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intemoin08:04
inteim currently trying to figure out how to get rid of google services again08:04
intewhenever i start an android app it works in the first point, but after a few minutes it probably aquires too much memory so the app would crash08:05
inteany app would crash, actually08:06
intei can find many tutorials how to "install" google play, but not how to get rid of that crap08:06
intei have like 20 gms.sth processes runnint, talk, contactsync, phone(??) etc08:06
intepretty anoying08:07
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intewill removing android support also remove all android apps i have installed?08:22
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PawkyI would dig a bit further before starting to uninstall things...08:23
the_mgtprobably not, but you can wipe the directory where the android stuff was installed, inte08:23
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intewell the thing is i do not want to uninstall my android apps08:24
the_mgtthe thing is, you cought the google virus08:24
inteonly the google services which are stealing all my ram08:24
intehehe08:24
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the_mgtI nuked my entire vm directory once, in order to get rid of the goggle08:25
inteyou mean /opt/alien?08:25
intei guess it should be fine to nuke /opt/alien/system08:25
intebtw, where does /opt/alien/system_jolla come from?08:25
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the_mgtno clue. I'd start over completely08:26
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inteok ill try removing android support from jolla store and see whats left08:27
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intewell possible not all google services ill be removed08:27
intewas a pretty bad idea to install that anyways08:27
the_mgtit is the only nice way to keep your apps updated effortlessly08:28
Pawkywhy would it be a bad idea?08:28
intePawky: what is a bad idea?08:28
Pawkyare we philosophical here?08:29
intethe_mgt: arent they also update through e.g. aptoid or amazon?08:29
chem|stPawky: it is a bad idea because it is known trouble with alien-dalvik08:29
intei guite dont get what you mean08:29
Pawkyyou said it was a bad idea to istall it ^^08:30
Pawky(install)08:30
inteah08:30
chem|stinte: and yes they update through whatever store provides an update, if a newer version shows up in Jolla store even that is taken08:30
inteyeah because i have a couple of apps running when i open any android app, filling up my ram and leading to crash/close my app08:31
intechem|st: thx08:31
intechem|st: so its fine to remove /opt/alien/system and then reinstall aliendalvik from store, or will that also wipe my settings/androidapps?08:32
chem|stinte: opt/alien is the chroot08:32
inteand do i have to remove /opt/alien/sytem_jolla as well_08:32
chem|stinte: wait a sec08:32
Pawkystill no one in here who knows why phone numbers on a contact has a globe icon to the left, and why these cannot be erased?08:32
StskeepsPawky: globe is simcard isn't it08:32
Pawkyoh.. huh... but these should be able to be deleted right?08:33
intePawky: could also be sth synced through e.g. google08:33
Pawkyinte: nope, they are not synced08:33
inteyou cant edit those08:33
inteare you sure? do you have a google account ?08:33
intein the beginning of jolla, google could only be synced one way (not editable on the phone)08:34
intethat changed later08:34
PawkyWell, these questions does not necessarily  need to be connected...08:34
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Pawkybut,I have never used any google account  for contact syncing no08:34
intehowever, if you synced contacts once that time you will still see them but cannot edit them08:34
intecheck if those numbers are stored at google as well, then you know08:35
chem|stinte: uninstall, reboot and see what is left in /data08:36
Pawkyhow would they have gotten to be synced? The only thing existing, knowing any account is google play08:36
chem|stI am not sure what you may delete but you can always mount the factory partition and look (ro only looking no touching!!!)08:36
chem|sts/partition/subvolume/08:37
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intei guess installation was sth like extracting gapps-sth and copying the content  to /opt/alien/system08:48
intetherefore i wrote kind of a uninstall script08:48
intejust pasted the output of the zip command to a file08:49
intereplaced "inflating" with rm08:49
inteand put #!/bin/sh in the first line08:49
inteim curious if that will be sufficient :)08:49
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inteor also break my android install08:50
intewhat is com.google.android.gms.persistent?08:52
inteis that google-services sth?08:53
intestill there08:53
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inteor is it emulated by the jolla aliendalvik runtime as well?08:57
integoogle is malware08:58
inteobviously08:58
intewhen i uninstall android support through the store09:13
inteand then reinstall09:13
intewill that wipe my android apps as well?09:13
inteand, more important, my settings? like my quizduell scores?09:13
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intei somehow got all the gms stuff purged from my alien dir10:11
inteand everything still seems to work10:11
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adherryhi13:13
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adherryI wonder if firefox will at some day support easy localization13:23
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intedoes it not?13:25
ggabrielwell, depends on the definition of "easy"13:26
intehttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/geolocation/13:26
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Nicd-localization does not have to do with location :)13:27
intehehe13:30
inteyes my fault :)13:30
intesorry13:30
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phlixiadherry: what do you mean with "easy localization"?13:36
phlixihttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/13:38
adherryproblem is the asshole download page13:38
adherryI am in germany13:38
adherryI use an english os13:38
adherryso it downloads the german firefox all the time13:38
adherryand to localize it I have to do stuff manually13:38
phlixihttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/#de13:38
adherryI expect firefox to behave like any application on my computer and follow the system language until I tell it otherwise13:39
phlixithen do not download the german verison?13:39
phlixihttps://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/?q=engli13:40
inteadherry: you can also use the buildin update method of firefox13:44
adherrythat will change language?13:44
inteonce you have your localized version installed, let firefox do the updates for you13:44
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adherryso when I wait 6 weeks till next major relase it will change the language?13:45
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inteadherry: it will just keep the language13:46
inteadherry: at least on linux13:46
inteeven though i havent figured out to automate the firefox-integrated update mechanism13:46
adherryI annoys me every time I download it, that I have to go to deep menus to get the correct firefox installer13:47
intei always start firefox as root and install the upgrade once it is available13:47
intei know thats somewhat lame but I dont know any other solution:(13:47
inteadherry: wtf???13:47
intedownload it once and enable auto-upgrades!13:47
adherryi mean the language13:47
intewhat is the problem with that?13:48
adherrythe language13:48
inteit wont change language13:48
adherryTHAT IS THE PROBLEM!13:48
Liekewow ...13:48
adherryadherry: I am in germany13:48
adherry[3:38pm] adherry: I use an english os13:48
adherry[3:38pm] adherry: so it downloads the german firefox all the time13:48
inteadherry: you want it to change the language everytime you upgrade so that you have to change it back afterwards?13:48
Liekeyou download it once, with the language you want. then enable auto-update and it will keep that language13:48
intethats wired13:48
adherryI want an english firefox, and default is always german when I dont get on the “other languages and systems” link13:49
adherrywith default I mean the download button delivery on mozilla.com13:49
inteadherry: if you click on "about firefox" in firefox there is a "check for new version"13:50
inteif there is a new version, click on "update"13:50
adherrydude13:50
adherryI know how to update firefox13:50
inteit wont change language then i guess13:50
adherryits just that I install it often13:50
adherryI have a love-hate relationship with it13:51
inteso if you update it the way i described, will it switch from englisch to german after the upgrade?13:51
inteadherry: ping13:52
adherryno13:52
inteso...13:52
inte?13:52
inte:)13:52
adherryit is just that I have to download it twice every time13:52
adherrythey just should allow language switching in the application13:53
inteah13:53
intethey do, dont they13:53
inte?13:53
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adherrydidnt see a “switch language” button13:53
adherryor autoswitching13:53
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intei guess if i start firefox with $LANG set to en it will be english13:54
inteif its de itll be german13:54
inteim using it in german13:54
intebut let me try13:54
adherrybut maybe I am too spoiled from os x where applications all use the system language13:54
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inteoh no it didnt switch13:55
intebut im pretty sure there is a way to switch13:56
Liekehttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Language_packs13:58
intehttps://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/quick-locale-switcher/13:58
intemaybe this is sth for you13:58
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intewups13:59
intejust change mine to japanese:)14:00
intewell partly14:00
inteit probably needs some language packs14:00
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citylight2I had chrome working a year ago14:08
citylight2I removed it and reinstalled from yandex, the program loads but I can not surf to any address14:09
citylight2I tried installing google services to solve it, it did not14:09
citylight2does anyone have a working chorme? where to get the apk for it?14:09
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intei guess i installed it once but not sure14:19
inteoh nope14:20
inteyou might sth like webpirate as well14:20
inteits webkit based i think14:20
intei have android-firefox installed though14:20
intethat works just fine14:20
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