#jollamobile log for Friday, 2016-07-15

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TMavicamy fd received Jolla C02:19
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ruskiehttp://www.gizmag.com/moto-z-hands-on-review/44359/ <-- so in other words... a toh?07:46
Yanielthat seems to be literally what it is07:47
Nicd-someone add a comment07:48
Accefast!07:48
r0kk3rzi wonder what the interface is07:48
AcceAt least the other halfs provided actually seem to have some functionality from start07:50
r0kk3rzhttp://developer.motorola.com/buy/07:50
AcceSo, they took the good idea and seem to be doing it right07:50
Yanielunfortunately that doesn't help jolla nor sailfish atm07:51
Nicd-is that phone any good?07:51
Nicd-looks like it is very relevant to my interests07:52
r0kk3rzwow, all the interfaces http://developer.motorola.com/explore/system-architecture07:52
Accethe stuff they have ready really looks nice..07:53
r0kk3rzNicd-: i dont think its released yet, but the specs seem good if you dont mind having a 5.5" phone07:53
Nicd-oh it's so big07:53
Accedamn the size maniacs07:53
Acceeven the 5" of Jolla C feels too big07:53
Nicd-"does not include a headphone jack" ಠ_ಠ07:54
r0kk3rzsuper dac toh!07:54
LarstiQYaniel: even so, good ideas deserve to proliferate07:54
Nicd-I don't care about the dac07:55
lpotterjust shows that Jolla was on the right track with TOH07:55
Nicd-stop making stuff so thin a headphone jack doesn't fit07:55
YanielI can't wait for all the exploits07:55
YanielLarstiQ, sure07:55
r0kk3rzlpotter: yeah its a shame that jolla didnt have a hardware partner willing to run with it07:56
r0kk3rz+ could create something like this, rather than being hamstrung by i2c only07:57
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Nicd-they really messed up the whole TOH thing07:57
Yanielwell, it's a shame they lost their original hw partner07:57
r0kk3rzheh, its a project Ara implementation07:58
Nicd-hopefully someone makes a hardware keyboard for it07:59
Nicd-if so, my choice of phone is clear07:59
Yanielso you want a 6.5" phone?08:00
Nicd-I already forgot it was that big :D the size would be the problem then.08:01
Nicd-dunno how big 5.5" is off hand08:01
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Yanieltoo big to use with one hand08:01
r0kk3rz... so use two?08:01
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Accephone that needs two hands all the time is bit clumsy08:04
Yanielnot to mention one that doesn't fit into my pocket08:05
Accebetween 4" and 4.5" should be fine08:06
Yaniel+108:06
Accebut I guess most people value good looks and beauty over practicality, thus big screens08:06
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LarstiQNicd-: 5.5 is oneplus one, which I find a really nice size08:07
Yanielfor me the iphone se has pretty much the ideal form factor08:07
LarstiQAcce: being able to actually read stuff08:07
Nicd-guess I need to ask around to test someone's 5.5 phone08:07
Yanielbut apparently nobody is buying them anyway so why bother making something usable at that size08:07
AcceLarstiQ: I've got Jolla Tablet for books :) smaller screen is fine for well designed news apps and websites08:08
Nicd-I value that the phone actually works (Jolla doesn't) and a HW keyboard would be really really nice. but let's see08:08
LarstiQAcce: tablet is just too much hassle for me reading on the go08:08
LarstiQAcce: or when wrangling my kid08:08
AcceLarstiQ: well, to each their own then08:09
Accejust sad to be in the minority08:09
r0kk3rzit depends on what you use your phone for, big screen is nice for reading and browsing and typing08:09
Acceof small screen likers08:09
r0kk3rzmost people i see with samsungs use two hands to type08:09
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Nicd-hmm, if I make a backup and I _only_ include Messages, Phone and Notes, do you think I can restore it after a factory reset?08:12
r0kk3rzbut i got out my old android with 4" screen, and it did seem pretty nice...08:12
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Nicd-I want to factory reset but I want to keep my messages, notes and call history08:13
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Nicd-(I'm hoping factory reset will fix my contact and calendar issues)08:14
Nicd-does anyone know?08:16
TMavica3 of my friends already pickup their JollaC, but I not...08:17
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r0kk3rzi havent even got an email about it yet...08:20
LarstiQhold your horses08:21
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r0kk3rzLarstiQ: you guys are running out of july :P08:21
LarstiQr0kk3rz: we've shipped a fair bit, working on the notification emails08:22
TMavicaMaybe Cyberport too far for the postman ..08:22
LarstiQTMavica: you'll have to wait a bit longer08:22
TMavicaWhy..08:22
TMavicaAmanda got too...08:22
LarstiQTMavica: because yours wasn't in the first batch shipped08:22
TMavicaHow come08:22
TMavicaI ordered in first batch08:23
r0kk3rzi should've just gone to .fi08:23
LarstiQTMavica: it requires effort and money to get this done08:23
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TMavicaAll of friend got it except me, very sad08:24
LarstiQTMavica: we're doing our best to get it to you in July08:24
Dotti_oh, they are being shipped already?08:24
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TMavicaLarstiQ: I very sad08:25
r0kk3rzTMavica: you'll just have to wallow in your mountain of phones until it arrives08:25
TMavicaThe most important is all my HongKongers got it except mine, it is very...08:26
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TMavicahttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/e7O02ntD/IMG-20160715-WA0008.jpg08:27
TMavicaAmanda is ....08:27
TMavicaKeep send me pic08:27
TMavicaFuxk her08:27
StskeepsTMavica: on the other hand, people are actually getting a jolla product for once08:29
Stskeeps:P08:29
r0kk3rz\o/08:30
Nicd-what are the contents of Messages/blobs/commhistory-tool_groups.dump08:30
TMavicaI helped them, they all picked, except mine, they are laughing at me08:30
Nicd-that is what the backup saves, how do I read it?08:30
LarstiQTMavica: don't worry, you'll get yours08:30
TMavicaWasting my whole holiday today...i go street now08:30
TMavicawaited whole day ready to go Cyberport08:31
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LarstiQTMavica: how about this, I'll tell you when we've shipped your order (besides the shipping notification), and then you don't have to waste more time?08:32
TMavicaNo need. I dont wait08:34
TMavicaJust wait she call me08:35
TMavicaBecause my 3 fd got the device in morning, so I am keep waiting until now08:35
TMavicaNevermind, forget it, maybe I unluck08:36
TMavicaJust I think all my fd got it, why I not? So i keep wait until now08:37
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TMavicaDevice in Hk, ship to hk is local shipping, ship to other country is oversea shipping08:39
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Nicd-ok, time to factory reset08:52
Nicd-uptime record: 60 days 21 hours 25 minutes08:52
phliximaybe try rebot first?08:53
phlixi:D08:53
Nicd-reboot? I have tried many times before08:53
the_mgthm, so the turing phone is being delivered, but is not waterproof...08:53
phlixioh, i thought your current uptime is ...08:53
the_mgtIngvix: it also does not include a bt headset08:53
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: didnt we know this already?08:54
Nicd-phlixi: it is my current uptime but the phone has been non-working for a long time. or rather, the contact and calendar system08:54
r0kk3rzits going to be a dolled up standard OEM design...08:54
Tofethe_mgt: so it will resist being run over by a car, but only if the wheels are dry :p08:55
phlixiwell, if i had an uptime of 60 days, i would definitly try a reboot before factory resetting08:55
Nicd-I'm not placing much hope on the factory reset either since I have done that before too08:57
* Tofe feels like he's the only person here to *not* have ever done a reset of his device.08:58
the_mgtr0kk3rz: dunno, got an email today, notifying me about that. people seem to get a free update to a water proof snapdragen 820 version later on08:59
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: yes they're sending you something else before they send you the real Turing Phone09:02
r0kk3rz... if it ever gets made09:02
the_mgtI wonder what happens to the old phones on excahnge?09:03
the_mgtdo they just replace the board? I guess that is more expensive than building a whole new device09:03
Stskeepsthe_mgt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu809:03
Stskeepsmaybe09:03
Stskeeps:P09:03
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Nicd-phlixi: neither calendar nor contact sync work after reboot09:04
Nicd-in fact the calendar just showed my wife's events a minute ago and now no longer shows them09:05
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Nicd-inserting an event takes a minute for it to appear and it's not synced09:07
r0kk3rzwoo shipping notification \o/09:14
ArmadilloJolla Shop: Shipping confirmation for order #5000140XX09:16
Armadillo:D09:16
Renaultfirst batch?09:17
Armadilloyes09:18
Nicd-errrr09:19
Nicd-backing up my files, I managed to create two directories on the sd card, both called "bak"09:19
Nicd-but they have the same inode09:20
Nicd-ll prints it twice09:20
Yanielthen it's just a hardlink?09:21
Nicd-with the same name in the same folder?09:21
Nicd-I only used mkdir09:21
Yanielmkdir shouldn't allow that09:22
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Nicd-ok, time to reset09:59
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Nicd-oh yeah 1.0.5.16, so nostalgic10:27
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ganhi13:42
ganeveryone13:43
ganhttp://www.ebay.in/itm/Intex-Aqua-Fish-4G-LTE-with-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-5-2GB-RAM-16-GB-8MP-/282098603976?hash=item41ae6317c813:43
ganis this true?13:43
ganhttp://fitnhit.com/news/intex-aqua-fish-affordable-smartphone-is-now-available-to-buy-via-ebay-india/82867/13:43
LarstiQgan: I doubt that13:45
LarstiQgan: ebay has never come up as a distribution method, and now it is suddenly exclusive?13:45
Nicd-"Key Features: Unspecified quad-core CPU" :D13:45
Nicd-"we don't know what's in it, we're just selling it"13:46
ganlol13:49
ganman its too tempting13:49
ganas my jolla is bricked now13:49
ganwhats with the news article13:49
gan??13:49
ganis it a scam13:49
gan?13:49
ursno hw keyboard -> not a smartphone imho. Sorry.13:50
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r0kk3rzi thought it was supposed to be a snapdeal exclusive13:51
Nicd-urs: then I guess there are no smartphones on the market13:52
r0kk3rzNicd-: not many anyway13:54
ganthen N900 was the last smart phone13:55
gan:-P13:55
r0kk3rz*BB Priv13:55
gani just tweeted to Intex India about this link to confirm13:55
tiwakethat smells13:57
tiwakethe latest article I could dig up said not releasing until september13:57
gancan you share that link tiwake13:57
tiwakeoh hmm13:59
tiwakenevermind XD14:00
ursNicd-: indeed, and I keep complaining about the fact to manufacturers, to no avail.14:00
tiwakegan: it was a year old article :-x14:01
ganwhich one14:02
ganthe one u dug up?14:02
tiwakehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/intex-aqua-fish-officially-introduced-as-world-s-first-sailfish-2-0-powered-smartphone-487035.shtml14:03
tiwakelike I said, a day shy of a year old XD14:04
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EYEa_Jolla )01!@14:44
EYEa_)0h14:44
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EYEa_Jolla 215:10
EYEa_anyone15:10
tbrwhat would that be? a new company?15:12
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r0kk3rzJolla 2: Marc Returns!15:17
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tbr"The Android empire strikes back"15:19
EYEa_Jolla phone15:20
EYEa_215:20
EYEa_Jolla 215:20
r0kk3rzJolla C is Jolla 215:21
EYEa_nice15:22
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tbrI'd argue that there is no Jolla 2 and never will be.15:26
tbrC is just a developer device, for which the real product is the aquafish15:27
EYEa_Jolla phone is aging15:27
EYEa_3 year15:28
EYEa_or more15:28
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r0kk3rzit still holds up though15:31
YanielIf the USB port holds up...15:32
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EYEaJolla )01!@16:43
EYEa)0h16:43
EYEaif I got a penny for ever time I said Jolla )0!1@ I would be +++$$$16:45
EYEa Regards to Coderus16:46
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phliximaybe 2-3$...17:59
phlixi...actually not that much :D17:59
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kimmoli32 pennies18:02
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phlixi:)18:28
phlixii was generous, considering missspelled occasions and didnt bother to actually grep the logs :D18:28
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TofeAh, if only SFOS could run on http://xkcd.com/1707/ ... or could it ?18:50
StskeepsTofe: isn't that basically the turing phone?18:53
Stskeeps:P18:53
kimmolispacex impact protection :)18:54
TofeStskeeps: I have actually thinking the same18:54
Tofewas*18:54
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ppturing-complete :D19:16
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SfietKonstantinWwings \o/19:55
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