an ipv6 link-local on 2G?14:56
tore_maybe the router advertisement is getting dropped because 2G is teh suck14:57
tore_without it, you can't form ipv6 address14:57
SQUelcheron a second try, ipv6 is fully working now, even on 2g14:57
tore_but link-local (fe80::* address) is learned from pdp activation (info in pco)14:57
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tore_so next time you repro problem with missing ipv6 on 2G, check if you got link-local. also you can try to manually solicit another RA from network with "rdisc6 rmnet1" (which might need to be installed I guess)14:59
SQUelchertore_: the APN is internet.t-mobile, btw.15:00
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tore_SQUelcher: ack. that's the only one it works on? since you said it was an old one...15:00
tore_I could include link to announcement/official page with settings etc too if you have it15:01
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SQUelchertore_: on the old one there is just a link-local15:04
tore_oh, "internet.t-mobile" is not the old one?15:05
SQUelcherno, "internet.t-d1.de" is the old one15:05
tore_aha, another misunderstanding :) I didn't sleep too well. prague is too hot and I'm in a cheap-arse hotel with no A/C15:05
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tore_but interesting that you get a link-local on a v4-only apn15:08
tore_since the UE doesn't get an ipv6 interface id then, so it lacks the last 64 bits to create an ipv6 ll address15:09
tore_maybe it just picks something at random15:09
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tore_SQUelcher: yep, it seems like it will pick a random link-local even when explicitly connecting ipv4-only15:44
tore_SQUelcher: so that's not a good indication at all15:44
tore_explicit router discovery might be though15:44
tore_it's not at all unlikely that the initial RAs from the network never make it to the UE on 2G, especially if it's already begun sending real ipv4 traffic at the same time15:45
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tore_SQUelcher: anyway, I updated the page15:47
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r0kk3rzwow the vocal minority are really bashing the jolla blog16:38
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Stskeepsr0kk3rz: should i read it with or without a cold beer in my hand?16:52
r0kk3rzwith of course16:52
kimmolii have cold beer while reading. .16:52
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r0kk3rzi find it more amusing than damaging though, some of the claims are rather laughable16:53
r0kk3rzbut then again, im just an outsider, rather than the person doing all the hard work16:54
kimmolii'm at "stick to samsung" part...16:54
wysiwtfalways the same with crowdfunding16:54
wysiwtfwhen will people realize devs cant see the future?16:54
dr_gogeta86hi kimmoli16:54
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Stskeepswysiwtf: yeah, that's business side responsibility :p16:55
wysiwtfi mean if i pay for a non-existent product theres of course a risk involved16:55
lainwir3d:P16:55
wysiwtfand not sticking to the schedule 100% is a smaller one there...16:55
HarhaanJohtajawhy someone even gives money to crowdfunding if can't handle little delay?16:56
kimmoli4% of funded campaigns ships on time..16:56
StskeepsHarhaanJohtaja: crowdfunding is a new thing for many16:56
wysiwtffor all i know jolla could announce they are not making hardware anymore and concentrate on sailfish development and thank you for the fish16:56
kimmolidr_gogeta86: hi16:56
* kimmoli goes back to sauna 16:56
dr_gogeta86rostbach, url16:56
r0kk3rzthe ones about missing an arbitrary personal deadline are the best16:56
dr_gogeta86kimmoli, i'm doing it for free 40 degrees16:57
dr_gogeta86r0kk3rz, urls16:57
r0kk3rzdr_gogeta86: the jolla blog, comments on the latest tablet update16:57
r0kk3rzhttps://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-display-shipping-update/16:58
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plfiorinii contributed to the early 2015 campaign17:01
plfiorinishame on me :)17:01
dr_gogeta86shame for ?17:02
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plfiorininow i guess i will wait more than who contributed in 2014 :)17:03
Stskeepshope it's still worth the wait17:04
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plfioriniwhy wouldn't it17:06
r0kk3rzim sure all the bad blood will go away as soon as they have it17:06
r0kk3rzpeople are just being impatient children17:06
lainwir3dimpatient assholes i would say17:07
locusfthe Queen song still stands17:07
Stskeepsnah.. people are upset that deadlines slipped17:07
Stskeepsthat's fair17:07
Stskeepsbut at same time, we don't want to send out a bad product :)17:07
plfiorinithat would backfire17:07
plfiorinipeople can take long walks on the beach, it's summer after all17:08
plfioriniand find the tablet wrapped under the xmas tree17:09
dr_gogeta86plfiorini, we are in era when 100k dumb italian bought a phone that is a just yet another MTK china phone ...17:10
dr_gogeta86and the seller says17:10
dr_gogeta86we are just two peeps to do all things17:10
dr_gogeta86they sent just 300 samples17:10
plfiorinidr_gogeta86, marketing is a bitch17:12
plfioriniat least is not that scam phone that doesn't need batteries17:13
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kimmolidr_gogeta86: +40 is really bad sauna... i like it about 70-80... as there is no separate washing room, just lake17:16
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r0kk3rzno idea how hot they got it going when i was in finland17:17
r0kk3rzwas nice though, totally get why you guys do it17:18
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chem|stoh this pussy parade17:19
kimmolichem|st is having a good day...17:19
chem|stfed with that crap, mimimi I will send it back and buy android, than you stupid shit should buy an android in the firstplace17:20
chem|stkimmoli: I have a good week!17:20
kimmoliyeah, i have seen your bad one :p17:20
chem|ststarting off with 2h meeting in an AC free conference room at 34 degrees17:20
r0kk3rzthere is an awful lot of whinging going on in the jollaverse atm though17:20
r0kk3rzbetween tablet, and batteries, and other such things17:21
wysiwtfi want a thinkpad x250 :(17:21
kimmoli+15 raining and building terrace17:21
kimmolipolarbear with it17:21
chem|stI have zero money atm, just after I ordered 4 things by supporting crowdfunding I had to pay my student loan17:21
chem|styes I'd like to have the tablet like last year, as I am also having an android tablet that I will shred in pieces once I have my jTab!17:22
kimmolii need to tear apart my jolla Tablet..17:23
chem|stwysiwtf: I want a timemachine, not to go back... to go fast fwd 5 years17:23
chem|stkimmoli: that is why you ordered two right?17:23
kimmoli...17:24
chem|styou did order two?17:24
kimmolii need to check17:24
chem|sthehe17:24
chem|stouch17:24
wysiwtfchem|st: the base costs of the two devices are roughly the same :/17:24
plfioriniStskeeps, btw are you using the new eglfs on the tablet, being intel?17:24
chem|stwysiwtf: the time machine is rather cheap though17:26
wysiwtfchem|st: you may think so but once you try to get hold of a working flux capacitor things look different!17:26
chem|stso need to gen a new btc address for android destroyer thread on tjc, any suggestions?17:27
chem|stwysiwtf: the batteries will be the hardest to get...17:27
chem|stnever in stock and if they are they are gone before anyone could order17:27
wysiwtfjust use the one from the jolla phone!17:28
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chem|sthmm but what do I use as time-navigation-interface then?17:28
dr_gogeta86plfiorini, who knows ... I've asked for a dev devices ... didn't answared17:28
r0kk3rzchem|st: an occulus rift of course17:29
wysiwtfchem|st: or even better, design a time machine to be connected to the jolla as ToH17:29
wysiwtfim sure it would be a major success17:29
chem|stactually I could get a spacecraft and fly by a dwarf next to a blackhole, time is running slower there17:29
chem|stwysiwtf: that was the initial idea17:29
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r0kk3rzdisregarding the time it would take to get anywhere near a black hole17:30
r0kk3rzeven at C17:30
chem|stkimmoli: about bad week, it got close to it last night, and I am still uncertain if it will hold "good" the next 72h17:31
chem|str0kk3rz: even better at C, the travel alone will then be enough17:32
Stskeepsplfiorini: i wish17:32
Stskeepsplfiorini: hwcomposer android HAL interface17:32
chem|stbut I'd rather do stuff like wormholing than try to reach a blackhole normaly17:33
chem|stStskeeps: HAL, just because of that I will destroy that android device!17:34
kimmolihitchhike?17:34
chem|stkimmoli: where do I get that ring?17:34
kimmolii was thinking more the fish that i could understand you17:35
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plfioriniStskeeps, i don't envy you :)17:47
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chem|stkimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/102325/hail-jolla-tablet/18:02
chem|stcelebrate tablet delivery with me!18:03
ursinstead of destroying it, you could give it away for free!18:04
ursbecause, you know, it is still a good piece of hardware18:04
chem|sturs: I will not harm people on intention!18:04
wysiwtfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uNPh_FHz5g18:04
trulsdo you recycle stuff where you live, chem|st18:05
dr_gogeta86chem|st, port sfos on it18:05
dr_gogeta86?18:05
trulscause breaking a pad would probably cost you a couple of years worth of recycling karma18:05
chem|sttruls: I will bring the remains to a recycling center18:05
dr_gogeta86and recycle it as home dashboard18:05
trulsit was a related, but unrelated, question18:06
chem|stdr_gogeta86: omap, locusf already tried18:06
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urschem|st: you could also just simply ship it back to samsung, with a letter "Thanks, but no."18:07
chem|stit was a wasted 290eur, it is even the GSM version, so it is a real phablet, one of the first18:07
ursor: return it to the store!18:08
chem|sturs: write that in the answer, a letter signed by 1k community members with "Thanks, but no!"18:08
chem|sturs: shredded to bits and pieces in a paperbag...18:09
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chem|stwith a thumbdrive with the video on it, a note, that will happen to all your devices once I get them!18:09
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wysiwtfhm18:57
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wysiwtfthunderbird seems to think the jolla mails are phishing18:57
Sail0ryep18:57
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wysiwtfi wonder what triggers i18:59
wysiwtft18:59
the_mgtprobably some wording. I get legit emails from clients which are triggers as phishing, too18:59
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Stskeepsso, imagine that you could use your murmurs (speech with less volume than a whisper) as spoken commands, what situations would you use them in?19:31
the_mgtwriting sms in the cinema?19:34
Sail0rnobody needs to write damn sms in the cinema19:35
Teemuwrong movie if you need to communicate during a movie19:35
Sail0rI am for jammers all over in cinemas19:35
Teemujust walk out if it is boring19:35
Sail0ryeah19:35
Sail0rand let other people enjoy the movie19:35
Stskeepshow about talking in the cinema without talking :p19:36
Stskeepsto others19:36
Stskeepsbut yeah, i agree somewhat19:37
Teemui'd use the clearly very sensitive mic to detect and measure where the obnoxious candy eater is and aim the tazer gun automagically that way19:37
Stskeepsi still don't fully understand why they don't just hand in headphones with 3d sound to people in cinemas..19:38
Stskeeps:P19:38
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Sail0rthat's why I have a home cinema no popcorn eating, facebook chatting people all around :D19:38
r0kk3rzStskeeps: there was a python program i saw that was a messaging application using infrasonic sounds from laptop speakers to transmit messages19:38
r0kk3rzi always wondered about rolling that into a phone for zero data ultra local chat19:38
keithzgPshhh, movie theatres can't even be arsed to use non-scratched 3D goggles half the time, no way they're shelling out for headphones19:39
keithzgOne of the reasons I'm generally lazy and just wait for movies to come out for home viewing, then watch them on my projector.19:39
keithzgFirst thing that comes to mind though, I'd use murmers to control audio and ask my phone quick questions while I'm walking about, instead of having to take it out of my pockets.19:39
the_mgtI wouldn't use murmurs in the first place, I just made up a scenario19:40
keithzg"hey phone, play The Light Footwork. Also, what's 5 inches in centimeters?"19:40
Stskeepsi could see it as excellent for 'remember the milk' or GTD style stuff19:41
* keithzg grumbles daily about how this supposedly metric-using country still seems to measure most things in feet and inches, and weigh things in pounds19:41
Stskeepsi could really like translation toggling..19:41
Stskeepsmurmuring a 'live translation'19:42
chem|stStskeeps: headphones for mids and his but low bass needs to be served at room temp19:42
keithzgStskeeps: Yeah, I use my Android device for to-do stuff often, but it's not something I'd feel like doing on a crowded bus, for instance. Murmurs would work well for that.19:42
the_mgtok, maybe, murmuring in order to take notes seems legit19:42
chem|stI have 5.1 headphones, they are nice, and even the bass sound is good but you mis the chair vibrating19:43
Yanielsomehow that brings to mind some random spy moview19:43
Stskeepschem|st: yeah, true19:43
Yaniela shady character grabs a device from their pocket and murmurs to it in a low voice "remember to buy milk"19:43
chem|stStskeeps: I built my own speakers, ~450eur stereo, awesome as long as you do not want surround (yet)19:44
StskeepsYaniel: sounds like a job for wearables..19:44
Stskeeps:P19:44
keithzgYaniel: "Remember to buy milk . . . and duct tape. Lots of duct tape."19:44
Stskeepsremember murmuring is audio others essentially can't hear19:44
chem|stkeithzg: can we have proper media-player before we do stuff like that please?!19:45
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keithzgchem|st: *shrug* no harm in thought experiments!19:46
dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, will it works ?19:46
Stskeepsdr_gogeta86: never know until you try it..19:47
Stskeeps:P19:47
r0kk3rzchem|st: write one yourself if nothing is sufficient19:47
dr_gogeta86I see everyday people using whatapp voice messages and I feel it like stupid think19:47
chem|sttime for som frats on fire! later!19:47
r0kk3rzthe rest of us can experiment with bluetooth mind controlling of mobile devices :P19:47
dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, jobs for your bt headset rather then my wrist computer19:48
dr_gogeta86g watch mic is so futile19:48
Yaniellike... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSyynT9IidU19:48
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r0kk3rzStskeeps: https://github.com/Katee/quietnet jolla to jolla murmuring19:51
dr_gogeta86r0kk3rz, bookmarked19:54
r0kk3rznot sure how good the jollas speakers are at repoducing that high frequency though19:55
r0kk3rzkinda ruins the effect if you can still hear it19:55
r0kk3rzworth experimenting with though19:55
Stskeepsr0kk3rz: curious19:55
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dr_gogeta86porters chan sleep tonight20:00
r0kk3rzawimaway awimaway awimaway20:02
r0kk3rzin the channel the quiet channel the porters sleep tonight20:02
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