#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2016-03-01

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FireFlyI've used google sheets a bit recently, it's pretty powerful too02:23
FireFlymoreso than I thought02:23
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Stskeepshttps://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-project-update/07:08
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locusfoh the butthurts already on comment #207:35
Yanielwell the roads are slippery in this weather07:39
Yanielnot surprising that people slip and fall07:39
* Stskeeps strongly would have preferred getting paid in ether or bitcoin, not paypal, but..07:40
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the_mgthm, my religion prohibts doing business with paypal, what now?07:55
Stskeepstalk about it in constructive ways?07:55
phlixi_or is it paypal pohibiting doing business with your religion?07:57
pp_TABLET!07:59
tbrmeh07:59
phlixi_conspiracy theory: require paypal will be the next excuse, because paypal will lock the money :D08:00
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pp_and LASTUCASE!08:00
* tbr is still quite undecided between refund and hw08:00
phlixi_if you are fast i am sure you make a god deal selling it on ebay08:02
phlixi_however, i am surprised that jolla has to build a toolchain for the refund and that there is nothing like that provided by igg08:03
pp_well, in general you lose your money, so why have one?-)08:04
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Stskeepsphlixi: by the time it's sent from IGG to the company it's probably out of their hands08:24
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phlixisure08:25
phlixibut (i dont know why) i expected igg to provide stuff08:25
phlixiin the end its KIND OF a payment provider08:25
Stskeepsmeh, IGG should be replaced with an ethereum smart contract.08:25
Stskeeps:P08:26
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tbrStskeeps: you are awfully fond of your newfound golden hammer, aren't you?08:38
Stskeepstbr: oh yes, i definately have a hardon for blockchain08:38
Stskeeps:P08:38
tbrdefinitely!08:39
tbrno *a* in it08:39
tbr(pet peeve)08:39
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pp_heh, it's been in a warehouse for a while, running 1.1.9.24 out of the box :D08:59
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Sail0rwhat09:08
Sail0r*Update* We have just recently shipped a batch of 77 devices to backers who earlier confirmed their order in the Jolla Shop.09:08
Sail0r77 :D09:08
pp_I feel like I own a unicorn09:11
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chem|stpp_: you do, iirc there will be no further batches than what has been produced09:27
chem|stin mint condition might be worth a fortune to collectors09:27
r0kk3rzchem|st: does anyone care about jolla devices? in the same way that they care about nokia devices?09:29
r0kk3rzim not sure09:29
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pp_the big enthusiasts probably got the taobao ones already :-)09:39
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Temppu-Temesame question as yesterday: how can i remove all android contacts from Jolla?10:42
Temppu-Temei managed to remove the contacts from sailfish, but alien-dalvik apps still see numbers and some name data10:43
Temppu-Temei thought i got it with some "android contact deleter" -app from play store, those let me choose all for deletion but nothing is actually removed10:43
Temppu-Temeso i'm looking for the place where they are stored in the file system..10:44
Temppu-Temei _could_ factory reset... but don't want to10:46
Temppu-Temeseeing that it takes a few hours to update and also i don't want to reconfigure play store etc10:46
the_mgtTemppu-Teme: there is a checkbox in the android app that lets you share/unshare between android and sfos. is that what you are looking for?10:48
the_mgtin the config dialog for alien dalvik, i mean10:48
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Temppu-Temenope, i want the app to be able to access the contacts (whatsapp, refuses to register without access).. i just want to empty the contact list10:49
Temppu-Temenow there are some numbers visible even though i deleted all contacts from sailfish10:50
the_mgtah, ok. then I have no clue10:50
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Temppu-Temei guess i'll have to do a factory reset :(11:06
the_mgttry removing dalvik first?11:11
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the_mgtor rather, just mv the directory and try with a fresh one. if the same failure happens, you know that it ain't fixable?11:12
Temppu-Temehmm.. i already reset but thx anyway :d11:19
PaulePanterHi. I think I asked two weeks ago, if there is any information when the new Sailfish OS version for the Jolla phone will be released. It has been a while.11:19
Temppu-Temealso, i would have "mv'd the directory" if i knew which one it is :)11:19
PaulePanterAny idea if the Jolla phone is therefore vulnerable to the glibc bug found two weeks ago?11:19
AccePaulePanter: it is11:20
PaulePanterAcce: Oh. Then I am really looking forward to the upgrade.11:23
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Temppu-Temei factory reset.. for 10 mins it just says "checking for update", is this normal?11:34
Temppu-Temei updated to 2.x a couple days ago and had no issue11:34
japa-fi_Temppu-Teme: I made updates yesterday to an Jolla which hadn't been used for a while. Had issues, which I finally traced to be because the phone's date and time were wayyy off.11:38
japa-fi_(once I got it going, I installed 3 or 4  OS updates I think)11:38
Temppu-Temeit found 1.0.2.5 now :)11:42
Temppu-Temei wonder how many updates i'm gonna have to do after reset to 2.x ....11:42
Temppu-Temedid 3 yesterday if IIRC and had 1.1.x installed11:42
Temppu-Teme-if11:42
the_mgtTemppu-Teme: /opt/alien is a good starting point, the info is on tjc11:43
Temppu-Temei checked that and gave up11:43
Temppu-Temei only tried to locate the contacts11:43
Temppu-Temethere were contacts directories, but under something like /opt/alien/qt5/qml/jolla or some such11:44
Temppu-Temeso i reset and hopefully won't ever need to care about it anymore ;)11:44
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the_mgthttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/popslate-2-smart-second-screen-for-iphone this could have been a nice toh12:21
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TMavicaAnyone planned to travel to indian buy aqua phone?12:35
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r0kk3rzi wonder if i can get one shipped to malaysia...12:38
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Hartzithe_mgt: looks nice. I soppose they're all ex-nokians :P14:02
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r0kk3rzyotaphone for iphone14:17
r0kk3rzi think kimmoli investigated an e-ink toh, or maybe it was dirkvl14:17
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SebbanIf I (or Google Translate) understand correctly it looks like they "repaired" my new/unused bootlooping Jolla phone two hours after it arrived at their repair station. Now I just have to get it sent back to me again :)14:26
SebbanIt says "Huoltotiedot: Software updated." so maybe they just had to reflash it.14:26
SebbanHopefully they also try to boot it before they send it back ;)14:28
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kimmolir0kk3rz: yeah. i have some suitable displays, but rejected the project. Driving them is pita.14:42
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The_WraithHi everyone.15:03
The_WraithI have a specific problem. I want to run a script from /etc/rc.local. And it runs but then is killed the & at the end doesnt matter since it's still a child process for rc.local. (correct me if im wrong)15:04
The_WraithOn a typical linux installation there's a command: at ..which can be used to overcome that.15:05
The_WraithI dont have it on my jolla though, what do?15:05
r0kk3rzThe_Wraith: why arent you using systemd to do that?15:06
The_WraithI thought i am, what else could be starting /etc/rc.local ?15:06
The_WraithOh, you think I should write a service? I never done that before, it seemed easier to just launch from rc.local.15:08
r0kk3rzThe_Wraith: write a systemd unit file for your script15:08
The_WraithOkay.. i'll be googling for a howto on that now. :D15:09
r0kk3rzhttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd15:09
r0kk3rzthe WantedBy directive needs to be different for sfos though15:10
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the_mgtrc.local is for stuff you fire up once, like setting some environment variable, iirc. The_Wraith15:11
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: id still use a oneshot systemd unit instead...15:11
the_mgtand "at" is more of a cron type of thing. running a script has always done by ... well init scripts15:12
the_mgtr0kk3rz: yes, totally. although I haven't yet fully welcomed our new systemd overlords15:12
r0kk3rzwhether you like it or not, trying to subvert or work around systemd on a system seems pointless imo15:13
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r0kk3rzif you really dont like it, dont run systemd!15:13
the_mgtagreed15:13
r0kk3rznot that you get a choice on sfos15:13
the_mgtthat is why I run openrc on my servers15:13
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ruskiejolla tablet is nice.... wish it would have been more than just this few...17:08
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sledgeshttps://twitter.com/bolek1337/status/70472513282520268818:32
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the_mgtsledges: OTA? as in official updates over the air?19:07
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nh1402the_mgt: "official"19:17
nh1402not through settings19:17
nh1402via a series of commands in the terminal19:18
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sledgesthe_mgt: community OTA ;) O stands for over, not official, for now:) but better than nothing!19:31
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r0kk3rzmuch better than having to rebuild+reflash19:45
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sledges+backup+restore20:10
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phlixiofficial the air?20:12
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sledgescould sfos boot on F2FS ?20:20
dr_gogeta86why not20:22
dr_gogeta86did you use some strange context on ext or btrfs ?20:22
sledgesi'm thinking on other devices20:24
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the_mgtsledges: what is so magical about OTA then? are the sailfish/mer repos protected so that only genuine hardware can unlock them?21:30
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sledgesthe_mgt: simply the infra to merge mer+jolla repos for doing version --dup on non-jolla products wasn't ready21:33
sledgesalso hw adaptation of ported device itself needs to be able to handle OTAs, things like kernel flashing during updates21:34
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the_mgtah21:35
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Milo-Hm, I can't modify a saved wlan connection?21:40
Milo-only option I'm getting is "forget network"21:40
the_mgtvia cli in /var/lib/b/connman21:40
the_mgtwihtout b21:41
Milo-oh, ew21:42
Milo-guess I'll check the settings from n9 then21:43
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