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sobukusDid anyone successfully record videos over 4 GiB in size with the Jolla Phone? I copied one with 5.8 GiB size from the phone and it's corrupt around 70 % of the runtime …06:25
sobukusThis is a bit frustrating, as I also cannot influcence quality settings to ensure that I can record an hour of video.06:25
Bysmyyrdid you recorded it directly to memorycard?06:27
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sobukusBysmyyr: No, I only found hacks people had to employ to be able to do that.06:58
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sobukusBysmyyr: I didn't tinker yet with formatting the sd card with something else than fat32, which of course also would have problems with long videos.06:59
pp_hmn, doesn't fat32 have a 4G maximum file size06:59
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sobukusI am now wondering if this is a general issue or only my test recording got corrupted during transfer. But the error is too close to the omnious 4 GiB …06:59
sobukuspp_: Yes, that's because I wouldn't be surprised if this failed on the sd card.07:00
sobukusBut this is internal phone memory (btrfs?).07:00
sobukusMeh, and I cannot tell the camera to just record 720p to safe space.07:01
sobukussave space07:01
Bysmyyrtry again if it happens every time07:01
sobukusI feared that. But since there is something important to record very soon, I may not have time for trial runs …07:02
sobukusSucks that my proper camera is not allowe to record more than 25 minutes straight because of customs rules.07:02
Armadillomaybe you have a btrfs issue because running out of disk space if you record such a large video?07:02
sobukusThere was still 1.1 GiB free.07:03
Armadillowell, that's no guarantee07:03
sobukusHuh?07:03
ArmadilloI had 3GB left and already had major issues07:03
Armadillobtrfs-calander allocation could give you further information07:04
Armadilloadmn07:04
Armadillobtrfs-balancer allocation07:04
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Armadillothis is the correct one, sorry07:04
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sobukusTotal:     14763950080 bytes07:08
sobukusUsed:      14763950080 bytes07:08
sobukusAllocated: 100 %07:08
sobukusHm.07:08
sobukusIs that good?07:08
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sobukusDoes this just mean that all space is allocated to partitions/file systems/volumes?07:08
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sobukusArmadillo: Seems like I got random data from the disk/flash at the end. The last bytes:07:11
sobukus16ecf7eb8  2f 72 64 66 3a 52 44 46  3e 0a 3c 2f 78 3a 78 6d  |/rdf:RDF>.</x:xm|07:11
sobukus16ecf7ec8  70 6d 65 74 61 3e 0a 3c  3f 78 70 61 63 6b 65 74  |pmeta>.<?xpacket|07:12
sobukus16ecf7ed8  20 65 6e 64 3d 22 72 22  3f 3e                    | end="r"?>|07:12
Armadillothis is not good07:12
sobukusThat ain't video.07:12
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Armadillotry btrfs-balancer balance07:12
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sobukusHm, I tried that and my phone disconnected (USB network connection).07:12
sobukusIt turned off.07:13
Armadillowhoops^^07:13
Armadilloalthough I had major issues that never happened to mine :D07:14
sobukusWhat would a sane output of the balancer allocation be?07:14
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sobukusArmadillo: OK, not that I blame you … but got any tips on un-bricking my Jolla phone now?07:16
* sobukus tries to start up a second time07:17
Armadillosomething like that: http://pastebin.com/3vCb06Xa07:17
ArmadilloOo07:17
sobukusHm, I only have black screen and white status LED07:18
Armadillomaybe remove the battery for some seconds07:18
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Armadilloand disconnect usb07:18
sobukusThing is, it tries to boot. I see the jolla logo screen. Then black.07:18
sobukusUSB is disconnected:-/07:19
Armadillo:(07:19
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Armadillothat's really strange as the allocation only is a lookup command07:19
sobukusWell, the balance command is not.07:20
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sobukusHm, I got a backup from a month ago. A bunch of ini and sql files. I hope I can recover using them.07:22
* sobukus trying btrfs recovery07:24
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Armadillohm07:26
Armadillothe btrfs thing really is a mess :/07:27
sobukusI don't see any reaction after pressing '5' for btrfs recovery … wondering if it's stuck right there?07:29
sobukusTrying to moint /dev/mmcblk0p28 hangs.07:33
sobukusmount07:33
Armadillonot good07:33
sobukusAnd why the heck are there 28 partitions?07:33
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Armadillohttps://together.jolla.com/question/73206/solved-bricked-11127-unable-to-mount-mmcblk0p28-for-backup/07:35
Armadillomaybe this helps07:35
sobukusYeah, I was aiming for btrfs check now.07:37
sobukuscache and super generation don't match, space cache will be invalidated07:38
sobukusCounts for qgroup id: 264 are different07:38
sobukusCheck worked, I can mount now. But it still claims 12.2 GiB used, but I deleted the video and should have > 6 GiB free.07:39
* sobukus notes that it sucks that user data craps on the system partition.07:39
Armadillo:)07:41
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sobukusHm, selecting reboot has it hanging with red LED. Meh.07:44
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sobukusmv: can't rename '/mnt/rec-20160527_075542_@': Read-only file system07:56
sobukus[WARNING] Could not restore rootfs subvolume!07:56
sobukusmv: can't rename '/mnt/rec-20160527_075542_@home': Read-only file system07:56
sobukus[WARNING] Could not restore home subvolume!07:56
sobukusI sense that this is not good.07:56
ArmadilloI think you dhould contact Jolla support :/08:01
sobukus[   63.861315] WARNING: at fs/btrfs/super.c:221 __btrfs_abort_transaction+0x38/0x98()08:04
sobukus[   63.861834] BTRFS error (device mmcblk0p28) in find_free_extent:5803: error 2808:04
sobukus[   63.874011] kernel BUG at fs/btrfs/relocation.c:2278!08:05
sobukusThis is sweet.08:05
sobukusNot sure if this points to hardware issues, but the filesystem is borked.08:05
tbrback up your data if you haven't yet, procure a copy of a clean btrfs, inject through recovery08:08
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sobukustbr: Those are some interesting tasks … I guess I have a project for the weekend:-(08:11
tbrthere are people™ in here who have such copies and could provide them to you AFAIU08:12
sobukustbr: I'll make sure to ask when I'm back with the time … and also ask about how I should shove the data onto the device.08:12
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sobukustbr: About those people with system images … any chance I can get one from an official (perhaps even trusted) source? I found a download link, but it's a random site on the webs and I don't feel like putting that onto my personal phone …10:50
pp_redundant array of users can sha1sum their recovery partition (which should be identical?)10:52
tbrsobukus: I don't have one, but someone here might.10:52
tbrnote that the factory reset partition will depend on the base version of the firmware it contains, obviously. So there probably are several10:53
sobukusSo the proper way to deal with this would be to send the phone to Jolla for repair?10:54
pp_yup10:54
sobukusWould I have to pay for that, given that warranty period might be over?10:54
pp_... and wait10:55
sobukusI wonder if the recovery snapshot volume (or whatever, not that accustomed to btrfs) might be salvage from my device.10:55
sobukusI'd then have to recreate a fresh btrfs and extract into this.10:56
sobukusWould that possibly work?10:56
sobukus… if only the "normal" filesystem data written since last recovery/update is broken …10:57
pp_hmn, if you get a shell and your recovery volume is fine, you should be able to use that?11:00
pp_mmcblk0p2811:00
M4rtinKI think it would be good idea to ask some questions: does "Jolla C use btrfs" ? and "Will flashable images be available?"11:00
pp_mine seems to be 1.0.0.5 (most are), the recovery image mostly found on the internet is 1.0.8.1911:01
M4rtinKany takers or should I do that (on Together) ?11:01
TMavicaCan the ambience installed in Jolla 1, use in Jolla C?11:01
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cvpTMavica: why not, on ported sfos phone works too11:03
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* sobukus wonders what Jolla C is11:05
sobukuspp_: You mean restore the recovery volume directly? I guess that is what the recovery routine tries … it fails in preparation, though, trying to delete things.11:06
sobukusAs the fs drops into read-only mode because of errors, the normal recovery fails.11:06
sobukusSo I wonder that I might be able to _extract_ the recovery in a tar file.11:06
SkoozThe intex aqua fish released in Europe in a batch of 1000 as a community developer phone.11:06
Skoozsold out yesterday within a few hours.11:07
Skooz(the Jolla C that is)11:08
sobukusHm, doesn't look like a necessary upgrade hardware-wise. I hope support for the old phone is not ending so quickly.11:08
TMavicacvp: I mean the wallpaper can fit the 5' display11:09
TMavicaLower resolution ?11:09
phlixi_osobukus you will not find an "official image" from an "trusted" or "official" server. i think common understanding why there is no official download is license of some blobs, which seem to not allow jolla to offer an image for download11:10
cvpTMavica: i know what you mean. i use Oneplus X with SFOS and dont think that the porter change the resolution from the wallpapers.11:10
cvpit haves 5"11:10
phlixi_oeither send it to jolla for "repair", then they will flash it, or download one of the "shady" images (well, check the checksums^)11:11
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sobukusphlixi_o: There are non-shady checksums someplace?11:12
cvpTMavica: if you like, i can install the Black Ambient from my jolla to the Oneplusx and we will se what hapen. The OPX has FullHD Display11:12
cvpmore than the Jolla C Display :)11:12
phlixi_osobukus: let m eknow once you found them :)11:12
sobukusAh, good.11:12
TMavica👍11:12
Skoozpictures just get scaled. I'm using an ambience with a 50x50 pixel image.11:13
Skooz(just to try it - it looks awful)11:13
HelleI want the old scrolling ambiance thing, I had awesome "too tall" images11:14
SkoozOh yea, this is on a 1920x1080 nexus 5 display11:15
phlixi_oand there is some logic which part is shown in case the aspect ratio does not match, i guess its related to rotation... took a while until i had the image i wanted as background...11:15
SkoozI gried a few before realising it needs to be a square of side equal to the longest axis pixel count.11:16
cvpTMavica: so i install now the Kaira Black into OPX, no problems with the resolutions :)11:16
Skooztriex*11:16
Skooztried**11:16
cvponly the colors looks much better than on jolla :D11:17
Skoozhehe11:17
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ced117Hello there, maybe someone can answer my questions19:28
Stskeepsyou can try19:28
ced117does the Jolla C have a NFC chip ? And what about an extension port ?19:29
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r0kk3rzi dont see anything in the specs to indicate such a thing19:29
ced117yes, already checked also, but we never know ;)19:30
ced117i love the TOHs too much... damn.19:31
ced117:)19:31
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r0kk3rzyeah it will be interesting to see what happens with the fp219:32
r0kk3rzusb expansion port offers a lot more possibillities than i2c19:32
attahyeah.. just slightly too much hassle for average joe19:33
ced117i really hope there is some port like this on the jolla c19:33
ced117sadly...19:34
attahi'd have been soo happy with an UART19:34
r0kk3rzyeah there isnt19:34
r0kk3rzwe've seen pictures of the outside and behind battery cover, so mysterious ports19:34
r0kk3rz*no19:34
attahotg/host mode might be there, or?19:36
ced117you saw pictures from behind the battery cover of the jolla c ?19:36
ced117good question also19:36
r0kk3rzced117: jolla c is intex phone in disguise19:36
r0kk3rzalthough its a fairly thin disguise19:36
ced117maybe, but we dont know exactly if they changed something in it or not19:37
r0kk3rznot for 170€ they didnt19:37
ced117we never know19:37
r0kk3rzyeah keep dreaming :)19:39
nh1402I asked about NFC in tjc but no answer19:39
ced117yep saw a question about that !19:39
ced117i'm "following" it already19:40
kimmoliwell, we know on 17th19:40
nh1402fm radio isn't in the spec sheet but it does come with one, which is my reasoning for the question.19:41
ced117:-)19:41
r0kk3rzthat might be because the software doesnt yet support it19:42
r0kk3rzlike the whole BLE thing19:43
nh1402the fm radio?, there's an fm radio app cover in screenshots19:43
r0kk3rzyes its clearly in the works19:44
r0kk3rzbut who knows how finished it is19:44
attahdo we know the criteria for being invited for the event?19:45
r0kk3rzfirst 50 wasnt it?19:45
r0kk3rzyou know the date, if you want to go just turn up and flash the jphone at the door19:46
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attahI'm invited.. but SWE->FIN is much more of a hassle than it should be19:48
Stskeepsattah: they question you at the border for being a spy?19:48
Stskeeps:P19:48
attahattah: Not even when i went to china for work with a motorola c123 (osmcomm-bb) with misc cables soldered on19:49
jaywalkattah: I'm in Sweden too and haven't decided if I should try to show up or not19:49
jaywalkwould probably be a nice trip!19:50
speactra_attah, jaywalk same here, would be fun though19:50
attahdefinitely!19:50
r0kk3rzdo other swedes look at you funny if you say you want to go to finland?19:50
jaywalkr0kk3rz: nope! but they do when I tell them I'm half-finnish :)19:51
attahapparently i forgot how to irc: Stskeeps isn't me :S19:51
Stskeepsthe plot thickens19:52
Stskeeps:P19:52
attahhaha19:52
r0kk3rzjaywalk: heh fair enough19:52
jaywalkattah: atleast you know who you are, that's always a good start!;)19:52
attahjaywalk: on a good day ;)19:52
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attahone problem though.. i don't have a laptop worth bringing.. and I imagine that it's kinda recommended19:57
jaywalkattah: quick fingers and a tohkbd works too.:)20:01
attahjaywalk: tablet and external keyboard ^^20:02
jaywalkor as i am currently on: a jolla tablet and a frogpad (duckduckgo it:)!20:02
jaywalkattah: ^20:02
attahnot bad20:02
jaywalkits starting to show its age but was a very good design and idea for its time20:03
jaywalkpondering if i should design my own copy as this one is bound to break down and they don't make new ones20:04
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jaywalk... and possibly add dedicated åäö keys in the process:)20:05
r0kk3rzah doug englebarts dream20:06
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* attah digs up thinkpad R60 and a ssd20:07
jaywalkattah: a very good choice! that's a keybord i'll always miss.20:10
jaywalks/bord/board/20:10
attahyup20:12
attahit's this or a macbook air 2010 that i'd need to update/linuxify20:12
jaywalkI know which one I would've picked:)20:13
attahtoo bad worksation and 32'' display is not something you take in a backpack20:15
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kimmolir0kk3rz: there is also piratefm which works :D20:23
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r0kk3rzwill be cool to have a phone with fm radio again20:51
r0kk3rzuseful for when i go to races20:51
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nh1402r0kk3rz: formula 1?21:23
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pdanekwhattttttttttttttt21:37
pdanekJolla C?21:37
pdanekwhere do I preorder?21:37
phlixi_to late21:37
pdanekohhhhhhh21:38
pdaneknoooooo21:38
phlixi_:/21:38
pdanekshit21:38
altker128Yeah, sucks.21:38
phlixi_but hey, you wouldnt be happy with only 2gb ram, wouldnt you?21:38
pdanek:D21:39
pdanekgood point21:39
pdanekbut 2 is better than 121:39
phlixi_true21:39
altker128Galaxy S4 only has 2GB21:39
pdanekis that going to be different from Aqua Fish?21:39
pdanekor exactly same hardware?21:39
speactrapdanek: probably exactly the same21:40
phlixi_afaik nothing official,  but pretty sure its identical hardware except a sticker on the back or something like that21:40
pdanekwhat will be sooner21:41
pdanekJolla C or Aqua Fish?21:41
speactrapdanek: jolla c will ship in july so problably it21:41
phlixi_but would be silly to not "just get 1k from 'your oem'" and instead make something different AND then limit to 1k21:41
altker128Anyone looked at getting SailfishOS on the Ubuntu Touch variant of the MeizuPro5 ?  I would expect that to be reasonable since Touch uses libhybris21:42
phlixi_you can get one in 2 weeks if you show up in person21:42
phlixi_Time: Friday June 17, 2016, 3pm.21:43
phlixi_...helsinki21:43
Milo-shame about the bigger display on C-type :/21:43
pdanekso you think Aqua Fish will start selling later than Jolla C?21:43
Milo-a smaller would have been nicer.21:43
speactraphlixi_: i think that is only for those who managed to order the phone. if you didn't buy it you wont get one there either21:43
pdanekI need whatever is soonest21:43
pdanekI'm now few months with Android21:43
pdanekand it's pain21:43
phlixi_speactra: yes of course, but if you ordered, it is possible to get it in 2 weeks, instead of getting it shipped in july21:44
pdanekbtw21:44
pdanekwhy would they get just 1000?21:44
phlixi_pdanek maybe i have a jolla1 for sale, including unused first one toh and barly used kbdtoh2 (well, maybe in july)21:45
pdanekJolla 1 has 1GB ram21:45
pdanekcan't use it anymore21:45
pdanekjust can't21:45
phlixi_i knew you dont want it..21:45
pdanekmy health is just one21:45
pdanek1GB ram had impact on my health21:46
pdanek:D21:46
phlixi_^^21:46
pdanekwhyyyyyyyyy did I miss Jolla C21:46
pdanekno email from jolla.com, nothing21:46
phlixi_didnt read your mail?21:46
pdaneknothing in mail21:46
phlixi_it was anounced last week21:46
pdaneklast email I have from jolla.com is: Sailfish OS update Taalojärvi available now! 21:47
pdanekwas it only for The First Ones?21:47
phlixi_it was probably from community@jolla.com to devel@lists.sailfishos.org21:48
phlixi_no for devel@lists.sailfishos.org21:48
pdanekright!21:49
pdanekwhat do I do now21:49
phlixi_if you really want one, maybe someone on this channel who ordered one doesnt want it any longer and you might get it from him or her; thus keep your eyes open?21:50
phlixi_check ebay in july?21:50
pdanekMESSAGE TO CITIZENS OF THIS CHANNEL21:51
phlixi_i am sure someone is looking for bargain and ordered one for guys like you :-)21:51
pdanekhmm21:51
pdanekwill it have Android support?21:52
phlixi_have a short dial for this one...21:52
phlixi_There is https://jolla.com/jollac and the first thing mentioned there on the spec sheet is: "Operating system Pure Sailfish OS 2.0 compatible with Android™ apps" I think this leaves no doubt, that "pure" means "no third party vendor crap preinstalled" in contrast to "no androd support"21:52
pdanekoh ok :D21:52
phlixi_:)21:52
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pdanekWhat's your guess on Aqua Fish availability?21:53
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phlixi_i think its the only reason to currently buy a device with sailfish on it (besides supporting jolla, but they said they wont profit from the device sales), because of ports to nice other devices21:54
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phlixi_i am pretty sure it will come soon, to india, since i bet its manufactured in the same run. but there is a theory, that jollac is the first batch, and maybe next batch (probably more fixes) is aquafish21:55
phlixi_...but i think its unlikely to have a beta batch of 1000. on the other hand i am not in that business.21:55
pdanekI need alpha batch!21:55
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pdanekwhatever they have21:55
pdanekthrow it at me21:55
pdanekI buy two21:55
pdanekI can get shipping from India too21:56
phlixi_then i guess you wont have no bad sideeffects from geting an aquafish instead of a jollac21:56
phlixi_i asume the intex one comes with snapdeal extra software or whatever similar stuff one probably does not want on it, but there might be ways to get rid of it?21:57
pdanekyes, it will come with something they call "superapps"21:58
pdanekit will be accessed by swiping to sides21:58
phlixi_yep, that i meant21:58
pdanekand integrated to the system21:58
phlixi_silly name "superapps" i think21:59
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pdanekWTB Jolla C, please PM me, anyone22:05
pdanekhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9677922:05
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pdanekseriously22:14
pdanekI need it22:14
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