#jollamobile log for Monday, 2016-07-11

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japa-fiIs there an application which shows the cell network signal level? My phone is spending way too much in 2G connectivity that I suspect the antenna might have been damaged (one too many drops). Would like to compare values with another phone05:28
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ganhi everyone13:30
ganhi lainwir3d13:31
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Nicd-hi gan13:33
ganhi Nicd-13:33
ganmy jolla is dead13:34
gan:-(13:34
gani put it in rice bucket as advised for two days....it just doesnt start13:34
ganfeels like hell to use android samsung phone13:35
gan:-(((((((13:35
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kimmolihöh13:36
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ganwhat to do13:44
ganjolla experts13:44
ganplease help me :-(13:45
Yanielsend to care13:45
r0kk3rzgan: you've done a good job of then :)13:45
ganthats the only option? even i wrote to care few days back related to android app not starting - and they said they are not operating until August.13:46
gangood job in breaking ?13:46
r0kk3rzif its proper bricked, then they're the only ones with the tools to sort it out13:46
gani didn't do anything to break it13:47
ganhow do we confirm it13:47
ganthats it bricked13:47
r0kk3rzcan you get it to do anything?13:47
the_mgtif it is functionally identical to a brick, then it is bricked...13:47
Yanielwell if you can't start it even into recovery mode despite it having battery / being connected to charger then it's by definition a brick13:47
ganlol @ the_mgt13:48
gannot funny :-P13:48
r0kk3rzgan: well this is where the term 'bricked' comes from after all13:49
ganaahhhh thats it then13:49
gandamn!!!!!13:49
ganmaybe my N900 is bricked too13:49
ganthat doesnt start either13:49
the_mgtI'd recommend an update of the user13:50
the_mgt:-P13:50
tbrlayer 8 problem detected13:50
tbrbtw: AFAIU you can fastboot a recovery over usb, but it's not for the faint hearted13:50
mal-I was just wondering can that device even go to fastboot mode13:51
tbrthat would need to be checked13:51
mal-yes, if not then it's really bad13:52
r0kk3rzgan: did you unlock the bootloader?13:52
ganno i didnt unlock the bootloader13:54
ganit doesnt go into fastboot mode13:54
ganeither13:54
ganu press volume down and power button simultaneously right?13:55
r0kk3rzno, voldown + insert usb i think13:56
mal-yes, voldown + connect to a pc with usb cable13:57
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ganwith battery?13:59
ganhmmm i will try13:59
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gantoo bad i got a reply from jolla care15:05
ganthey said they need a physical address from EU with phone and email and they can help if i can ship from that location15:05
ganI am from India :-(15:06
ganthis really sucks!15:06
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r0kk3rzgan: did you buy from jolla or snapdeal?15:10
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ganjolla shop15:11
r0kk3rzah15:11
gani got it shipped to a friend in UK and he brought it when he came to india15:11
gannow they don't accept UK too15:11
r0kk3rzwhy not?15:12
lainwir3dbrexit15:12
lainwir3dlol15:12
gannot part of EU15:12
ganthey say15:12
gan:(15:12
r0kk3rzlol, yes it is15:12
ganwhat the hell15:12
RenaultUK it is in EU15:12
ganwhy cant they just take the device if i ship from india15:12
Renaultfor the moment, or for ever :)15:12
baltaHi, is anybody here and can help? It seems I've bricked my Jolla very bad... :(15:13
baltaThe device was stuck with a red blinking led, after half an hour I removed the battery and now it seems to be dead. Nothing happens when pressing the power button, the revery mode is not working either15:13
FireFlyIt's still a member of the EU for now15:13
Yanielare all sbj1's bricking today?15:13
baltaIf I connect it to my Linux PC it is detected as 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)15:13
baltaI already found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96886 but there is no solution :(15:14
* Yaniel is 250km away from his so can't check15:14
ganbalta15:14
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ganeven my device is bricked15:14
gan:(15:14
gani am trying hard for past few days15:14
ganwhere are you from?15:14
baltagermany... why?15:14
ganohh atleast you have a chance mate15:15
ganyou can send it to jolla care15:15
Yaniel(then again it was still alive yesterday)15:15
ganthey replied to me saying they need address in EU, so they can service and send it back to that address. I am from India15:15
r0kk3rzgan: you should be able to send it to your friend in the uk, and then to jolla15:15
ganthey are not accepting UK address now15:15
ganthey need address in EU15:15
ganit seems15:15
r0kk3rzthe uk is in the eu15:16
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baltasadly it is out of warranty... and I'm waiting for my Jolla C so I do not know if my Jolla would be back before my Jolla C :D15:16
gan15:16
gan15:16
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ganjolla says UK is not15:17
baltaand if I read the thread on tmo it seems just to be a softare problem, so I should be able to fix it myself If I know how15:17
r0kk3rzgan: then the person you're talking to needs their head examined15:17
gani just need my jolla examined :-(15:17
ganohh if its out of warranty , they wont repair?15:18
ganmy device is over 2 yrs old15:18
r0kk3rzthey will, you'll have to pay15:18
ganoh ok.15:18
baltaThey would repair, but you would have to pay15:18
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ganbalta, why dont u consider sending to jolla care15:18
gan?15:18
baltaAs I've written i would have to pay, and I'm awaiting my Jolla C (hopefully this month?) so it would be possible my Jolla would be back after my Jolla C :D15:19
baltaDoes anybody know when the Jolla C will be delivered? :)15:22
r0kk3rzLarstiQ: can you thump whoever in the Care team doesnt think the UK is in the EU15:22
baltaOr... can anybody help with my "Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)" problem?15:23
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Stskeepsbalta: take out usb cable, then battery, let it rest for a while, then plug battery back in, power on, nothing else15:24
ganoh lucky you ...i missed to sign up for jolla c15:25
ganthinking intex aquafish will be launched soon in india15:25
gandamn....i am stuck now15:25
baltaStskeeps: I will try, thanks... How long is a while? :)15:25
Stskeepsgan: what city are you in?15:25
Stskeepsbalta: ~15 minutes15:25
ganindia, chennai15:25
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baltaStskeeps: the device is still not powering up... and it is not detected at all as USB device15:56
baltaat least it is not a Quallcom modem anymore... but now it is nothing :(15:59
Stskeepsbalta: put it in the provided charger with a proper usb cable for a while16:00
Stskeepsbalta: what did you do before it went all pear-shaped?16:00
baltaI do not have the provided charger here, but another 2A charger, will try if it is loading16:01
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baltaI was in an area with very very poor network coverage, no WLAN, just the lowest possible value for 2G network. It was freezing a lot every few seconds, especially while using WhatsApp (Android)...16:03
baltaOne moment it started to show a black screen with the LED flashing red, like it is restarting the home screen16:04
baltaBut this flashing was not stopping, and after half an hour I removed the battery16:04
baltaAfter reinserting it didn't show up anything16:04
Stskeepsbalta: ok, let's see what charger helps16:05
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baltaThe display and the LED is not showing that it is charging at all, could it still be charging?16:06
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ganexact problem as mine16:08
ganbalta16:08
ganbtw just got update from jolla, they say shipping from india is costly for me and them and they wont do it16:08
gan:(16:08
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Stskeepsbalta: give it some time, if that fails, gently clean the battery contacts somehow16:11
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baltaStskeeps: after letting it charge some time it is still not powering up, but now if I connect the charger or the PC the LED is flashing yellow one time and it is showing as 05c6:f006 Qualcomm, Inc. in lsusb16:52
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baltainterestingly the yellow LED shows up even if there is no battery inserted at all, but then the PC is not detecting anything16:54
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tbrqualcomm means it's comming up in fastboot IIRC16:56
baltaIt's a huge step forwards from my QDL mode in the beginning isn't it?16:58
tbrhave you cleaned the battery contacts?16:58
baltayes as far as I could... if I just could be at home and check the battery using my multimeter...16:59
Stskeepsbalta: try get a fastboot devices?17:00
Stskeeps(android-tools-fastboot under ubuntu)17:01
baltaperhaps the battery is just dead... The last weeks I was happy if it lasted the day... :(17:01
Stskeepswell, odd it doesn't come up in without-battery mode17:01
baltaI'm using openSUSE, but I have fastboot installed, will try ;)17:01
Stskeepsvolume down w/o battery and insert usb should get it into fastboot mode17:02
* tbr still needs to order one of these: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/B0PA2100-2000mAh-Battery-For-HTC-Desire-310-310W-Replacement-Batterie-Batterij-Bateria/32364005734.html17:02
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Stskeepsbalta: anyway, give it longer time on charger, seems like 05c6:f006 is a 'flat battery' mode17:04
tbrif it thinks the battery is very low on charge, then it will only trickle charge. 20mA-50mA (no idea hat a QC PMIC exactly does)17:05
baltafastboot devices is showing nothing :( I will let it charge more time... how long are you available today? :)17:05
Stskeepsbalta: let it charge for a few hours and poke me again in the morning. i usually go to sleep in about 3 hours17:06
baltaok then thanks a lot, I will be online tomorrow again :)17:06
baltabtw... if I will not get it back to live... any news about the Jolla C delivery? Do I need to buy some cheap android device in the mean time? ;)17:07
r0kk3rz"sorting out delivery issues" was the last update17:08
r0kk3rzbut if everyones on holidays....17:08
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baltammh that meens it will be delivered "soon"... :(17:10
r0kk3rzwith jolla everything is SoonTM17:11
kimmolijolla should really get from SOON to NOW mode...17:11
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tbrI thought it was downgraded from soon™ to maybe™17:15
AL13N:)17:17
kimmoliif you missed the may delivery windowd, you may wait for next may.17:17
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baltabut even if it's one year late... I still love my Jolla Tablet, it's a great device and was worth waiting17:19
urs"I'll just buy the second batch when it comes out then."17:21
sakustarwho has only 1 phone anyway17:21
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r0kk3rzbalta: you dont find it too heavy?17:26
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baltayes it is a bit heavy, but I got used to it very fast and now I find some other tablets too light :D17:32
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baltaIt's just like SailfishOS... in the beginning the usage feels quite complex, but after a short time using an Android phone feels like using some old device17:34
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SnorasWhat's the default fstab options on the Jolla phone?17:36
kimmolibalta: yep, it is hard to go back, even never actually used Android17:39
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r0kk3rzbalta: i got an android tab as my jtab replacement, its pretty good actually17:39
baltaI have to use Android and even iOS for my work sometimes (developing web applications and app backends) and both feel clumsy for me as Sailfish user17:40
baltaPersonally I had never used Android too, coming from Symbian (808 PureView) directly to Jolla17:41
HelleAndroid on tablets is okayish, on phones it's painful17:42
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r0kk3rzthe additions to the sonytab are rather nice, most of its stock android ui17:48
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HtheBdoes anyone know why WhatsApp sometimes does not see my phone contacts?17:59
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HtheB??18:02
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coderusHtheB: sometimes?18:04
HtheBcoderus: yes, I really dont know why, but sometimes I just get my contacts18:04
HtheBand sometimes, they're just gone18:05
coderusHtheB: same or new?18:05
HtheBsame18:05
coderussounds weird :)18:05
HtheBit's like the app cannot detect the contacts on my phone18:05
HtheBI can only talk to people who has talked to me before (and if I didn't delete the chat)18:06
HtheBit shows up as a number only18:06
HtheBlike if that number is not saved on my phone18:06
coderuslol18:06
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HtheBany idea what I can do? Like editing a file to see what might be wrong?18:08
HtheB(android contacts file?)18:08
HtheBthe database18:12
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coderusi dont think android is using separate contact database18:26
coderusbut it can use own database as well18:26
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Ingvixhow much did Jolla C cost when it was available at jolla shop19:33
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Dotti_169€19:35
Ingvixthat's quite cheap19:35
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