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r0kk3rzwe get a cloud backup option in 2.0.2? interesting08:51
Nicd-to where?08:53
Stskeeps /dev/null? :D08:53
Stskeeps:P08:53
Nicd-considering it's Jolla, that doesn't sound too far fetched08:53
Yanielcontext?08:55
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r0kk3rznot sure 'to where' i was hoping someone with the Jolla C might jump in09:01
r0kk3rzi didnt think Jolla wanted to get into the service providing business09:01
Stskeepsnot a jolla service09:02
Stskeeps:P09:02
r0kk3rzso partnering with some existing cloud provider, cool09:02
Stskeepsyou need to partner in this day and age? :P09:02
Yanielhow about being able to do a "cloud backup" to my NAS09:02
ppyounited :D oh wait09:04
kimmolionedrive and dropbox (?)09:08
tbrrsync ftw!09:09
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r0kk3rzemails backup straight to NSA-Cloud-Storage09:09
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Stskeepsr0kk3rz: now if nsa was using ipfs we could all benefit09:12
Stskeeps:P09:12
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kimmolihttps://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social/blob/master/rpm/sociald.spec#L42409:15
kimmolihttps://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social/tree/master/src/dropbox/dropbox-backup09:18
kimmolijust make your own sociald-rsync-backup plugin?09:18
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citylight2r0kk3rz: hi there I found the kulpit to my missing sound was the pulse audio suspend module09:46
r0kk3rzie. not waking back up when it should?09:47
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citylight2yep09:50
citylight2how to debug this issue?09:51
r0kk3rzprobably log a mer bug about it09:54
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citylight2where to report a mer ug09:58
citylight2where to report a mer bug09:58
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r0kk3rzcitylight2: https://bugs.merproject.org/10:30
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Ingvixis there no way to use android app requiring android version higher than 4.1 on Jolla?13:41
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Ingvixright now it's saying problem parsing package when trying to install apk13:43
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the_mgtIngvix: that is the usual and tremendously stupid default android message, when you try that13:51
the_mgthappens on real android hardware too13:51
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IngvixI know but that doesn't really help me13:58
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RaimIngvix: AlienDalvik on Jolla 1 is only compatible with Android 4.114:09
Ingvixa shame14:12
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r0kk3rzStskeeps was teasing people on twitter about an update to 4.414:19
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zbeasnyyIngvix: are you trying to install pokemon go? :P14:28
* tbr would not recommend to play that under aliendalvik, unless you like your account suspended for cheating14:29
ursI'm sure they'll release a native SailfishOS version!14:30
zbeasnyydoesn't work anyway14:30
zbeasnyy(according to TJC)14:30
Tofetbr: the game is too easy for this community?14:30
ursIf only we all hope for it strongly enough!14:30
tbrhrhrhr14:31
ursTofe: it has reached a level where it is no longer relevant as a game per se, but as a cultural phenomenon14:31
TofeI wonder how long that one will last14:32
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r0kk3rzit will be much more interesting once they put in battles and quests14:42
r0kk3rzwhich was hinted at in the teaser months ago14:42
r0kk3rzrather than the current 'collect pokemangz, train them in the gym'14:42
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TofeNothing a wrench can't fix14:51
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Ingvixgöfö läks heti panemisen jälkeen17:29
Ingvixjätti kun nallin kalliolle17:29
locusfnow thats a wrong window17:30
Ingvixyes17:30
Ingvixvery17:31
Stskeepsgoogle translate claims the word 'fisting' is involved17:38
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Nicd-it's wrong17:39
Nicd-paneminen = fucking17:40
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Ingvixfisting was not included in the act17:42
kimmoliok this os17:44
kimmoliis #jollamobile..17:44
kimmolicheck17:44
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baltaStskeeps Hey are you there? Do you remember my bricked Jolla, we talked Monday about it18:13
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pdanekAnyone received Turing phone here?18:22
pdanekThey started shipping.18:22
baltaCan anybody tell me what battery voltage the jolla phone needs at minimum?18:22
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Nicd-they are actually shipping?18:25
Nicd-I'm surprisde18:25
Nicd-surprised*18:25
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HtheBNicd-: what?18:30
HtheBJolla C?18:30
HtheBTuring phone18:30
HtheB?18:30
pdanekTuring Phone18:30
pdanekJolla C is not shipping yet right?18:30
Armadillocorrect18:30
Nicd-turing18:30
Armadillohttps://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/75319855362802073618:30
Armadillo@ pdanek18:30
Stskeepsbalta: how's it going with it?18:31
baltathere's nothing new sadly :( Still just the yellow LED after hours of charging18:32
baltaNow I've got a Multimeter and tested the voltage of my battery, it's just 3.0V... Could that be the problem?18:33
Nicd-I'm wondering where the Intex phone is18:35
Nicd-is it out yet?18:35
pdanekno sign off Intex, I expect November 201618:37
pdanekof*18:37
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mal-balta: my jolla phone battery shows 3.96 V18:40
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Armadillo3,0V is extremely low18:41
mal-yes18:41
Armadillobalta is the led blinking yellow?18:43
baltaSo this could be the problem?18:43
baltaIt is flashing one time yellow if I plug in the charger18:43
ArmadilloJolla blinks yellow if battery is out of device but connected to usb charger18:43
HtheBwhen will they ship the C anyway?18:45
HtheBIf some people already have them, why need to wait for shipping?18:45
Armadillohave a look at the twitter link above18:45
ArmadilloI think only the lucky 50 guys of the community event have their JollaCs18:46
Armadillothe rest is at hongkong18:46
HtheBArmadillo: yeah just checked the link indeed18:46
HtheBbut how come? Why 50 already there and the rest isn't?18:46
HtheBit's not fair :(18:46
HtheBI need to send my phone to repair18:46
HtheBbut I cant, no replacement :(18:46
Armadillobecause they got it at the community event18:47
baltaI'm also waiting for my Jolla C... and my Jolla 1 is not powering up... :(18:47
HtheBbalta: ouch18:47
mal-balta: do you happen to know anyone near you with a jolla 1 so you could try it with their battery?18:48
baltaSadly no :(18:48
baltaI have to go, will be back in about one hour, if anybody has any idea I will read the logs :)18:51
kimmolibalta: you need something like this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mobile-Universal-Battery-Charger-LCD-Indicator-Screen-For-Cell-Phones-1-USB-Port-/27130586054218:51
baltakommoli thanks, I will search for a one shipping to germany :)18:52
baltado they work with any battery?18:52
Armadillobalta where are you from?18:53
baltagermany, near Hannover18:53
Armadillohm ok :x18:54
baltaare you from germany too? At the moment I'm in Duisburg :D18:56
Armadilloyes, but from Munich ;)18:56
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Stskeepsbalta: what does lsusb say if you pull usb, then battery, hold down volume down, put in usb cable to computer?18:58
Stskeepsit should show jolla logo18:58
Armadillois it possible to boot into system from fastboot mode?18:59
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mal-Stskeeps: I just tested fastboot mode out of curiosity but it doesn't seem to work, display says fastboot mode but fastboot devices doesn't show it, not really a problem since my phone works fine but still strange19:03
Stskeepsmal-: you need a -i19:03
Stskeepshence lsusb19:03
mal-Stskeeps: ok19:04
Stskeeps-i 0x293119:04
mal-Stskeeps: why does it need that, my ported devices do not need that?19:05
Stskeepsit's a custom usb id19:08
mal-ok19:09
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pdanekhttps://twitter.com/Eerzan1/status/75326365292549734419:15
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baltaStskeeps if I do that it's flashing the yellow LED one time, but no Jolla logo, and lsusb is not listing the device, and there is no output in dmesg19:57
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Stskeepsbalta: that's not good20:05
baltaso it cannot be just the battery? :(20:05
Stskeepsbalta: volume down w/ battery out; and then putting in usb shows 'fastboot mode' and jolla logo on my significantly beaten jolla20:06
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baltaso my jolla seems to be more beaten :'(20:08
baltathat would be my first phone to be dead before being replaced... and that by just a few days if the Jolla C will be delivered soon :(20:10
baltaDo you have any idea I could do besides sending the device to Jolla?20:11
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Ingvixturing seemed promising until "Non-removable battery"21:11
ahjolinnathere is always something to bitch about21:12
IngvixDoes someone know how much it'll cost?21:12
Yaniel1k€21:12
Ingvixthat's quite a lot21:13
Yanielaye21:13
ahjolinnathere is like 3 versions, 16gb, 64gb and 128gb21:13
Yaniel(no idea hhow accurate, I heard that a rather long time ago)21:13
Ingvixwhat other options would there be in the near future?21:13
Ingvixoh21:13
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Yanielfairphone21:14
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ahjolinnaapprently it will have the snapdragon 820 instead of 80121:14
Ingvixwhat's the difference21:14
RaimIngvix: well, the removable battery in Jolla 1 did not help that much either ;-)21:15
ahjolinnahttp://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/snapdragon-820-vs-snapdragon-81021:16
ahjolinnadamn wrong21:16
Ingvixwell yea, but it it more easily replaced if gone broken21:16
Yanielthat's the joke21:16
Ingvixwell, yes21:16
Yanielyou can't replace something that you don't have replacements for21:17
IngvixTrue21:17
Liekewell there are the htc desire batteries that supposedly work21:18
IngvixI guess it would be a good call to buy some other sfos phone21:18
Liekei'm still waiting for the fairphone 2..21:18
Ingvixto be released with sfos or to be shipped?21:19
IngvixI only see android fairphone in their shop right now21:20
Liekefor the official release with sfos21:20
Ingvixokay, yea21:20
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the_mgtthe non-replacebale batteries in iphones are replaceable too, did that once for an iphone4. wasn't hard at all. I guess it got a bit harder21:22
Yanielthe weird screws that they are using nowadays certainly don't make it easier21:22
Ingvixwhat ever makes more money21:23
the_mgtYaniel: you get complete replacement kids, with every tool included21:23
the_mgtI also got this 52 bit set from ifixit for problems like that21:24
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Ingvixdoes fairphone have much of extra euros in its price for being ethical and all?21:28
Liekehttps://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Fairphone2-Cost-Breakdown.pdf21:32
r0kk3rzIngvix: mostly because its a low volume bespoke device21:32
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Ingvixhmm, okay. Are there other sfos phones coming up, other than turing and fairphone?21:36
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Yanielaqua fish21:37
Yanielbut I'm not at all sure you'll be able to buy it outside of india21:37
r0kk3rzIngvix: at least theres a choice :P21:38
Ingvixyes21:39
r0kk3rzfor a long time it was jphone or jphone or jphone21:39
the_mgtthere was this https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-community-device-program-jolla-c-second-batch/21:39
Ingvixand who know, maybe more of Jolla C will come around21:39
Ingvixknows*21:39
Ingvixat some point21:39
r0kk3rzyeah dont hold your breath21:39
Ingvixtbr, why would one get banned in pokemon go for playing it with aliendalvik?21:42
tbrIngvix: because they banned everyone who played ingress with a Jolla phone21:42
Liekealso happened with ingress21:42
Lieke*with a friend playing ingress21:43
Ingvixoh, I wonder why21:43
r0kk3rzprobably due to the way it handles GPS21:43
Liekeguess it's a cheat detection thing or something21:43
Ingvixwell, good thing I got an android tablet21:44
tbrdoesn't look like a standard android device → must be a cheater21:44
tbrsome knowledgeable people tried to reach niantic and reason with them...21:45
tbrwent nowhere21:45
Liekegood thing i don't play games that involve being outside21:45
r0kk3rzyeah what kind of crazy idea is that anyway21:45
Liekeright?21:46
IngvixI actually just installed ingress to my jolla21:46
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Ingvixguess I better uninstall it21:46
Ingvixlooking at the turing phone's specs, who the hell needs 128gb storage on a phone?21:49
the_mgteveryone that cant just put in a sdcard21:49
the_mgtthe camera takes 18mp pics and hd movies take an awful lot of space21:50
the_mgtplus music. some people have huge music libraries21:50
Ingvixthe camera is 13 mp but fair enough21:50
Ingvixyea, guess I'm not much of media hoarder21:51
the_mgt16gb on a mobile device is not much today21:51
the_mgtespecially with never-sure-how-much-it-is-filled btrfs21:51
Ingvixwasn't there some sfos phone in africa too? Or was it one these above mentioned?21:56
Yanielyeah there was some news about one21:58
Yanielcan't remember the name though21:58
sakustarIngvix: android app caches are wild, have 4 apps that are over 1 gb :(21:59
Ingvixtough stuff22:01
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Liekethe african partner is mi-fone22:04
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IngvixI'd like to see what sort of device is this "Turing Gaming Bluetooth Earphone"22:11
Ingvixis it just for one ear or for both so you could use it for music too22:12
YanielI expect it to be this kind of thing: http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17A08/production/_90367769_e91a7f50-36c4-4697-8863-aac8d8ea7ca6.jpg22:14
Ingvixnice22:14
IngvixI guess it's for both as I found this from some article http://www.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Turing-Pack.jpg22:14
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