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HtheBwhat headphones with mic are working on the Jolla?13:34
HtheBiPhone, Android or Nokia type of headphones?13:34
kjetilhoAndroid is a misnomer.  Galaxy S had the old plug, Galaxy S2 has the Apple plug13:36
tbrthere are several standards. TRRS is one of them13:37
tbrIIRC this question was answered in one of the FAQs13:37
kjetilhoI would assume Jolla use the Apple plug as well, but I only use bluetooth...13:37
tbrhttps://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202345776-Headphones-Jolla-AHJ-13:38
HtheBI have some "apple compatible" headphones13:38
HtheBbut they give a "beeping noise"13:38
HtheBi mean, the microphone13:38
HtheBthe earpiece is just fine13:38
HtheBit's a very high pitch tone that is a bit annoying to the other party when talking on the phone13:39
HtheBtoo bad the buttons don't do anything :(13:39
HtheBis there a way to do some software hack to make the buttons work?13:39
HtheBsome patch?13:39
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HtheBdirkvl: read log13:40
dirkvlque?13:40
dirkvlwill do13:40
HtheBthnx, miss weet je t wel13:40
HtheBthe answer to the question :P13:40
kjetilhotbr: thanks!13:40
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dirkvlabout headphones?13:41
HtheByeah13:43
dirkvlno idea13:43
dirkvlgoogle it13:43
HtheBJolla supports wired headsets that use a 3.5mm connector, and that are of the AHJ (American Headset Jack) standard.13:43
HtheBSo.... how to determine this!? :D13:43
dirkvlt&e13:44
tbrand if you want a generic converter (works both ways) http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rubber-Earphone-Converter-Adapter-convert-OMTP-to-CTIA-or-CTIA-to-OMTP-3-5mm-B/32499617334.html13:45
Lieketheres this list http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2013/12/user-report-tool-jolla-and-external.html13:45
tbrit just swaps the two pins13:45
HtheBShurese215Audio plugPerfectly (everything ok)Plug in and compliments for quality!13:47
HtheBShure works... yes...13:47
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HtheBbut when you use the cable with the mic, it doesnt... haha13:47
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HtheBtbr: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/earphones/earphone-headphone-cables/m-mplus-cables13:49
HtheBSo one of this will work?13:49
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the_mgt[14:47] < HtheB> but when you use the cable with the mic, it doesnt... haha <- what d you mean?14:16
HtheBthe_mgt: the Shure headphones' cable can be replaced14:16
HtheByou can unplug the headphone part, and connect a different cable14:16
HtheBthe default cable is just a regular "headphone" cable, wich of course would work on every device14:17
HtheBhttp://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/earphones/earphone-headphone-cables/m-mplus-cables14:17
HtheBif you look at their website, they offer 2 types of cables that has a microphone on it14:17
HtheBone that is made for iPhones (with the volume buttons)14:18
HtheBthe other one works with most music-enabled phones with a 3.5 mm jack including Google Smartphone. (says on their website)14:18
the_mgtthat is a bit ambigous14:18
HtheBBut then I still don't know if that one is AHJ or not14:18
the_mgtyeah, the product description sucks14:19
the_mgtfrom what I recall, apple uses the standard that is compatible with jolla14:22
the_mgtmy old Nokia headsets did not work, the apple ones of my gf did work, but that was at a time when jolla did not support volume keys14:23
HtheBit still doesn't support it14:23
HtheBOr does it now? :/14:23
HtheBbecause it doesnt work over here14:24
the_mgtI can try in the evening, I am not at home and I switched to Zik headphones (bluetooth)14:24
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HtheBFrom the Jolla FAQ:14:25
HtheBAt the moment, Jolla supports the playback of music through the headset, and the use of the microphone during calls for example. You should be able to accept, decline or disconnect calls by using a switch in the headset. The other buttons, if available, do not unfortunately work.14:25
the_mgtthat sucks14:25
the_mgtbecause the phone does register the button presses, from what I remember14:25
HtheBso it could actually be added by some patch?14:26
the_mgtyou'd just need to fetch the event and act accordingly14:26
the_mgtI guess so. at first, the phone didn't register changing the volume via bt devices either. that was fixed, so I assumed somebody fixed it for all devices14:26
the_mgthttps://together.jolla.com/question/75875/control-audio-volume-from-external-sources-headphones-bluetooth-speakers-pebble-headsets-carkits/14:27
HtheBI can control the volume using my Pebble yes14:28
HtheBI'm wondering why this isn't just enabled then by default...14:28
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the_mgtin one of the answers you see the pressed buttons, you can use evtest14:30
HtheBevtest? let me try out14:30
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the_mgtand yes, pebble works fine here, too. and at least some other bt devices sync the volume. see my remark ybout AVRCP: The latest AVRCP versions (1.4 and 1.5) allow direct control of device volume as well.14:31
the_mgtmy Zik headphones are still not in sync with the phone14:32
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HtheBso... where can we find evtest?14:33
HtheBtried to install it, didn't find it somehow14:33
* HtheB is doing a pkcon refresh14:34
the_mgthm, no clue, it vanished from my phone14:37
HtheBseems like it's no where to be find :/14:38
HtheBhmm, let me instal mce-tools14:38
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HtheBok, got button presses!14:42
the_mgtis it in mce-tools?14:42
the_mgtit strikes me as odd, that nobody implemented it since the initial release of the phone...14:44
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HtheBI've used "evdev_trace -t". usefull command installed with mce-tools package. It's to see input events14:47
HtheBI've noticed that volume buttons aren't recognized at all14:47
HtheBonly the hang up/pick up button14:47
HtheBhmmm thats weird14:48
HtheBnow that I've called to myself14:49
HtheBI didn't notice any high pitch noise at all...14:49
HtheBseems like it only happens using the internal Record app?14:49
HtheBthis drives me crazy -_-14:49
the_mgtgotta got, sorry. maybe more ideas later14:53
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HtheBdoes anybody has any iphone earphone laying around?15:54
the_mgtme, at home, wait 2h15:57
tilli've got some16:00
tillbut sennheiser ones, not apple16:00
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HtheBthe_mgt: Thanks :D16:04
HtheBthe_mgt: Just need to know if its the headphones that are broken or just apple jack16:05
HtheBif you're at home, can you do the following for me? Plug in the apple earphones, open up the Jolla recorder app, and just record something and play it. Does it let you hear some high pitch noise? If yes, I need to get a different cable. If not, the cable that arrived to me is broken.16:06
the_mgtok16:09
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kjetilhoHtheB: you're not charging while you do your tests?16:19
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HtheBkjetilho: no17:12
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the_mgtHtheB: re18:33
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the_mgtHtheB: the apple headset works flawless, clear recording, no noise. the denon headset is the same18:52
the_mgtDenon AHC 260, or rather a little bit older18:53
the_mgtwhich are really good for the price of around 20€. you also get a nice carrying case18:54
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HtheBthe_mgt: Ok, seems like the problem is with the cable then19:09
HtheBoh one notice: which iphone earphones are they?19:10
HtheB(from which iphone generation did it came from)19:10
the_mgtthe same they delivered with the 5 series19:14
the_mgtwe have two identically looking sets, I guess I bought one for my gf for her iphone4, when the 5 series was not avaiable and 4s was the hot shit19:15
the_mgtthen when she got er 5, there was a set in the box19:16
the_mgthttps://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftaki.sourceforge.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2Fheadset-apple.jpg&f=1 these19:17
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HtheBok19:21
HtheBThanks for testing19:21
HtheBseems like the cable is shit then19:21
louis__Just skipped out on buying the Jolla VIP Box @ ebay. Don't know how to feel about it. On one side the leather case and three TOHs (pink, lime and aloe) are somewhat rare and I could resell the phone to get some money back. On the other side a new Sailfish phone it on the way and I wouldn't be able to get get the amount of money and would probably have some accessories for an old phone.19:23
HtheBlouis__: how much is it worth?19:23
HtheBI got 2 leather boxes19:23
HtheBvip boxes19:24
louis__it was sold for €175 excl. shipping.19:24
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HtheBlol wtf19:25
HtheBwas it WITH the phone? :P19:25
louis__Yes and 4 TOHs.19:25
HtheBah19:25
HtheBok then :D19:26
louis__HtheB, How would you estimate a TOH (pink, lime, aloe) being worth? :)19:27
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LouisdkHas anyone tried this cover for their Jolla: http://www.shapeways.com/product/JGP9GSP9X/the-other-side-for-jolla-phone-experimental?li=user-profile&optionId=36411422 ? :)19:52
AciidLouisdk: the other half is downloadable as zip you can print it at home20:00
Aciidjust a heads up20:00
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Aciidhttp://modrana.org/images/3dprint/jolla_toh_official_stl_abs.jpg20:01
HtheBLouisdk: worthless20:01
HtheBbecause black is the best20:01
Aciidone made from asbestos would be great20:01
Nicd-TOHKBD is the best <320:02
mornfallasbestos, seriously20:02
Aciidfireproof and you can end your life with it20:02
Aciidso two stones for one20:02
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LouisdkNicd-, really never got used to the TOHKBD though :P20:11
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LouisdkWas a big keyboard fan in the past, but a screen size >4" seems to big for a keyboard. Also a screen this size is easier to use cwith swkbd.20:15
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Aciidi was a big jolla fan, then I bought an iphone 6s plus20:19
Aciidalso jolla still holds my money ransom20:20
Nicd-my wife's iphone has gone insane20:20
Nicd-shows green, red, blue screen sometimes and shuts down periodically20:20
Aciidsounds like it's time to buy a new one20:26
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Nicd-time for warranty repair20:51
LouisdkNicd-, have you tried to set the date to 1. jan 1970 and see if that will fix it? :P (Don't!)20:51
Nicd-hehehehe20:53
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HtheBLouisdk: rofl21:15
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