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Stskeepscan somebody with a jolla1 that's not on early release, cat /etc/ofono/ril_subscription.conf for me?09:42
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henkI’m not on early release AFAIK, but I have no idea whether my phone is a jolla1. How can I find out?09:43
Yanielthere is only a jolla109:44
Yanieland a jolla tablet09:44
arnejStskeeps: Lots of comments and then:https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/0d21f0699c55f5ff7575ae15f96336dc/raw/257de22e68118e31fa64924599739767e2d7b381/ril_subscription.conf09:45
Stskeepshenk: probably that one09:45
henkStskeeps: http://pastie.org/1078851909:45
henk"allow developer updates" (mine is in german) in "developer mode" being unticked means "not on early release", right? if so, I’m certain I’m not on early release.09:46
Stskeepsthanks, that helped me09:46
Yanielhenk: no that is for internal stuff09:46
Yanielearly access has to be enabled via account.jolla.com09:46
Yanielso you probably don't have it on :)09:47
henkYaniel: ah ok, thanks. Yes, just checked, it’s not on.09:47
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henkI’m still trying to figure out which packages are installed from which repository. I can see the enabled repositories using 'ssu lr'. But the only way to correlate installed packages with a repository I can find seems to be to crawl the complete contents of every openrepo-repo and grep the list of installed packages for each package name found. This seems highly inefficient. Any other ideas?10:30
the_mgtport gentoos "eix" to sailfish and profit?10:31
tadzikjoke's on you you can't profit on salifish /s10:33
henkthe_mgt: That seems counterproductive. I’m trying to uninstall everything that is not the base system or installed from the store. Which should only be some apps from warehouse/openrepos … so porting some other piece of software is exactly what I’d like to avoid.10:34
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tbrif you had openrepos on, then I'd recommend a factory reset. only way to be sure.10:36
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henktbr: hm, I don’t actually need it to be 100% clean or something like that. Just _want_ to get rid of them. As long as everything is still working fine, I’m going to avoid the reset. Too much to set up again …10:38
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tbrsure, it's just that while I trust the jolla store a /bit/, I wouldn't trust OR at all. Don't have QA and some of the packages that I had to look at were downright scary from a security perspective.10:42
the_mgthenk: warehouse app should give you a list of your repos, if you disable them, all should be ok10:43
tbrthat won't uninstall the apps, will it?10:43
the_mgtif you disable a repo under "my profile" it should remove the apps from the repo as well10:44
the_mgti did that once in order to regain space10:45
SfietKonstantinWno it doesn't ;)10:45
the_mgthm, then i deleted the apps manually and hoped everything else coming with them would be deleted too10:46
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Yanielconfigs and other stuff in /home/nemo will stay10:47
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tbrnow I received an "invitation to complete your IGG contribution"12:39
Stskeepsdid you click refund button or not, ooi?12:39
tbrI'm still considering to sell the device off to someone willing to pay for it.12:40
Stskeepsshould be entirely possible12:40
tbrbasically fill in their delivery address and when I get €€€, press go12:40
tbryes12:40
tbrif I wouldn't be _very_ hard pressed for money, I would press refund and let the next one in queue have it. But yeah, this one time I'm going to be an a**hole.12:41
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Stskeepsmeanwhile, turing phone w/ sailfish caught on video: http://www.digitoday.fi/mobiili/2016/04/07/video-puhelinvalmistus-alkaa-jalleen-vanhalla-nokian-tehtaalla---tassa-on-turing-phone/20163772/66?rss=612:42
Stskeepstbr: would probably have done same thing12:43
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NwSAny news of a new phone anytime soon?12:45
the_mgtyes, soon12:47
* Stskeeps really wouldn't mind the turing with it's 3gb ram personally12:48
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Milo-We are happy to let you know that we are almost ready to ship your Jolla Tablet!"12:51
the_mgtStskeeps: that and its screen size. plus being waterproof12:51
Milo-I wonder if that's a scam :P12:51
henktbr: in how far are you going to be an asshole? I don’t think I follow …12:52
Stskeepshenk: in some circles it's seen as predatory to ebay a crowdfunded device as soon as you get it, for those that didn't, but to be honest, in the jolla situation it's more like collecting rates on how long company has had ones money :P12:53
tbrhenk: I don't want the device, but instead of pressing "refund me" and the device reserved for me going to the "next in queue". I'm going to sell it, hopefully for a decent profit.12:53
Stskeeps(or whatever that name is)12:53
tbrITYM interest12:54
r0kk3rzim not sure why anyone would want to do that... get device or half a refund, no brainer really12:54
RaYmAntbr: tbh, the page says refundable amount 0$, so even though I actually pressed refund, it seems like I asked for a refund of 0$ :P12:54
henkaaah, thanks guys12:54
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tbrRaYmAn: if you are in the queue for a device, you can only ask for a refund once you get the mail I got today12:54
Stskeepsr0kk3rz: or get full refund + amount on top by selling device12:54
r0kk3rzStskeeps: precisely12:55
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RaYmAntbr: ah. like that. I guess I'm getting that email..at some point :P12:55
henkapropos refund: I seriously hope no more mails regarding that will go missing … The refund has nothing to do with IGG anymore, does it? It’s just jolla and paypal?12:55
tbryeah, I had once again dialed back my expectations to "maybe before they go bancrupt (again) I will get a device or a refund". So today's mail was a nice surprise.12:56
tbrhenk: except for those people who are in queue to possibly get a device12:56
henkShould I know by now whether I will get a tablet?12:57
RaYmAnhenk: did your refund page say "Pending Shipment"?12:59
RaYmAntbr: possibly? I thought they said everyone with Pending shipment would get one? or is there another queue for people who wants it if someone else passes?12:59
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henkRaYmAn: no13:00
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tbrRaYmAn: with jolla _nothing_ is for certain, as everyone should have learned by now.13:02
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RaYmAnI suppose13:02
RaYmAnThey've been a lot better at communicating in the last blog post at least - actually answering questions in comments and such ;)13:05
tbrI once peeked at the comments on an earlier post and confirmed that it doesn't make sense reading those.13:06
jaywalkhey, I got a jolla tablet on the way! "10-20 days" to deliver13:08
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Milo-jaywalk same here13:25
Milo-it took 2-3 months for my ex-co-worker to receive his after he paid taxes :po13:26
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Stskeepsshoooould be faster this time13:27
jaywalkMilo-: oh! well I'm just happy it should actually happen. if it's before summer all the better!13:29
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Milo-At least I can put a rare device into my shelf.13:31
Milo-or a cabin13:31
SQUelcherOn top of the pile of rare devices? ;P13:33
Milo-well, I have some dust that is very rare.13:33
pketoyes, the shipping should happen considerably faster this time13:34
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Milo-Are there any upcoming software updates to any of our devices?13:36
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Milo-Does jolla have any devs anymore? :p13:36
SfietKonstantinWMilo-: for sure they have13:37
SQUelcherI've bought this phone in the early 2000s on ebay: http://www.wasser.de/telefon-alt/forum/forum-bilder/100000000007585-12-1354368013-g.jpg - it's actually a gsm900 "mobile" phone, with a sticker "GSM900 engineering sample" on it.. IMEI 12345678901234513:38
the_mgtnice13:39
Milo-nice indeed13:39
SfietKonstantinW:O13:39
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frieseYour order for the Indiegogo contribution has now been finalised. Your order # is: 1400000566. <-- well, seems i'm in a rare club there...15:40
wysiwtflemme guess, youre nr 566 and the rest is just some "id" ;P15:43
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frieseyups15:45
kjetilhodouble-0 566, with license to swipe15:46
Tegulooked like a unix timestamp to me15:47
friesehumm, that would have been may 2014...15:47
Tegubut when did the campaign begin?15:47
TeguI think it was only later15:48
friesedont think so. probably it's #566, so i'm one of the last ones to get a tablet15:48
frieseyeah, wasnt that in november?15:48
Tegumaybe after slush 2014 or something15:48
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friesebut indeed, 2014... damn thats a long time to wait for an tablet :)15:48
frieseanyways, gotta run, see you later...15:49
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clau_hi, can anyone suggest a way of exporting contacts from Jolla phone to an iPhone?19:16
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nh1402uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh19:17
Stskeepsclau_: afaik export to vcard should be possible19:18
clau_via UI?19:23
clau_in People app settings I can only see import options19:23
coderusdo a backup, it will create vcf19:28
clau_ok, will check. thanks :)19:31
phliximaybe bluetooth?19:40
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clau_phlixi, couldn't get the iphone to see the jolla. I'm going to try again when I have more time, as it would be the simplest way.20:08
phlixiwhy am i not surprised, that the iphone does not play well with others?20:14
phlixi:-)20:14
phlixiit might not work, it was just an idea (because thats how you get contacts the easiest ON TO the jolla, by leeching them via bluetooth from another phone)20:15
phlixijust checked, i can see my jolla from an iphone, and i remember i already sent a contact from the jolla to the iphone20:16
phlixihowever, never tried bulk20:16
phlixiin fact thats how i often share wpa keys, by sending them as a contact via bluetooth^^20:17
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clau_phlixi, :D20:47
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