#jollamobile log for Wednesday, 2015-12-09

phlixifortunately android version eco is so spread (compared to ios) everyone has to still support it (even for a while)00:00
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pdanek2coderus: is it significant amount of work to move to 5 or 6?00:01
pdanek2& phlixi00:01
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coderuspdanek2: i know nothing about android :)00:06
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phlixithere will be no update00:16
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pdanek2phlixi: like ever?00:25
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AciidWhich comes first, Jolla Tablet or Tax Returns?00:40
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fennekkiAciid: tax returns for which year01:02
phlixi:D01:02
lpotter:(01:04
Aciidfennekki: torilla tavataan 8)01:05
fennekki:DD01:08
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mornfallno news?09:52
SceltI guess community is growing somewhat impatient :P09:53
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ggabrielo/09:54
ggabrielsoooo, ff os dead for smartphones09:55
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lainwir3dggabriel: source ?10:03
pdanek2lainwir3d: just google it, I think loads of sources10:03
lainwir3d:-(10:03
lainwir3dI was lazy10:03
lainwir3dwell, alright10:04
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sjnlainwir3d: here's one: http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/08/mozilla-will-stop-developing-and-selling-firefox-os-smartphones/10:04
lainwir3dsjn: thanks :)10:04
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mornfallit's smartphone autumn, operating systems dropping like dead leaves10:05
* sjn wonders how the sailfishos-on-fairphone2 thing will turn out10:08
tbrwho was working on that?10:08
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Stskeepstbr: think group of porters but i'm not sure fp2's source tree is public yet10:13
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tbrStskeeps: community or jolla porters?10:14
tbror fairphone employees?10:14
Stskeepstbr: a bit of both i think, i don't have good visibility of it10:14
sjn:\10:17
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lainwir3d:/10:18
* sjn wonders why people keep thinking that "secret" open source development works10:18
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pdanekmerbot: seen TMavica12:27
merbotpdanek: TMavica was last seen in #jollamobile 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <TMavica> Will Jolla HK office move too?12:27
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cybette7 min to community collaboration meeting in #mer-meeting14:23
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sharixBeginner's question: What's the "autofs" mojo in SfOS? /meda/sdcard/*ID* get's somehow auto-mounted?!?16:14
stephgsharix: yes16:16
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stephglooks for the blkid of the device, so tracker can remember it16:16
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sharixstephg: What daemon is responsible for auto-mounting? systemd?16:17
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stephgsharix: possibly, whatever it is calls a shell script iirc16:19
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pdanekInteresting, I didn't know!17:39
pdanekIt seems that Plasma Mobile was (and from major part still is) developed closely by KDE guys working for Bluesystems, as part of their full-time job.17:39
pdanekSo it didn't really start of community project much, but it is now open for community.17:40
pdanekI wonder what's business plan of Bluesystems.17:40
pdanekIf they have any bigger vision and potentially will hire more and more developers.17:41
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tbrpdanek: actually plasma mobile was pushed a lot by another kde related company initially: basyskom17:44
phlixi_o_pdanek: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems17:44
phlixi_o_of if you are able to read german: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems17:45
phlixi_o_"no businesmodel"17:46
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pdanekphlixi: thanks!17:52
phlixi_o_so its kind of canonical style17:52
pdanekphlixi: well, Canonical has money from server support17:53
pdanekso they can afford to spend17:53
pdanekand I would imagine they wanna monetize Ubuntu Touch in the future17:53
r0kk3rzblue systems could have a similar money making scheme17:53
r0kk3rzpdanek: shuttleworth is megalomaniac enough not to monetize everything to death17:54
pdanekr0kk3rz: :D17:54
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phlixi_o_my perception wasi/is, that canonical and blue systems is kind of the same, they havea  big patron17:55
phlixi_o_it is new to me, that canonical actually makes significant amount of money with anything17:56
phlixi_o_so both are more or les hobby projects :-)17:56
phlixi_o_(from people with more hobby budget then me :D )17:57
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pdanekphlixi: they were big patron, nowadays Canonical is starting to make quite some money from support/subscriptions for Ubuntu Server17:59
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pdanekThey're still in loss, because they do more and more development and now even mobile, so Shuttleworth has to donate and continue being patron, but they definitely produce significant amount of money.18:01
phlixi_o_pdanek: sorrys, onnly german source, but i think "making money" is something differen, reads more like "burning money" http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Ubuntu-Firma-Canonical-Mehr-Umsatz-mehr-Verlust-2085498.html18:02
phlixi_o_gn8 :-)18:02
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pdanekphlixi: thanks18:04
pdanekphlixi: btw that's 2 years old18:05
pdanekgrowth of Ubuntu Server in past 2 years was significant18:05
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pdanekGuys!18:12
pdanekPlease18:12
pdanekI need Jolla to grow!18:12
pdanekWHat should we do :D18:12
ln-look at it through a magnifying glass18:14
pdanekI just realized the sadness of whole community, when we had great OS called Maemo, everyone was expecting Maemo 6, big growth etc.... then everything was delayed a bit, due to creation of MeeGo, but it was still fine.18:14
pdanekThen MeeGo died, any other effort to bring Linux to Mobile was in very early stages and basically no hope for next few years.18:15
cehtehFirefoxOS is dead too18:15
pdanekFinally Jolla has recreated everything that we had few years ago and catched up with market.18:15
pdanekAnd if it dies now.... ya, we have Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile, etc... but again, huge step back and need to wait another 2 years to get anything with functionality close to Sailfish18:16
pdanekevery time when we finally see great OS, it dies18:16
pdanekwhere can I send my money? :D18:16
kimmoliwindows is still alive18:16
kimmoli:P18:16
* tiwake slaps kimmoli 18:17
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pdanekIf Sailfish really dies, I will probably give up and just use Android18:18
pdanekcan't start using half-done Linux OSes again and keep waiting and waiting18:18
pdanek10M eur is nothing.... why nobody sees the potential of Sailfish?18:19
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djselbeckNo business model behind it to make money?18:19
cehtehif its nothing, just open your purse and pay18:19
nomeatapdanek: again? sounds like you had an OpenMoko phone before :-)18:20
kimmolii have only 9M left...18:20
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r0kk3rzpdanek: you can send money to mer18:22
pdaneknomeata: well, Sailfish was half done 2 years ago, kind of.... early Maemo wasn't perfect too.... I had first Android phone too, definitely not perfect...18:22
pdaneknomeata: I tried OpenMoko18:22
pdanekBut I couldn't use it as daily driver, I'm too pratical, I want to get things done.18:22
tiwakepdanek: yeah18:23
tiwakeoptions are good, but fail options don't help18:24
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r0kk3rzubuntu touch is most likely the closes sailfishos-alike18:31
r0kk3rznot in UI, but in terms of readiness18:31
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tiwakeI used iOS for my first time a few days ago... wanted to claw my eyes out18:34
tiwakeI don't know why so many people like it, the UI is horrible18:35
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r0kk3rztiwake: i do feel like ive been thrown back to the darkages when i try and do something on an android phone18:35
r0kk3rzusually a samsung18:35
tiwakeiOS is very not intuitive18:36
r0kk3rzwhose idea was it to have light up touch buttons that only light up *after* you've pressed them?18:36
tiwakeat all18:36
tiwakeit felt like I was trying to do stuff to a domain on the godaddy website18:37
tiwakeor windows vista18:37
r0kk3rzyeah i dont put much stock in various peoples ideas of 'intuitive'18:37
r0kk3rzintuitive = matches the other stuff ive already learnt from other platforms18:38
r0kk3rzwhich is of course, dependant on the persons previous platforms18:38
tiwakemostly, but not entirely18:38
r0kk3rzi kinda like ubuntu touch, but it did take me a good 10 min to defeat the lockscreen18:39
r0kk3rzso in that case, it wasnt very intuitive for me18:40
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jaacoppiit proves that the lock screen works18:49
pdanekr0kk3rz: I agree about intuitive!18:50
pdanekhttp://www.fastcodesign.com/1672172/why-intuitive-interface-is-a-myth18:50
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r0kk3rzjaacoppi: zero feedback, zero UI ques, and you have to swipe from outside the left side of the screen to the right18:53
r0kk3rzsince it was an 'alpha' release port, i thought it had frozen18:54
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pdanekBtw, it's so sad that oom-killer forced me to use majority of my apps in Android version.19:01
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pdanekIf I use Sailfish Youtube, Twitch, video player, or some messengers... I was almost getting my app killed by every minimize action.19:02
pdanekWhile when I use Android version, it stays alive.19:02
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cb400fooh, some good news... Antti Saarnio said at slush that Intex will be available globally and on western markets19:07
r0kk3rzpdanek: interesting19:07
r0kk3rzi would expect the android ones would be more hungry19:08
pdanekr0kk3rz: I use A LOT of Android apps in background19:08
r0kk3rzbut perhaps oom treats them differently19:08
pdanekso even when I boot my phone, Skype, Line, Viber and Telegram will start in background.19:08
pdanekwhich causes there is not much memory left19:08
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r0kk3rzyeah its a wonder it works at all19:09
r0kk3rzall of that spyware running at once19:09
pdanekand even with almost empty homescreen, having just 1-2 native apps like youtube player or video player, they are constantly getting killed maybe every 10th-20th minimize19:09
pdaneksometimes every 2nd minimize, in extreme situations19:09
pdanekand those are recently used apps!19:09
pdanekso I watch youtube, minimize and it gets killed19:09
r0kk3rzvideo plays are a bit hungry i guess19:09
pdanekso oom seems really poorly tuned19:09
pdanekr0kk3rz: I agree with Spyware side of things :D, but I need to communicate19:10
r0kk3rzyeah i was looking forward to having a swap file on the tablet19:10
pdanekand I can't spend 8 hours a day trying to convince many people to switch to that or that protocol :D19:10
r0kk3rz2gb ram + zram swap + swap file = never ever oom ever again19:10
pdanekr0kk3rz: "No one will need more than 2GB memory?"19:11
r0kk3rzplus i wanted to try and get hibernate to work too, which will need a swap file19:11
pdanek:D19:12
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rigohi, is there a way to play avi files on jolla?19:14
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tiwakescrew skype19:14
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tiwakepdanek2: have you looked at discord.gg?19:15
jaacoppirigo: Watch'me should work19:16
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pdanektiwake: again, I'm not going to convince people to start using discord just because I use it, so I'm bind to Skype unfortunately19:19
pdanektiwake: only person whoI convince is my girlfriend, so we use Telegram with each other, due to convenient web client which works on my work PC even behind firewall19:20
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tiwakepdanek: ah ok19:21
pdanektiwake: but it looks nice, thanks for info19:21
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tiwakepdanek: I mostly just use IRC :P19:21
pdanektiwake: I think nobody who I know from physical world uses IRC anymore :D19:22
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pdanekstill, not anymore19:24
JopeI know a lot of people on irc :-)19:24
pdanekwrong word19:24
Jopeircnet even, the only network worth keeping19:24
tiwakepdanek: having been to college, I've met a few who do, also met a few from IRC who I found out lived fairly close19:24
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pdanekIRC is great for public chat, but not really for private chat19:26
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JopeI don't see a problem19:27
tiwakeIRC isnt bad for single person private chat19:29
Mikaelawhat is wrong with private chat?19:29
pdanekMikaela: no push messages, no offline messages, no encryption, no filesharing/photo sharing etc.19:30
pdanekin 2015, people want modern communication19:30
tiwakeSSL IRC?19:31
pdanekIRC is dark ages :D19:31
Smartiwake: useless :P19:31
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SmarI guess irc’s going to die due entry level being too high19:31
r0kk3rz'modern' communication, which is somehow worse than the things we had 10 years ago19:31
Smarno-one wants to learn 5 seconds more than installing perfectly viable program takes19:31
tiwakeIRC is dark ages my butt19:31
Mikaelapush messages depend on client (znc has module), oflline messages need bouncer/client in tmux/screen, TLS exists and so does OTR19:31
pdanekoh, ok19:32
SmarMikaela: and you say you can install all that by installing simple program?19:32
AcceSmar: good, that leaves all the sensible guys in the IRC, and others out ;)19:32
pdanekbut it's mostly DIY solutions?19:32
tiwakeSmar: ist that mostly server side?19:32
MikaelaSmar: can you test how high level it takes to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:+6697/#jollamobile?nick=Jolla?19:32
SmarAcce: :>19:32
Smartiwake: well, servers aside, as long as not everyone (in the channel) is using ssl, it’s virtually useless19:32
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MikaelaSmar: can you test how high level it takes to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:+6697/ ?19:32
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MikaelaSmar: can you test how high level it takes to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:+6697/#Jollamobile ?19:33
SmarMikaela: I don’t want to write that address every time in my devices x, y and z19:33
Mikaelamy head doesn't work and I don't remember the syntax for specifying nick with random numbers19:33
MikaelaSmar: you might be interested in http://ircv3.net/19:33
MikaelaSmar: that is why there are URL shorteners19:33
Smaralso does it support sharing data between instances?19:33
Mikaelaor even embed webchats19:33
Mikaelano19:33
SmarI’m just trying to offer some points that would occur to me if someone tried to push IRC to me :)19:34
SmarI don’t *want* to deal with something I don’t see any point to use19:34
Mikaelahttps://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.net:+6697/?nick=Windows?##windows19:36
Mikaelathat was the syntax and that would work for average person wanting support with Windows in real time discussion19:36
Smarsure, but how you are going to figure that out when you first hear the word IRC?19:37
Mikaelayou probably won't, but if you were asking me for help I would proably throw that link to you19:37
Smaryes, but then it’s just you doing the work19:38
tiwakethe point is that IRC is badass, but nobody knows it ;)19:38
Smarx)19:39
FireFlyThe thing that's annoying to me about "usual" IM is that it wastes so much space and is hard to follow conversations19:40
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Smarany they’re often not even relatively open in any way19:41
Smarbut well, they’re easy to use, they have someone who benefits from selling the product so they are getting advertisement...19:42
tiwakeand use tons of resources... etc. etc.19:42
tiwakediscord.gg seems pretty sane for the most part19:42
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tiwakeno linux client yet though, other than android19:43
Smartiwake: there’s mumble already19:43
tiwakeyeah19:43
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tiwakemumble isnt good for text communication though19:44
SmarI’m using it for that atm :P19:44
Smartoo lazy to sell IRC to that person... it was so much easier to set up mumble for it19:44
tiwakediscord has a pretty good mix between sane voice and sane text communication19:44
Smarmumble (for text) is not really suitable for mobile communication though, but bleh, happens19:45
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SmarI guess I should do my own client but with all those random strong encryption things and no ready library, I don’t want to :D19:45
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rigothanks jaacoppi, I think it is a codec issue. Which triggers installing stuff, which triggers reinstalling the account that the kiddies have lost, which triggers repairing their mail.... :(19:50
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pdanek1Honestly.20:19
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pdanek1or no, nothing20:19
pdanek1:D20:19
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rigowhere do I get gst-plugins-bad-extra?21:04
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pdanekStskeeps: that J0lla Polska is getting really annoying... https://twitter.com/J0lla_PL/status/66776776183428710521:14
r0kk3rzpdanek: so dont pay attention? people say all kinds of things on twitter21:14
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Smar:D21:15
pdanekr0kk3rz: I don't, came into it by accident now.21:15
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Smarwhat they say, haters are sign of success21:15
r0kk3rzi dont really use twitter, so im not sure how easy it is to stumble upon such things21:16
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r0kk3rzbut i am familiar with that twitterer21:16
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fennekkiyknow21:16
tigelithere's lot of shit on twitter21:16
tigeliand lots of good stuff21:16
fennekkihas there ever *been* a Tizen device21:16
tigelithere are few21:17
pdanekfennekki: they're selling quite well in India21:17
Stskeepspdanek: blocking works miracles21:17
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pdanekhttp://www.businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/13027-expansion-tizen-samsung-z3-tizen-smartphone-ranks-4th-sales-less-1-month-after21:20
Smarmarketing power :)21:21
pdanekyep21:21
pdanekbut that's what happened with Maemo/MeeGo21:21
pdanekI know many people who had Nokia N900 and had no idea abot OS running on it.21:21
pdanekThey just bought it because it was Nokia.21:22
Smaryeap :P21:22
Smarmajority couldn’t care less about the OS it runs21:22
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pdanekNo offense to Antti, but maybe he should either acquire better speakig skills and English accent, or give the honor to someone else. :D ...just watching https://youtu.be/BjnNvjcrQeo21:26
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Smarwell, finnish accent is annoying as hell :P21:27
TemeVnice rallying english21:27
tigeliwell, there are many other accents which are more annoying as you can't tell what the hell speaker is saying21:28
Smartiwake: I kind of think it’s better if it sounds good and no-one understands nothing than you speak clearly but the listening person wants to kill you21:29
kimmolimandatory rallienkku https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orVBkI0m9ZY21:30
tigelikimmoli: +121:30
tigelithe hand gesture in the end <321:31
pdaneklol21:31
TemeVI was trying to find the "race was bad but car was good" I'm not sure if it's from a real interview though21:32
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pdanekThe difference is, that I really wanna listen to that Slush presentation, because the content interests me, but listening to the accent is killing me.21:32
pdanekWhile if I play Apple presentation, even if I don't really care, it's just beautiful to watch/listen.21:33
pdanek:D21:33
Smarpdanek: yeah what I said ;)21:34
pdanekSo with all respect to other nationalities (I'm not English native as well), if CEO isn't native speaker, he shouldn't do full presentation by himself, but get some help.21:34
pdanekBecause it's like face of the company.21:35
Smarwell, can even be non-native, as long it can speak with charismatic voice :P21:35
pdanekohm true21:35
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kimmolihttps://youtu.be/ax69jpf0p6c?t=52s21:38
kimmolihorruple21:38
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dr_gogeta86got pkcon on stuck21:45
dr_gogeta86any hint21:45
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* rigo impressed by the anti-pattern21:47
rigoor better, the Antti - Pattern :)21:48
dr_gogeta86we need a call for quality on openrepos21:49
pdanekwait!21:50
pdanekI just reached 10:40 in the presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjnNvjcrQeo21:50
pdanekhttps://youtu.be/BjnNvjcrQeo?t=10m32s21:51
rigooh, you look in reverse order21:51
pdanekAntti guarantees the delivery of all tablets.21:51
pdanekHe didn't say when, but he guarantees it will happen.21:52
r0kk3rzpdanek: antti sounds very finnish21:53
rigobest finnish accent ever21:53
rigoI with this CEO, jolla should start cloud operations NOW. :) Because people will trust jolla servers.21:53
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r0kk3rzpdanek: it is typical finnish matter-of-fact tone, not the marc style buzzwordy hype machine21:55
pdanek:D21:55
Smarbut it doesn’t work with english at all :P21:56
Smareven with finnish, it usually helps to sell something if you can get over that tone :P21:56
Smar(and the tone is not even tied to the accent...)21:56
rigoSmar:  bah, sure it does. This is the best trust marketing ever. No beautified gloss over stuff. This is simple and true :)21:56
Smarrigo: I wouldn’t buy :P21:56
rigogo get yourself be spied by some android :-P21:57
pdanekrigo: simple and true?21:57
pdanekhe just guaranteed taht everyone will get tablets21:57
rigopdanek: I haven't said "it is". I said "it sounds"21:57
dr_gogeta86some one can help me with ssu r21:58
dr_gogeta86which username21:58
rigopdanek: I'm too much of a bloody lawyer to believe in oral statements :)21:58
dr_gogeta86wich domain21:58
r0kk3rzpdanek: slush was before the financing problems21:58
pdanekr0kk3rz: it doesn't matter, when you guarantee something, you should be 100% sure you can deliver, it means you must have all resources and money NOW21:59
pdanekso it was CEO fail to say that sentence21:59
rigopdanek: I don't know if you have a television21:59
pdaneknope21:59
pdanek:D21:59
r0kk3rzpdanek: are there any 100% guarantees in life?21:59
rigoah!21:59
Smarrigo: well, I’m not really considering how to sell jollas to tech-savvy people, it’s the other people I’d want to have some trick to sell to :)21:59
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rigoApple sold first to tech people who explained to other people why this is great22:00
Smarrigo: sold what?22:00
pdanekmerbot: seen TMavica22:00
merbotpdanek: TMavica was last seen in #jollamobile 1 week, 3 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <TMavica> Will Jolla HK office move too?22:00
TemeVpdanek: so "I'm quite sure we can deliver the tablets" would be better?22:00
rigojolla is the only non-spying alternative out there after the end of FirefoxOS today22:00
taaemrigo: not counting ubuntu touch?22:01
pdanekrigo: how is Cyanogen OS spying?22:01
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rigopdanek: do you need a google account to use it?22:01
rigo[X] Yes22:01
pdanekrigo: no22:01
pdanekrigo: do you need Jolla account to use Jolla?22:02
pdanekhow do you know Jolla doesn't spy?22:02
pdanekwho gives you guarantee?22:02
rigopdanek: have you heard the finnish accent of the CEO?22:02
TemeVWasn't there some Cyanogen account thingy?22:02
pdanekrigo: :D22:02
pdanekgood one22:02
rigopdanek: maybe now you understand what I mean :)22:02
TemeVI recall something like that from my wife's phone, but I'm not really sure was it mandatory22:03
rigoin anyway, it needs more techies to install cyanogen than it takes to buy a jolla22:03
TemeVYou can buy a one plus device22:04
rigoand you still need quadcore procs to have some acceptable performance22:04
r0kk3rzpdanek: yep, very concise, matter-of-fact finnish way of speaking. I think next year they should let me do it22:04
pdanekTemeV: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/introducing-the-cyanogen-apps-package22:04
rigowhich in turn makes your battery live for one day max22:04
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pdanekrigo: Cyanogen OS is sometimes well tuned for slower smartphones, they did great job with WileyFox Swift phone, 130 pounds phone which runs amazingly22:05
pdanekif you need affordable European Android phone, go for WileyFox22:06
pdanekthe Swift model, cheaper one22:06
rigoBTW, if they ever get back on their feet, jolla's market are high end gadget lovers22:06
rigothe people around me using jolla would have bought an iPhone instead22:06
rigoso biggest threat is iOS 9.1 encryption and Apple privacy moves ...22:07
rigoanyway, have to go now22:08
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taaemintex will be available internationally?22:08
r0kk3rzhaha, gentleyman, such a fin way of saying gentlemen, over emphasising the vowels22:08
pdanektaaem: Initially just India, if it will ever become available.22:11
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JollaSailor_Simoluca22:24
Luca247ahoy sailors :)22:24
JollaSailor_Simohola!22:25
Luca247greetings from another sailors in italy :)22:25
Luca247dimmi cmq22:25
JollaSailor_Simoniente22:25
JollaSailor_Simoora funziona quindi apposto22:25
Luca247bene... :)22:26
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Luca247anyway sto client irc è fatto benissimo...22:28
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JollaSailor_Simoinfatti é anche comodissimo22:28
JollaSailor_Simosopratutti quando lo minimizzi che da le notifiche tipo whatsapp22:29
JollaSailor_Simose qualcuno ti nomina ovviamente22:29
Luca247eh ovvio...22:29
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Luca247ne approffitto22:29
Luca247a quick question22:30
Luca247is there someone using whatsup native client on here? :)22:30
dr_gogeta86guys in english pls22:32
dr_gogeta86Luca247, me and many others22:32
Luca247ok will post in english :)22:32
Luca247anyway just wanted to know how do you play aac files inside the app22:33
JollaSailor_Simoyeah we know we were just checking if it was working :P22:33
Luca247i have gstreamer installed22:33
Luca247ultimate codec22:33
Luca247faad 222:33
Luca247and all of their dependencies but i can only play ogg files inside the app22:34
Luca247for aac i have to search for voice recording in the hidden whatsup folder and then play it from there...22:34
Luca247suggestions? :)22:34
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