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Bono_NLWill the SailfishOS roadmap recieve an update soon or is the person who took care of that job "laid off"?09:37
Bono_NLhttps://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/09:38
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roborohello people14:51
roboroI think I may have bricked my phone... is there anywhere that I can download a copy of /dev/mmcblk0p28 from a freshly installed phone so that I don't have to send this phone back to Jolla14:53
roborounfortunately I was out of space and I used a loopback mount to add another device off an sdcard... I forgot I was still using that when I rebooted...14:55
roborothings have gone from bad to worse and now in the recovery console things segfault at the drop of a hat14:55
roboroany help would be appreciated...14:56
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stephgroboro what things segfault14:59
roborostephg: okay, so umount for one... so if I mount -o degraded... then when I umount it segfaults14:59
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stephgare you able to start an ssh daemon I wonder from the recovery shell15:00
stephgso you can copy (static) binaries over15:00
roborosomewhere along the line... I started getting loads of btrfs errors on a check... so I took the terrible option of trying to repair15:01
stephgthat said I don't remember if if umount and friends are in busybox15:01
roborolet me see if there is a way to fire up an sshd15:01
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roboronah... no ssh in recovery mode... but I could copy onto sdcard and mount that15:03
roborobut really at this point, I think that the odds of recovering /dev/mmcblk0p28 on this phone are low... so just nuking it and starting again seems a fair option... unfortunately for that I would need an image15:04
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stephgroboro: so people aren't allowed to distribute images15:05
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roborohttps://together.jolla.com/question/56009/backup-of-devmmcblk0p28/15:05
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coderusnetcat?15:21
dunpvery useful tool :)15:23
stephgcoderus: yeah nc would work15:23
coderushttps://coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/README.html15:24
coderushttps://coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/jolla-factory.tar.xz15:24
coderus1.0.8.19 version15:24
roborothanks coderus15:26
coderusyou can also do in pro mode without sdcard, using netcat over network directly to dd :D15:31
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roborocoderus: I owe you big time... I have the image and I will reload it shortly... I need to do a reboot here beforehand though15:33
roborowill report back in a bit and let you know how it goes... will also make a point to donate back to you once I'm up and running again :)15:34
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roborogood idea to dd over netcat... this seems to be going well16:10
roborotaking some time though... but that's to be expected for 14G of data16:11
Siddedd over netcat16:11
Siddethat sounds almost so weird it could be something from a movie :D16:11
roboroSidde: I'm restoring a partition on my phone... with the expert advice of stephg and coderus...16:12
Tofecoderus: is the bootloader of SFOS 2.0 sill compatible with this old rom ?16:12
Sidderoboro: ah16:12
roboroTofe: ah... now you have me worried...16:12
roborowe'll discover soon enough16:13
Sidderoboro: even better, wifi on a mobile phone... :D16:13
Siddeor maybe it's a usb link. then it's a bit bitter16:14
Sidderoboro: but i wil check back later and read the backlog to see if you're successfull16:14
roboroits over usb... so hopefully not too long16:14
Siddegood luck16:14
* roboro holds thumbs... otherwise this phone is a brick and I will have to return to the horrible android market16:15
TofeAh, thinking of that, my warranty expired just some days ago...16:16
roborommmm I think mine too16:16
TofeMaybe it's time to dd the whole thing while it's still up and running16:16
SpeedEvilroboro: good luck16:16
roborowould be a good idea to backup those partitions16:16
roboroman oh man... I wish I had known about this ages back16:17
Sidderoboro: what happened in the first place?16:17
roborostarted to run into the disk too full issue16:19
roboroit was actually an android app that nailed me16:19
Siddeah16:19
Siddei've read about those issues with the full disk16:20
roboroits not pretty... and quite difficult to fix... unfortunately I made a few mistakes... largely due to the fact that it was after midnight and I was fuelling my debugging with whisky... this is not a recommended bug solving approach16:21
roboroI actually recovered the phone for a while... but had nuked the android stuff that was causing a problem...16:22
roborothen I tried to get clever to restore things... and that's when I started running into issues16:22
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roboroyawn... still copying... I'm off to get some tea16:30
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Tofehow big is mmcblk0p28, again?16:52
Tofeah, 15GB.16:56
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SQUelchera friend just filed a paypal customer protection thing, as he bought a tablet from the store..17:08
SQUelchera shame...17:08
eugenioI hope one of the mentioned surprises contain a full refund17:09
eugeniootherwise I have to go that route too17:09
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coderusi will wait my tabet anyway :D17:23
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roborofyi... the image worked and my phone booted... I am back to 1.0.8.19 again... so several updates to install etc... and of course I lost any existing data... but at least my phone is functional again18:31
roborocoderus... I owe you big time... if you do bitcoin... I could transfer you some dosh... otherwise I'll check the donate link on one of your apps18:35
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coderusroboro: paypal prefered but have bitcoins wallet as well for emergency cases :D19:06
ppI was so early I'll probably get one19:22
pphopefully it'll be useful :D19:23
roborooh man... so everything was fine and then I rebooted and ended up with the phone booting to a black screen19:31
roboroI was intrigued to see whether it was actually booting so I dialled it from another phone and it rang... but the screen remains black... wifi is not working :(19:32
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* roboro has gone back to a factory reset...19:37
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fluxsoo, what's the best way to send a message (from ie. a PC) to the user of a jolla, without using SMS. xmpp?19:45
Jopexmpp, telegram?19:46
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coderusflux: email :D19:52
coderusicq also works well these days19:53
fluxwell, email is laggy for me19:55
fluxbut I suppose xmpp it is then19:55
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Jopewhat do you want to transfer really19:56
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fluxbasically, "The fireplace has dropped to 30% intensity" :)19:57
kimmolimqt19:57
kimmolimqtt19:57
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Jopenetcat? :-D19:58
fluxhmm, so mqtt works on Jolla?19:58
r0kk3rztwitter19:59
kimmolijep, work. #sailfishos-push19:59
kimmoliask tbr19:59
fluxkimmoli, is it at working level yet?19:59
r0kk3rzflux, you'd have to roll your own service for it19:59
kimmolii just got notification about you highlighting me here over mqtt20:00
fluxI guess xmpp would be easier in the sense it would need less customization on the Jolla end.. but mqtt has some other benefits?20:00
kimmolixmpp is also ok, i have made simple "ui" for homeautomation with it20:01
tbrflux: depends on use case20:01
fluxI guess mqtt would be definitely the way to go if I wanted those notifications to end up to some app on my phone?20:02
tbrmqtt is dead simple and power efficient20:02
tbrI have some sample code if you want20:02
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fluxsure, why not20:03
tbrhttps://github.com/dm8tbr/irssi-mqtt-sailfish - client side code. needs patched apache.paho20:03
tbrhttps://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python20:03
tbrthat's patched for IPHB wakeup20:04
fluxseem to be linked from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Middleware/PushNotifications20:04
tbryes20:04
tbrin late 2014 the idea was to build a generally available push messaging platform20:04
tbrthink like google20:04
tbrthe state is though that those are well working building blocks if you want to roll your own setup20:05
fluxhmm, I ssu ar tbr-mqtt.. but I cannot find any of the packages with pkcon search name/pkcon install?20:08
svuorelamqtt - that's the iot-protocol that ... ibm and others .. have been pushing ?20:09
fluxmaybe I need to run pkcon refresh first. 6% :)20:10
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tbrflux: hmm, that repository has other mqtt tools20:14
kimmolipkcon repo-set-data $nameofrepo refresh-now true20:14
tbrflux: that has a mosquitto server and client binaries, server probably patched for IPHB too20:15
tbrI was experimenting with running a full mosquitto server on the client (in bridge mode)20:15
fluxtbr, so I want to install some of those packages on my jolla.. ?20:17
tbrRPMs? not really20:17
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kimmolidid you already fix dependencies in rpm?20:19
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kimmoliiirc some python pkg was missing20:19
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tbrI haven't touched this in ages20:20
tbrI might work on it again20:20
kimmolisomeone did something with mqtt, r0kk3rz  ?20:22
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r0kk3rzkimmoli, yeah i didnt get very far with my experiments20:23
r0kk3rzthe library i had chosen segfaults on the jolla20:23
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kimmolii haxored simple testing ui, but nothing more.20:25
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kimmolimaybe if i had some io* here at home would help :P20:25
Tofeok, I have now a complete dump of my mmc partitions; if something goes wrong, I've got a plan B :)20:25
r0kk3rzyeah, i figured it shouldnt be super difficult to roll together a generified notifications service20:26
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seakinghey jolla :)23:05
seakingi was just watching your video "Jolla - A new beginning (Official)" and i was wondering on a awesome application for the device. A transparent background, one that shows the back camera view as wallpaper :)23:08
seakingi don't want nor do i have time to create the app, so please feel free to do.23:10
kimmolicoderus: i'm pretty sure that you can't make that ^ :P23:11
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r0kk3rzsounds like an amazing way to reduce battery life :D23:13
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ottuloa new kind of "killer"-app23:14
seakingit would be the best eye candy ever seen :D23:15
seakinganyway just a suggestion, have a nice day P:23:16
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