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roboroaloha16:00
roboroI'm having trouble connecting to my mobile network16:00
roboromy jolla started out by dropping connection frequently... now it doesn't find it at all16:01
roboroI tried my sim in an android phone and all good16:02
roborohave tried several reboots etc16:02
roborohere is output from ofono16:03
roborohttp://pastebin.com/mHZYy8FF16:03
roboroI'm wondering whether my phone is finally packing up16:03
roboroor whether this is some software issue16:03
roboroif its packing up... I'm pretty bleak as it will probably mean that I have to leave the Jolla behind... as I will need to get a new phone...16:05
roboroI use a bit of alien_dalvik stuff... so unless I get another Jolla (not keen... since it would be an investment in pretty old hardware) I would also have to leave behind sailfish os :(16:06
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r0kk3rzonly other real option is the intex phone16:07
r0kk3rzor take a €500 gamble with the fairphone216:08
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SmarI’d take fairphone2, but first want them to actually release something...16:09
roboroneither are actually available yet as far as I can tell16:09
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r0kk3rzfp2 hardware is16:09
roboroany ideas on how I can debug my current issue further and determine whether I have a hardware issue?16:10
r0kk3rzbut the gamble is with sfos offering16:10
SmarI want them first release a phone I can buy containing sailfish... :)16:10
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roboroyeah... that's what I was referring to16:10
r0kk3rzSmar: not sure they will ever do that.16:10
Smarwhy they wouldn’t?16:10
roborommmm and will you get alien_dalvik?16:10
r0kk3rzstock keeping mostly16:10
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mal-I really should release the first version of sailfish for fp2, I just need to rebuild the image with some tiny modifications16:11
r0kk3rzmal-: yes you should, many people are waiting on you :)16:11
mal-:)16:12
r0kk3rzroboro: signal issues are a hard one really...16:12
r0kk3rzroboro: are you absolutely certain its not your network16:13
r0kk3rzmine had terrible signal performance for a couple of weeks, and then went fine again16:13
roboropretty certain... I put the sim into a really old android phone and it worked fine16:13
roboroalso... I have not had signal in a variety of locations16:14
roboroalso I checked if there were any reported issues with local masts and none16:14
r0kk3rzroboro: same kinda symptoms to me, remember the signal levels between phones will not be identical anyway16:14
r0kk3rzthe jphone never had amazing signal reception (at least mine doesnt)16:14
roboroyeah, but I am not even getting a signal in my jolla... searching for networks gives 'Oops no networks found'16:15
roboroI can't even attempt to make calls etc16:15
r0kk3rzyeah mine was doing that, and it went away after a week, two weeks maybe16:15
r0kk3rzymmv of course16:16
roborommmm so just wait without a functional phone for 2-4 weeks and then finally give in and get a new phone... doesn't sound good to me16:16
r0kk3rzi had an old android that got me through the gap16:21
phlixi_oand there are tons of those around 10 dollar at ebay16:22
r0kk3rzyou can always contact care about it, but all the said to me was 'send it in'16:22
phlixi_oand if you send it in, the gap might be even bigger16:22
r0kk3rzwhich means you'll be without a phone for 2-4 weeks anyway16:22
roborommmm sure... but that means constantly swapping out sims etc to check whether signal has decided to start working magically16:23
roboroI'm inclined to try to work out what the problem actually is16:23
r0kk3rzyes its a pain16:23
r0kk3rzroboro: my point is you do not have perfect information, so you may not be able to find out what the actual problem is16:24
r0kk3rzdo what you like, but the answer may illude you no matter how much effort you put in16:24
roboroyeah... I was hoping to find out how I might be able to get more information to make a judgement call16:25
roborosorry... don't mean to be coming off short... I appreciate the suggestions... just frustrated that I'm finally in a situation where I may have to ditch sailfish16:26
r0kk3rzand understandably so16:26
roboroandroid and iOS are not really options16:27
r0kk3rzyou're faced with a shit choice, where no options are particularly appealing16:27
roboroanyone had a go with ubuntu touch?16:27
r0kk3rzroboro: yes, but like sailfish it moves fast, so you need to have tried it yesterday16:27
r0kk3rzand it also means that what it does now, is not what it will do 1 year from now16:28
roboroyeah... that's understandable16:29
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r0kk3rzroboro: whether you're willing to forgive its current state and do the waiting game again with another operating system though...16:33
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roborohard call16:35
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r0kk3rzroboro: also no dalvik on ubuntu touch remember16:38
roborommmm good point16:39
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phlixi_oanother point to maybe worth thinking about is, yes, if you now order a "new" jolla, its old hardware...17:32
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phlixi_o...but, does it really matter?17:32
phlixi_o(@roboro)17:32
phlixi_osorry, that i am not able to help with your actual problem17:32
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pp_it might be that the turing phone isn't vapourware, too \:D/17:43
phlixi_oi always have somthing to complan...17:44
phlixi_o...the turin phone is just ugly17:45
phlixi_oit tries to look exclusive, and horribly fails17:45
phlixi_obesides that, and that i still thinks its kind of vapory... it might be actually pretty cool17:46
r0kk3rzpp_: but if you need a new phone *now* its hard to hang out for a maybe-not-entirely-vapourware phone17:46
phlixi_owell, if you have the spare money for a spare phone, not much is needed: http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&Mobilfunkbetreiber=Ohne%2520Simlock&_dcat=9355&LH_ItemCondition=3000&_nkw=galaxy+nexus&_sop=1517:50
speactranexus 4 or nexus 5 works really good with sailfish as well17:51
phlixi_onexus 4 seems to be the same price range17:54
phlixi_onexus 5 10-15 more17:54
nh1402oneplus x has similar pricing doesn't it?17:56
phlixi_oprobably, but i never recomend devices i havent used17:56
speactrano jolla store on oneplus x17:57
phlixi_oon the first look i have the impression those have MUCH higher prices17:58
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phlixi_otwo for above 100, all other above 20017:59
phlixi_othe nexus ones above where 20-5018:00
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phlixi_o...and the two below 200 have broken screens18:00
phlixi_othus, nh1402, no totally different prices18:00
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nh1402ah right18:01
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phlixi_obut, whatever.. enough for today... gn8 :-)18:01
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