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ottulohere's the Digitoday article from yesterday in English, if anyone's interested http://pastebin.com/yUt5Bre507:09
Stskeepsnod07:11
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Nicd-hope you didn't translate the comments07:43
Nicd-they're total digitoday quality07:44
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ottulonah, I didn't even look at them09:59
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mrx1hi, I'm considering buying jolla smartphone, but I have one question: Does it support disk encryption?12:03
coderusmrx1: "it" not support encryption, all partitions is btrfs.12:04
coderusmrx1: to do so you need to repartition things very carefully and make some ui loaded before os to ask your encryption password. so it's a lot of work and not worth it.12:06
coderussimple devicelock is useful and nobody except Jolla can ulnock your phone :)12:07
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coderusand when devicelocked you can't connect it via usb or access recovery12:07
mrx1Such a shame. Jolla seemed perfect for me, but that lack of encryption kills it for me :(12:09
zett_zelettWhat phone does have encryption?12:09
Stskeepsmrx1: we're working on disk encryption in general but no promises on it coming to jolla112:09
Stskeepsmrx1: we have a pretty hefty bootloader protection though12:09
Stskeepsbut if somebody can solder out your eMMC..12:10
Stskeeps:P12:10
mrx1zett_zelett: all modern android ones I think, at least my samsung galaxy s4 has it.12:10
zett_zelettOh!12:10
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mrx1Stskeeps: which is certainly possible in case of e.g. industry espionage12:11
Stskeepsmrx1: yup12:11
mrx1without encryption it's all security by obscurity :(12:11
Stskeepsmrx1: we understand this and want the feature but we don't have it yet12:11
mrx1ok12:12
SQUelchermrx1: you want to use disk encryption so a thief cannot access your data?12:12
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mrx1SQUelcher: yeah, that is one of example possible threats12:14
mrx1and that thief can be technologically advanced one12:15
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Stskeepsmrx1: evil maids are fun12:16
SQUelchermrx1: as the OS runs as a "virtual machine" inside the radio chipset, you would still be unprotected from undocumented attacks from your carrier12:17
coderusSQUelcher: what?12:19
StskeepsSQUelcher: what?12:19
Stskeeps:P12:19
coderustell it to ofono guys :D12:20
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mrx1SQUelcher: I don't quite understand concepct of "virtual machine in radio chipset" ( :D ), but of course, disk encryption does not make it 100% secure, there are other attack vectors (e.g. vulnerabilities in software/firmware)12:25
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kimmolidid someone change topic to tinfoil-hat area?14:03
Sail0r_oO14:04
Sail0r_ah read the backlog14:05
Sail0r_:D14:05
kimmolii can reveal that my devicelock code is 6 consecutive numbers from decimals of pi14:06
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mdxthkimmoli, shit, i have the same :)14:14
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zett_zelettHow I wish I could calculate pi.14:26
zett_zelettIs it proven that the decimal expansion of π contains all finite sequences of digits or not? I always forget.14:27
zett_zelettI think we only know that the probability that a given sequence is in π is 1.14:28
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phlixiand i guess for 6 digits you could just check :-)14:30
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Mikaelaif I moved to ed25519 SSH key (for authentication) it seems that Jolla would be the only thing where I would be locked out as there is too old SSHd14:35
Mikaelawas there some talk about it getting updated in near future?14:35
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StskeepsMikaela: afaik14:40
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Accezett_zelett: yes: https://github.com/philipl/pifs15:00
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zett_zelettphlixi: I think this is semi-decidable.15:27
zett_zelettOr rather finitely semi-decidable or whatever the correct term is.15:28
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Helleoooh, Poppy Red is back in store15:30
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* Helle ponders15:31
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pdanek1Do you guys think that KDE Plasma 5 is the future of Linux desktop?17:41
pdanek1Can it win against raising Gnome 3?17:41
Stskeepsoh dear17:42
Stskeeps:P17:43
zett_zeletti3 is the future of Linux desktop.17:43
Stskeepsi think maui project is17:43
Liekexfce is17:46
CoolgeekW10 is the futur of linux desktop17:47
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coderuswhat, Gnome isnt dead yet? I thought GTK is dead end.18:00
CoolgeekI use it at work, works fine18:01
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BlaaahHello! Does anyone know if there's a way to get Chrome working again on Jolla? Updated my Jolla to the latest update and it no longer works :( Can't find any info anywhere. Thank you.18:11
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attahBlaaah: Chrome for android? Never worked for me.. Have you checked the newly introduced android settings?18:23
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BlaaahYes. And yes I have. At first, when Jolla phone was introduced, for really long, Chrome didn't work. Then after some update, it started miraculously working. I don't know what they did, but it worked... Until this latest update.18:26
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coderusBlaaah: works fine on my jolla. so your problem is somewhere else.20:23
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