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Bysmyyrpdanek: I do not know that but it works with native youtube app05:49
YanielYTPlayer does continue playback in the background05:52
Nicd-it's configurable05:54
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Tomoyoutube android app on android wont continue playback which is pretty annoying06:25
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Yanielyoutube ios app doesn't continue playback in the background so I'm not really surprised06:49
Yanielis there any reason to use the android app over the native sailfish one?06:49
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BysmyyrI think that is google some policy06:54
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sakustarYaniel: not really? if youre more familiar with the ui it might be better while driving but id use premade playlists :D07:27
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r0kk3rzRIP BBOS16:00
r0kk3rz"BlackBerry has announced that it plans to stop making its own phones as the struggling company continues to focus on its software and security products"16:01
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stephgis BBIM still a thing?16:08
stephgor did it get lost in the great deluge of chat apps of 2014-1516:09
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tbrthis seems to be a trend, mobile phone companies in name only. Nokia, Jolla, BB, ...16:19
coderusmobile phone companies without mobiles?16:24
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r0kk3rzstephg: bbm lost its purpose when they backdoored it for the nsa16:32
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r0kk3rztbr: do you think they could convince an OEM to put QNX on it? or is BBOS10 basically done16:35
tbrr0kk3rz: I think QNX as a mobile device OS is quite well burried. Last I heard it only was left as possibly a car RTOS.16:38
r0kk3rzmy employers sell a qnx based device, but from what ive heard your only choice is android in the mobile world16:40
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chem|sthttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9766616:54
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pdanekNicd-: Hi, what did you mean it's configurable? You mean I can configure AlienDalvik to force Android apps to be running in background? I mean android apps which normally don't have background support like Youtube18:05
Nicd-pdanek: no I meant the native youtube app YTPlayer18:13
YanielI wouldn't be surprised if the native app used significantly less battery too18:14
Yanielafter all it's not a webapp, unlike the android one18:15
pdanekoh ok, I know the native app18:19
pdanekI wasn't so much interested in youtube specifically, but rather giving an example to understand if AlienDalvik can something play android app in the background without the app itself supporting it :)18:20
pdanekto make the app think that it's actually playing in the foreground :)18:20
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Tegutoo bad YTPlayer doesn't play many songs. "No video streams available"18:23
pdanekI actually ended up using 95% of Android apps on my Jolla before18:25
pdanekbecause they were just more feature full and up to dated18:25
pdanekso perhaps using Sailfish lost sense for me18:25
pdanekI loved the OS, but I'm all about the apps :)18:26
pdanekso back to Android :(18:26
pdanekbut good news, I can maybe buy Google Pixel, codenamed Sailfish!!!18:26
pdaneknew android phone called Sailfish :D18:26
YanielTegu: probably outdated ytdl again18:37
TeguYaniel: ye, probably. however, I even tried LL's video player which is supposedly able to update youtube-dl separately. but even it doesn't seem to help :/  the same video plays just fin on desktop with the newest ytdl18:50
Yaniel:(18:52
Yanielthen again, mpv used to have problems with some videos because the format it requested resolved to DASH18:52
Yanieland it doesn't understand that yet18:53
Yanielapparently that can be worked around with some ytdl config tweak18:53
Teguweird.. the video plays if I grab the URL with "youtube-dl -g", pipe it to a .pls file and open that in LL's video player18:59
Teguand I used the youtube-dl in ~/.local/share/harbour-videoPlayer/harbour-videoPlayer/youtube-dl   so it should work directly as well?19:00
Teguor actually .m3u instead. not sure if it matters19:01
Yanielpretty sure just requesting a non-DASH format would fix it19:01
Teguperhaps19:01
Yanielif you want to try it, the mpv workaround is https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/3571/commits/90306ee10ac43c9ec992fb478532abae0a21085119:04
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Teguoh, mpv has ditched quvi?19:11
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Yaniellong ago19:15
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Teguweird, LL's video player invokes youtube-dl exactly in the same way as I did in command line. blah, I don't bother to compile that to try the http_dash_segments trick and I'll just play these videos on sailfish-browser or something..19:28
Teguhttps://github.com/llelectronics/videoPlayer/blob/master/src/youtubedl-helper.hpp#L5819:28
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Teguasd, it works when I repoaced the youtube-dl of YTPlayer with the updated version from LL's player. too bad it requires root and it's not a long-term solution as google keeps breaking youtube-dl19:40
Helleso anyone want to pay Google infinite money ? because that is the only way they'll stop breaking it19:42
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Tegu:(19:50
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