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PawkyWhat happened to the "swipe down" to kill an app?08:00
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Pawky(in 2.0)08:00
sharpneliPawky: You can re-enable it in settings08:00
mornfallit's in config somewhere08:00
sharpneliSystem->Gestures08:00
Pawkygot it :-)08:00
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tore_does anyone know how to make an android web browser the system default?08:19
tore_same goes for e-mail client08:20
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urstore_: you need to add Desktop files for them and make them the default mime handler... see https://together.jolla.com/question/1836/set-default-browser/08:37
tore_urs: thanks!08:38
ursnote, however, that this gets overwritten on every update.08:38
ursSo I used it for a while, but stopped bothering after the third update.08:39
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coderusurs: overwritten? really? why?08:45
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urscoderus: dunno. Happened to me at least... or was it just renamed files when the sailfish browser got updated last time?08:45
coderusah, every update, sorry i have read it as "every reboot" :D08:46
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SvenBertiIis there someone that have a image of the newest SailFish OS?10:54
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tbrheh, that feels familiar: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18978915:42
tbrthough I think this was already working in sailfish 1.0 or briefly after that15:43
Stskeepstbr: the device still drifts like fucking mad when in airplane mode15:44
Stskeepstbr: i know relativity theory and all that, but that hong kong trip did not make me skip forward 30 minutes.. :P15:44
tbrah, right15:45
tbrI think the ntp and NITZ "fixed" this mostly15:45
Nicd-I love how everyone is piling on the bug just saying "fix iiiiit"15:45
Nicd-how all public bugtrackers end up15:45
tbrNicd-: makes you feel just like at home on tjc15:46
stephgNicd-: isn't that what bugtrackers are for? +1 me too etc. :P15:46
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tbrwell, on bugzilla.mozilla.org it used to be rather strict, you'd get told to gtfo if you don't have value to add and if there would be multiple people it would get restricted to EDITBUGS15:47
Nicd-I think all bugtrackers should have a "+1" button that does nothing except increment a counter15:48
Nicd-"click this if you too have this bug but have nothing helpful to say"15:48
tbrBMO has that, it's called votes15:48
Yanielit's not marked clearly enough15:53
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tadzik:o15:54
tadzikww15:54
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M4rtinKNicd-: +1 button == CC15:56
M4rtinKNicd-: (and that's actually what the automatic bug reporting tool (ABRT) for Fedora does if it detects a duplicate)15:57
M4rtinKalso generally many bugs being reported means someone is actually using the software, which is actually what one usually wants15:58
M4rtinKno bugs == no users15:59
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tbrautomatic tools only work for abnormal termination conditions or otherwise detectable occurences16:03
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M4rtinKsure, but that's generally quite critical and should be fixed :)16:52
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caitlinif any of your spiffy humans have torque on your jolla could you say from where you got it?18:07
caitlinrly don’t want to invoke a google in my lovely phone18:07
Stskeepstorque?18:08
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Stskeepswhat's that?18:09
nh1402isn't that the measure of turning force on an object18:11
caitlinthat crap that connects to a blueteeth obd2 reader and tells you why your car keeps stalling but mostly is used by chavs to make crappy laggy turbo dial readouts18:12
caitlinmy golf is running crap though18:12
caitlinand i dont’ really want to write all the python to grudge out the fault codes18:12
Stskeepsah.. that might be problematic due to the lack of bluetooth support in the android runtime18:12
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caitlinah, fair enuff18:16
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r0kk3rzStskeeps: its an ODBII app on android i think18:20
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Stskeepsyeah but bluetooth being the key18:20
r0kk3rzyep18:21
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r0kk3rzalthough, ive seen USB ones which might work with the tablet18:21
r0kk3rzbut usually the baud rate for ODBII is only useful for minor diagnostics anyway18:22
kimmoliwifi obd works (just sayin)18:22
r0kk3rzthey make wifi ones now? of course they do18:22
kimmoliofc.18:22
r0kk3rzwifi devices dont always seem to work with alien-dalvik anyway18:23
kimmolii started writing obd native app, but didn't get a good name for the app :P18:23
r0kk3rzthe name is the most important part18:23
kimmoliyes, and the sdk asks it when you start...18:24
r0kk3rzand if i see another app called sailnoun i think i'll die inside18:24
kimmolibest i came up was "anchobdii"18:24
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r0kk3rzoutboard18:26
r0kk3rzthats what id call it18:27
r0kk3rzalthough maybe its time to grow out of the nautical theme18:27
kimmolion tablet, when display goes off, it will be a paddle18:28
r0kk3rzi was thinking, it should be possible to get systemd hibernate working on the tablet18:28
r0kk3rzwhich would be cool and useful18:28
kimmoliwho makes app called harbour? harbour-harbour , or is it reserved?18:29
r0kk3rzdry dock18:29
r0kk3rztheres another name for it18:29
kimmoliwasnt that planned for the pc-suite?18:29
r0kk3rzi dont know, theres a big thread with names and thats about it18:30
r0kk3rzhavent seen nor heard about any pc suite thing18:30
kimmoliwell, there is a memo about it.18:31
kimmolidiscussion was between "shovels" and "space exploration"18:31
r0kk3rzspace shovels18:33
r0kk3rzhopefully they'll do an interation meeting thing soon and we'll get an update to the roadmap18:34
r0kk3rzseems to have been a while18:34
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madkyou know you can just go to a shop and they'll most likely do a reading for free?18:40
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Nokius_workr0kk3rz: yes they do u can controll the car easyer now iirc it was the ad once18:46
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r0kk3rzNokius_work: well more stuff is connected to the CANBUS which can make the ODBII a bit more fun to play with18:51
r0kk3rzbut generally its nice to know that the computer agrees with what you see in the engine bay, and all its sensors are working properly18:52
Nokius_work:D18:52
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MoritzJTThanks for the latest update, really enjoy that! I have seen mosens video and was pleased by the answers given to him about the indicativity of the performance tool19:11
MoritzJThttps://together.jolla.com/question/116731/question-framerate-display-in-developer-mode/19:11
MoritzJTNice stuff! It runs fluid on my device :-)19:11
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r0kk3rzso this is the third major compositor rewrite?19:15
r0kk3rzwell, second rewrite i guess19:16
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MoritzJTSecond afaik19:18
MoritzJTFirst one came rather early didn't it?19:18
MoritzJTQT 5.x and so on?19:18
Helleah, that breaks my experimental redshift code again19:19
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MoritzJTExperimental as confidential, non public, you can't have it? :D19:20
MoritzJTI use flux on *barf* windows19:21
MoritzJTredshift seems nicer!19:21
HelleMoritzJT: redshift is quite nice, my version for the phone is a bit simplistic, but works because you can jam a shader on top of the compositor19:22
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coderuswhat redshift does?19:28
coderusjust drawing transparent color layer?19:28
Hellecoderus: no, it uses a matrix transform shader19:33
Helleand I implement the same transform19:33
coderusopensource?19:35
Helleyep19:35
coderuslink please :)19:35
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Helleoh, you mean to redshift or my hack to do the same on Jolla ?19:35
Hellethe latter I haven't published yet as it takes manual work to apply19:36
coderusyour sailfish hack :)19:36
Helleah, yeah, that is not yet online pending a bit more stability and me figuring out a way to apply it in runtime19:36
Helles/in/at/19:36
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coderuspublish it to tjc at least with instructions :)19:39
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MoritzJTlooking forward to it19:39
HelleI'll see about it this weekend19:40
nh1402redshift is just like  f.lux right?19:42
r0kk3rznh1402: yeah19:43
r0kk3rzshifts colour balance in sync with daylight hours19:43
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nh1402i use f.lux all the time, but found redshift to be too strong on the phone19:44
Hellenh1402: you can adjust how strong it is19:45
nh1402is redshift available on phones i can't find it19:46
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r0kk3rznh1402: likely looks into something the jolla doesnt have19:46
r0kk3rz*hooks19:46
nh1402I was talking about on the google play store, all I see is twighlight and bluelight19:47
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Helleredshift is for Linux and it's not currently availible19:47
HelleI wrote an equivilent19:47
Hellebut it's a horrible hack as I have to patch some QML files19:48
r0kk3rzHelle: yeah it would be nice to have something lower level to tweak colour balance with19:48
r0kk3rzbe great for tablet19:48
Heller0kk3rz: yep19:49
Heller0kk3rz: well, this thing can do generic colour balance tweaking aswell19:49
r0kk3rzi think that will be on the list of the many things to hack with on the tablet19:49
Heller0kk3rz: as soon as I have a tablet i'll see if I can straight up port it19:49
Helleat the moment my phone needs to still be sent back because it has a broken speaker19:49
coderusHelle: qml is same for all platforms19:50
r0kk3rzyes, still need to receive one of those tablet things...19:50
Hellecoderus: cool, that saves a lot of work19:50
Helleanyway not have updated it for the latest update yet,s o that is a thing I now need to do first19:51
nh1402I thought f.lux was supposed to work in Linux, without a ui19:52
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coderusHelle: make a patch with settings applet ;)19:54
Hellecoderus: the settings applet actually also works19:55
Hellethat was something I already wrote for it19:55
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coderuscool :)19:58
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MoritzJTdepends on how redshift (f.lux is windows only right?) interacts with linux20:01
MoritzJTdoes it do some wayland / x interaction or on another approach?20:01
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r0kk3rzMoritzJT: seems to bang on XRandR20:12
r0kk3rzwith no waylandish implementation20:12
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StskeepsHelle: tablet uses hwcomposer extensively so i'm not sure it'd be able to :/20:18
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HelleStskeeps: mmm, that would be a problem indeed20:18
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japa-fiiHi. How do i force my jolla for 2g? Apparently only way to use jolla in usa22:51
japa-fiiCant find anything from settings...22:51
nh1402I would say *#*#4636#*#* but it doesn't work in Sailfish22:54
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japa-fiiI recall earlier sailfish os had the option to select netwrk operation mode22:55
nh1402that would open up an app in Android with Phone information, where you can change it to 2g, which I have to do manually since it doesn't automatically change to 2g normally which is stupis, and on my Nexus 5 in Sailfish it lets you pick 2, 3 or 4g even now22:56
nh1402not sure why yours isn't22:56
eugenioSettings -> Mobile Network -> Network Mode22:58
japa-fii:( my iphone frieds cant stop making fun of me... On my last visit i had n900, which was ancient. But now having "new" phone and still cant use it in usa...23:00
japa-fiiNetwrk mode is greyed out as i am currently not connected.23:00
eugeniohm23:01
eugenioperhaps there is a way to set it anyways23:01
japa-fiiNot connected because 2g not enabled. Cant enable cause not connected. Catch-2223:01
eugeniohehe23:02
eugeniodo you have developer mode enabled?23:02
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japa-fiiWell, leaving back to europe in 3 days...23:02
japa-fiiYes i have23:02
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eugeniohm, perhaps it can be done with some dbus magic23:05
japa-fiiIf you know the magic words, im willing to test23:06
eugenioI'm trying :)23:06
japa-fiiOr have suggestion for lures/spells....23:06
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eugeniodbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"gsm"23:11
japa-fiiI need to get my tojkbd to type that long lure in...23:12
eugenioheh, or a ssh shell :)23:13
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japa-fiiIs there space in /ril_0 org.ofono...  ?23:16
eugenioyes23:16
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japa-fiiI was about to write the command reply string.... Just that my phone is busy receiving smses :)23:22
japa-fiiWorking!!!23:22
japa-fiiThanks23:22
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eugeniogreat :D23:23
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