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r0kk3rzhttp://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/06/oysters-sf-new-salfish-os-powered-smartphone.html07:36
r0kk3rzoyster fish!07:36
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r0kk3rzah, phone for the russian market, makes sense07:37
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tadzikweird to include those capacitive buttons07:41
tadzikI guess that's just a re-used android phone07:41
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the_mgtblue oyster phone?07:48
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kimmolisalad bar07:55
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jubo2Hiya.. Loaned my phone to a friend and something happened to it that it doesn't recognize there is functional sim-card inserted. Any ideas what could have caused this11:28
jubo2Phone does not seem physically harmed11:28
Jopethere's a little sliver of metal in the sim holder that acts as the sim detect switch11:28
Jopeso I'd blame that11:28
jubo2Jope: thanks. I see it11:29
jubo2it slides to the left and supposedly connects a circuit11:29
jubo2or disconnects one11:30
jubo2either one of those I assume11:30
jubo2Jope: Any idea how to alleviate the situation11:30
jubo2coz my other friend needs the phone and it ain't much fun without a functional sim-card reader/drive11:30
jubo2Now downloading Björnträsket over WiFi btw11:31
jubo2after that comes the 2.0 upgrade, yes?11:31
jubo2I totally get that sometimes going straight to the latest version is no-go11:32
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pp__it's somethingl like 4 updates from 1.0.0 to 2.0.111:32
jubo2ait thänks for info pp__11:33
jubo2Damn some of these spammers are stupid.. Not even checking the expiry dates on domains and instead just forging some date11:33
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neochapayAaaaaaaaaaaaaaand sailgrande is so so work :) https://twitter.com/neochapay/status/74050779164381593611:38
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r0kk3rzneochapay: woo \o/11:38
jubo2now installing Björnträsket11:39
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jubo2Does anyone think there is a chance that the SW upgrades would fix the "sim-card not detected to be present"-situation11:39
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pp__tried alcohol?-)11:40
jubo2pp__: rubbing alcohol?11:40
r0kk3rzjubo2: i doubt it, but it wont hurt11:40
Yaniel-is that a pun11:40
jubo2alcohol is a solvent and can be applied to remove grease and such shit, that is true11:40
pp__cleaning contacts, I originally had to replace my sim card11:41
jubo2We've tried many sims and the sims are fine11:41
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jubo2now installing Sailfish212:41
jubo2or updating to Sailfish212:41
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jubo2So it seems the system responsible for detecting if there is sim card or not is broken12:42
jubo2How much to change the unit to a functioning one?12:42
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Tomohmm, wasn't bad sim card contacts a common issue that caused random reboots etc?12:47
Tomoand the common solution was carefully cleaning the contacts12:48
r0kk3rzTomo: battery contacts12:48
Tomooh12:48
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Tomomy bad :)12:48
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entilhttps://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Foysters.ru%2Fproducts%2Fsmartphone%2Fsmartfon_oysters_sf%2F13:49
entilwhee13:49
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jubo2mmm..13:56
jubo2now downloading Saimaa on mah 100Mbit/s land line via WiFi13:56
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jubo2Somebody's got a throttling on the update server bandwidth13:57
jubo2coz 250MB doesn't usually load this slow13:57
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mornfalluhm, what's the command to install packages again?14:05
mornfallha, pkcon... probably14:05
mornfallor no14:05
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mornfallhow do I debug ssl errors on outgoing smtp?14:07
mornfallnothing in journal, apparently14:07
mornfallnothing in /var/log either14:07
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Nicd-mornfall: pkcon install or pkcon install-local14:08
Nicd-try journalctl -fa and see if any interesting output comes up when you try to send14:09
Nicd-preferably from a computer so you get longer scrollback and easier search14:09
mornfallerror: send failed and sync completed with Errors!!!. [sic]14:09
mornfallyeah I am ssh'd in14:10
mornfallthe UI just says 'problem' and that's about it14:11
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mornfallone possibility is that the CA bundle on sailfish does not include letsencrypt (which would be odd, though, wouldn't it?)14:14
mornfallfirefox accepts the same cert just fine14:14
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mornfalloh indeed14:15
mornfallthe ca bundle on sailfish is ... outdated, I guess14:15
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mornfalloh dear, oct 201514:16
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sakustaranyone need 2 car batteries before i haul em off?14:18
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sakustarextra power for jolla or what ever14:19
sakustar:D14:19
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mornfallNicd-: ok, providing the full chain solved the problem (at least the sailfish browser told me what the error was)14:22
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mornfallnow it's back to authentication failed :P14:22
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mornfall\o/ accpted authentication14:26
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mornfallso after a couple years I can finally send mail from my phone :P14:37
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Nicd-mornfall: providing the root CA in the chain is useless15:09
Nicd-but you should always provide all intermediates15:10
mornfallI just switched to the fullchain.pem letsencrypt generated instead of just cert.pem... maybe I should read the docs to see what is supposed to be what15:11
mornfall(what confused me is that it works without intermediaries on desktop, I guess)15:12
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Nicd-some browsers download intermediate certs from outside sources automatically15:15
Nicd-fullchain includes the intermediates but not the root (as it shouldn't)15:15
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Nicd-for example command line tools don't download intermediates usually, so without them the site will be broken for many use cases15:16
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jubo2Even if the sim-card reader ain't working it is still a phone that has a black shell for consumer15:30
jubo2so the consumer can 'sudo su' and proceed to break it15:31
jubo2that ain't all fun.. then again .. it is fun15:31
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