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chem|stfor all who like, I'd like to call a storm https://twitter.com/dostortugas/status/73324568852444364811:00
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Venemo_joh my11:07
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r0kk3rzchem|st: is this even possible for them to do?11:16
ggabrielanything is possible11:17
ggabrielif you apply an agile methodology :P11:17
chem|str0kk3rz: nokia did neither sell Maemo codebase nor anything attached, just the brand has been transfered to Maemo Community e.V.11:20
pp_we want GTK and .deb back!11:22
Jopeharmattan without aegis! ;-)11:22
r0kk3rzchem|st: "didnt sell" isnt the same as "still has", as well as things like the people to continue developing + modernising11:23
Hellepp_: I mostly want a balanced keyboard back11:24
Hellepp_: my N900 I used a ton for just typing out stuff11:24
Hellethe keyboard TOH is nice, but it is unbalanced as hell11:25
Helleand with my tiny hands, that really limits how much I can use it11:25
ballockand xorg! :p11:26
ggabrielyou can still buy an n900 in amazon btw11:27
Helleballock: which I actually used sometimes amazingly11:28
Helleggabriel: kind of tempted to buy a used one, as a mobile terminal, more so then a phone11:28
Hellemy old one needs a lot of work to be usable again11:28
ggabrielbut used one will have all the tx/rx components used out11:29
ggabrielwell, the modem tends to break11:29
ggabrielwlan related functions tend to last a lot longer11:29
ggabrielhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronics-Nokia-N900-Mobile-Computer-Software/dp/B002QEBX5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463657393&sr=8-1&keywords=nokia+n90011:30
ggabrielthe price never ceases to amaze me11:30
r0kk3rzimo it would be more likely for them to release sailfish phone than maemo/meego phone11:30
ggabrielnever goes down... like good old nintendo games11:30
chem|stJope: +111:30
tadzikoh wow11:31
HelleI wish I did what I was originally planning for a Keyboard TOH design and move the battery into the keyboard and use robust sliders, I mean it would have added design difficulty11:31
tadziklooking at the screenshots on amazon almost makes me want to buy another one of these11:31
Hellebut right now, I rarely use it....11:32
ggabrieltadzik: the first line of the description <311:32
chem|str0kk3rz: lots of M5 stuff is reverseengineered by maemo devs foss stuff got updated or is even still getting updated11:32
tadzikggabriel: yeah :D11:33
ballockother topic: some android devs claim my Jolla/Alien Dalvik improperly advertises that it answers to market:// links, while I don't have Google Play, just F-Droid.11:33
chem|stHelle: you can get those flex-ribbons quiet cheap11:33
Hellechem|st: the main issue is the sliders11:34
Hellechem|st: and my mechanical engineering skills are on the weak side11:34
Hellekind of waiting for a newer phone to do it to now11:34
Helleeither Jolla, or something I can put SailfishOS on atleast11:34
chem|stHelle: I think you can get the N900 mechanics as spares still, that would be screw in and done11:35
Hellechem|st: oh, you mean that, no, my N900's (plural) have USB connector issues like most11:35
chem|stHelle: that is easy to fix11:35
r0kk3rzunfortunately another phone with TOH or TOH like feature seems unlikely11:35
chem|stthe µUSB in n900 can be soldered by hand11:35
Hellechem|st: well, not for me :(11:35
r0kk3rzfp2 being the only exception11:35
chem|stHelle: send them to me and I will fix em up when I got time11:36
Heller0kk3rz: yeah, custom case for a FP2 or something11:36
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Hellechem|st: Germany right ? that is actually something I need to consider then11:36
chem|stI have one of the rare n900 where the port never broke11:36
chem|stHelle: yes11:36
r0kk3rzHelle: if size is your concern then fp2 probably isnt the best, its a big brick11:36
chem|stHelle: where are you at?11:36
Hellechem|st: Die Niederlande11:37
Heller0kk3rz: heck, my basic thought was to just take any random phone that runs SailfishOS community port and just completely replace the case11:37
Heller0kk3rz: the N900 was fine size-wise, I can deal with a brick, it lives in my purse anyway11:37
chem|stHelle: maybe someone closer to you can help, check with dirkvl for example11:37
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dirkvlque?11:38
chem|stHelle: you think of doing your own case but you are unable to solder your µUSBs?11:38
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chem|stdirkvl: broken µUSB on n900s for a beer in view11:39
r0kk3rzHelle: fp2 is probably best if you want to replace the whole case, other things tend to be glued together these days11:39
chem|st*fixing11:39
Hellechem|st: more, for some reason I fail at the micro-USB on N900s, I've replaced bunches of them on other stuff11:39
Hellechem|st: idk, might be bad luck or something11:39
chem|stHelle: did you destroy the solderpads?11:39
Hellechem|st: on one and then I stopped trying11:39
Hellechem|st: still have two other broken ones11:40
chem|stok, maybe the second can be repaired then11:40
Helle(yeah, I am one of those people)11:40
chem|sta two others...11:40
chem|stwell I got a bunch of hardware just at my desk... but not so many n900s :)11:40
chem|stbut my n900 is alive and now got a simcard to be reused!11:41
chem|stand hell do I miss that keyboard in daily usage11:42
Hellequite11:43
tadzikreminds me to write that t9 keyboard for jolla, heh11:44
tadzikbut yeah, that n900 keyboard was kickass11:44
chem|st*is11:45
Helletadzik: well, not just the keyboard, the problem the TOH keyboard has, is that it is unbalanced11:45
chem|sttadzik: and yes, t9 kbd and stuff would at least cover the one-hand cornercase11:45
Helleso you need big hands (which I lack) to keep it steady, or else the lever effect will make it a pain11:45
tadzikchem|st: without the proper hardware qwerty keyboard, one-hand is not my cornercase :)11:46
chem|stHelle: put some weight on?11:46
tadzikHelle: ah, I see. I never got to use the tohmbd11:46
chem|sttadzik: true11:46
tadzikhnng11:46
tadzikkdbdnd11:46
chem|st"&§$?11:46
tadziktyinp is hardo tay11:46
tadzikgod dmanit11:46
ggabrieltadzik: do you need a tohkbd? :P11:47
tadzikI clearly need a stronger tea11:47
tadzik(plot twist: I'm actually at my laptop)11:47
tadzikyou'd know that I'm typing on a jolla if.every.space.was.a.dot.instead11:47
Stskeepshehe11:47
Stskeeps:P11:47
Helletadzik: yes....11:47
tadzikthis is such a nice trademark11:48
tadzik"Sent.from.my.Jolla"11:48
r0kk3rztadzik: yep i do that too11:48
ggabrielhappens sometimes, hence tohkbd11:48
ggabrielapple fixed that by hiding it under the symbols key11:48
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tadzikhehe, it's working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3nIL03NItU18:36
tadziknow "just" to write a maliit plugin :P18:36
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kimmoliheh18:49
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r0kk3rztadzik: :D18:59
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