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wtwhi, can anyone tell me if it's possible to import a single contact (e.g. vcf) into an android application? and if yes, how? :)06:43
wtwI don't want e.g. whatsapp to have access to all my contacts and would prefer to add only a selected few to it06:43
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coderusthere is just a contacts database for 3rd party apps, there are no contacts databases for each apps, so no06:47
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wtwok, but 3rd party apps = android apps as well?06:49
wtwso, I would be fine with adding some contacts to android/dalvik somehow06:49
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wtwhow can I add something to this 3rd party app db?06:50
coderusyes android using same 3rd party apps database as any other unprivileged sailfish application06:50
wtwah ok, that's nice06:51
coderusyou can't do anything with 3rd party db manually06:51
coderusit automatically generates from main contacts database, it contains all contacts excluding online sync services06:51
wtwah, read about this, ok :(06:52
wtwI disabled android access to the native contacts06:52
wtwand tried to import some contacts via a 'dialer' application as proposed in "together" somewhere06:52
wtwbut that doesn't work anymore, "action not supported" or so06:53
coderusi dont know about android tricks :)06:53
wtwyeah, it's a pity this android stuff is necessary at all :(06:54
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coderusyou can use whatsup06:54
coderusits not allowing you to select contacts you want to sync?06:55
wtwI thought the developer got a "nice" letter from the whatsapp lawyers?06:55
coderusso?06:55
coderuswho knows, maybe someone else continuing develop whatsapp06:55
coderuswhatsup*06:55
wtwis there really no possibility to access the 3rd party app db?06:56
coderuswhy not, ./.local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite06:57
coderusbut do it yourself, no any instructions06:57
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wtwah, sqlite, ok that should be doablethanks06:58
wtwthanks06:58
wtwand btw, thanks for your work for the jolla ecosystem and the many apps!06:58
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Wntcoderus: you are right, the delays in the new pulley menu are frustrating08:20
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Wntalso in the lock screen the animation where the clock slides down is pretty slow08:22
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Wntsure, it's a nice animation, but I want to see what time it is, not enjoy the animation :D08:23
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ilpianistaif someone ask for a second hand TOHKBD please redirect him to me. I'm selling mine, conf is mint, carbon black, mint. QUERTY. Thanks!09:16
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Nicd-ilpianista: QWERTYÄ09:17
Nicd-ilpianista: QWERTY*09:17
ilpianistalol09:17
ilpianista:-D09:17
Nicd-how fitting that I made a typo in my typofix09:17
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OpenLoverHello, do someone here have maded experience with the TOH Solar?09:26
ottuloilpianista: how much, where?09:27
OpenLoverA user from the netherlands sell other halfs, one product of him is the Solar TOH09:31
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ilpianistaOpenLover, I read somewhere that the SolarTOH keeps the battery level almost constant (it does not charge neither discharge) when there's direct sun light09:36
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dr_gogeta86dirkvl, is him09:37
OpenLoverDo the cam not burn, or somethink like that, when its in the sun?09:37
dirkvlhello09:37
OpenLoverHello :)09:38
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OpenLoverBecause when you make a photo of the sun, the picture is a little swimmy09:39
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OpenLoverIn the eye (comparable with the camera), the retine can burn, when you look to much in the sun, and then you have eye cancer09:42
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lainwir3d\o/09:45
lainwir3dhttp://www.engadget.com/2015/09/04/parrot-zik-3-headphones/09:45
lainwir3dnew parrot headphones09:46
lainwir3dsupport in sailfish coming up :P09:46
OpenLoverOff-Topic Alarm09:46
lainwir3dyes and no, as there is an app in the store09:47
ggabrielit's cool to talk about accessories here09:49
ggabrielso not off topic at all09:49
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OpenLover*dreaming* I would have outdoorphone with Sailfish *dreaming*09:51
ggabriel?09:52
ggabrieli use my phone for outdoors activities all the time09:52
ggabrielhence a cracked screen, and still working09:52
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OpenLoveroutdoorphones are phone who resist water and other natural things09:53
ggabrieldefine resist water09:53
ggabrielthe jolla can easily go through reasonable amounts of rain/snow etc09:53
ggabrielas many other phones out there09:53
ggabrieland define "other natural things"09:53
ggabrieli'm pretty sure no phone can deal with a big enough rock, and those are very natural things09:54
OpenLoverbut there are special phone maded for outdoor09:54
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ggabrielit depends what you need and what you do09:54
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ggabrieli do a fair amount of outdoor activities and the jolla is ok for them09:54
OpenLoverlike the phone of caperpilar, who resist water and dust09:55
ggabrielnever heard of it/can't find09:56
kimmolinew such phone is launched this weekend by finnish company bittium09:56
pp_it's very very pricey, I believe :-)09:57
OpenLoverand some othe resist chocks09:57
kimmolihttp://www.bittium.com/BittiumToughMobile09:57
kimmolianother black abdroid slab ..09:58
OpenLoverHere is the name: CAT B3009:58
pp_galaxy xcover 3, maybe?09:58
ggabrielyaap09:58
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ggabrielso, what happens if i can break it with my bare hands?09:58
ggabrielwill i get my money back?09:58
ggabrielor hack into it for that matter09:59
OpenLoverYes, thats an outdoorphone09:59
ggabrielsounds like marketing09:59
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TemeVCo worker of mine has a phone that has 3 years warranty without limitations10:01
OpenLoverThe problem today with the modern phone is the snow, the touchscreen doesn't work when the particules in the screen frise10:01
TemeVso if it breaks he'll get a new one, no matter how it breaks10:01
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ggabrielOpenLover: worked for me several times?10:03
ggabriel(the jolla)10:03
OpenLoverTo the thema break, there is a Bumper TOH, in moment out of stook, who help in falls10:03
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OpenLoverThe SAR of the Jolla phone is not bad, it is placeble in the top 50 phone with the lowest SAR10:14
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OpenLoverSo it is 0.546 W/kg10:16
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baumwhat's the location of the backup files?10:39
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TemeV/home/nemo/.vault10:40
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baumalright thanks, are there any other files i could back up incase mentioned files are corrupted?10:42
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baumthe last update corrupted my whole phone, i can't acess contacts/calllogs/anything10:44
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OpenLove@baum, are you german?10:44
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baumyep, why?10:44
OpenLovecool10:44
OpenLovei am geran to10:44
OpenLovegerman *10:45
baumi see, nice10:45
TemeVbaum: I think photos and media is not in .vault so back them up10:45
TemeVthe best is to back up whole /home/nemo10:45
baumTemeV: i don't care too much about photos or media, however recovering the contacts is essential10:46
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baumalright thanks, by chance you are aware of any other file i could back up?10:46
TemeVif you made a backup from the menu the contacts are in .vault10:47
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TemeVbaum: I would backup /home/nemo just to be sure to be able to return anything in there10:48
baumalright, thanks i'm on it10:49
TemeVif for some reason the backup doesn't work you can find the original sqlite databases and return them10:49
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OpenLoveanother german?10:53
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friesehumm, the TOHKBD seems to fit quite snug - apparently i had my led on for the better part of today and didn't see it once through the Keyboard16:58
frieseJust wondering where all my battery went...16:58
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phlixisomething strange happened with the jolla store app / jolla ccount18:53
phlixi1.) maybe around a month ago, i was playing around with some carddav, caldav, owncloud stauff and while i was in the settings (because of those owncloud accounts) i noticed, thet the jolla accound had something like "not active", "deactivatd", "logged out" or something similar on it18:54
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phlixii thought, that migt be the reason that no updates where comng the last days (back then), typed in my credentials and it was no longer "logged out"18:56
phlixi2.) NOW (a month later) the store tells me, that there is an update18:56
phlixiyeah, of course, i read about it...18:57
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phlixi...by chance, i went into "my apps", and its empty18:57
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phlixiof course i have plenty apps installed18:57
phlixii suspect, that the credentials i entered a month ago, had not been those i entered (nearly) two years ago18:58
phlixidoes that make sense?18:58
meShellThe only thing I can tell you is, that there was maintenance around 2015-08-06 logging out users18:58
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meShellhttps://together.jolla.com/question/103633/official-announcement-maintenance-on-jolla-services/18:58
TemeVhttps://together.jolla.com/question/105220/since-update-to-117-my-apps-empty-in-jolla-store-app/18:58
phlixiyep,18:58
phlixibut the point is, i logged in, and according to the jolla store app i have no apps installed18:59
phlixiof course i have18:59
phlixiand usually there where updates coming every now and then, but since this logged out thingy, i got exactly once update notification (for the system update, not for any installed app)19:00
TemeVphlixi: check that tjc thread^19:00
phlixii did not installed the last updated (from a few days ago)19:01
phlixii am on 1.1.7.2819:02
phlixia, ok, in the thread its the same version..19:02
phlixii thought this is related to the "logged out" thingy, and i might have had entered credentials from a "wrong" account (might have mixed up last used account and account from jolla store or similar mixup)19:05
meShellsomebody here that uses OpenVPN on Jolla? I am currently trying with TAP in a Bridge on the Serverside, Client (Jolla) is connecting OK, I even can ssh to the Jolla from my network, but Jolla cant access anything but only the server19:06
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