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temmi_hoonow that pdanek mentioned razor thin phones, are there any THICK modernish phones that are of reasonable size? ideally around 129 × 47 × 21 mm (dimensions of 6310i i just copypasted over)05:31
temmi_hooi hate it when the devices are wide and thin and bend broken in pockets AND when not doing that will cut into your fingers when using05:32
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sakustartemmi_hoo: ottercase will fix that (other brands may also, otter is just the bulkiest ive seen) :D08:03
sakustarand google tells me its otterbox, oh well08:04
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r0kk3rzits funny, how phone manufacturers have outsourced structrual integrity to case makers08:53
Stskeepsexternalising costs to the user08:53
Nicd-temmi_hoo: doesn't match your screen size requirements but Moto Z Play08:54
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mornfallr0kk3rz: yeah, it has to be really thin if you are going to slap an external case on it anyway :P09:13
r0kk3rzbut then they make it so thin that you have to09:18
mornfallvicious cycle09:19
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sakustarcracked my screen for the last time :-(09:57
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mornfallsakustar: no more phones?10:05
sakustarah, i wish :-)10:06
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sobukusOh, no … is this real? Finally the Jolla phone can record videos to sd card. I happily format a 32 GiB card with ext4 and test things … videos get stored there. But then: Recording 2.5 hours results in a 12 GiB file where stuff after about the first 4 GiB seems to be junk.21:19
sobukusIs it known that the Jolla fails to record longer videos?21:20
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tadzikuh-oh :(21:21
sobukusShould I have to resort to hacking the firmware of my digicam to be able to store videos longer than 25 minutes?21:22
sobukus(not that I have any hope of achieving that)21:22
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kimmoliif you xan sacrifice some quality, you can reduce video bitrate21:34
kimmolican*21:34
mornfallnot sure how much more quality there is to sacrifice :P21:34
sobukuskimmoli: Well, so far my assumption is that it's the classic 4 GiB limit and reducing resolution may be a stop-gap measure. But it sucks. I got a 32 GiB sd card. Why not use it?21:36
sobukusIf the Camera app would at least stop recording and throw an error instead of writing junk data.21:37
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sobukusAt least I have to assume it's junk. I cannot seek past about 50 minutes on the Jolla itself nor on mplayer or avidemux.21:37
phlixia lot of the time its about software beeing 32bit21:37
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sobukusphlixi: But large file support is so last century … and even then, I'd expect the header to be wrong, but the video stream should still work …21:38
phlixisounds to mee as if you never had to actually make a software 64bit21:39
sobukusHow's the state of open source with the Jolla apps? Perhaps one could fixup that one.21:39
phlixibut of course it might just be some tiny bug, that just waits for a fix21:39
sobukusphlixi: You're wrong. I suffered massive pain making the API of libmpg123 work in the field with and without largefile support, as I introduced off_t in it.21:40
sobukusI know too much about large file support. There are scars in my brain.,21:40
* sobukus reading up on MP4 container21:42
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sobukusframe=84090 fps=1524 q=-1.0 size= 4105741kB time=00:50:55.68 bitrate=11007.1kbits/s speed=55.4x  [NULL @ 0x1db69e0] Failed to open bitstream filter h264_mp4toannexb for stream 0 with codec copy: Invalid argument21:46
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sobukusThis is ffmpeg trying to get past the magic barrier of the video from the Jolla.21:46
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sobukuskimmoli: Where would I find a setting for the video quality (e.g. record in 720p)?21:54
sobukusI only see one for the still picture resolution.21:54
kimmoliyou can install my camera-settings-plugin21:54
kimmolihttps://github.com/kimmoli/onyx-camera-settings-plugin21:55
kimmolithis is latest camres to make that json file https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-camres21:55
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kimmoliyou can change resolution and bitrate then21:56
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sobukuskimmoli: OK, thanks … these are projects for the SDK, right?21:57
kimmolithose are prebuilt in mer obs too21:58
kimmolihttps://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:kimmoli/onyx-camera-settings-plugin21:58
sobukusah21:58
sobukusWell, I did build software on the Jolla before … but old-school in the terminal;-)21:59
sobukusIs the source code of the camera app avaiable so that one could fix it? Or perhaps a simple recorder program using exported API is in reach?21:59
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kimmolithere is cameraplus somewhere22:00
kimmolidunno then is it gstreamer issue or what22:00
sobukusEwh.22:00
sobukusBut I would be a bit surprised if gstreamer is that stupid.22:01
sobukusI'll open an issue on tjc anyway … and investigate those settings as resort.22:01
kimmolihttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/29609708/record-with-gstreamer-h264-aac-in-mp4-produces-only-partially-playable-file22:01
sobukusOh22:01
sobukuskimmoli: Hm, you happen to know which gstreamer version is active in Sailfish?22:02
sobukusThat bug looks like a match.22:03
kimmolieh. dunno is that in22:03
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sobukuskimmoli: Hm, gstreamer 0.10.36 … I wonder if that patch was backported to the old gstreamer series.22:06
sobukuskimmoli: Is the camera app using gstreamer? Then this would be an easy fix.22:07
kimmoligstreamer is below there yes22:08
* sobukus also wonders if the files would be repairable by fixing the chunk offset values22:08
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sobukusI'm used to source distros … but just perhaps I could manage installing a fixed gstreamer package if that bug still applies.22:09
kimmoliit should be in gst-plugins-bad22:09
sobukusnot good?22:10
mal-it's in -good22:22
sobukuskimmoli: Looking at https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/log/gst/isomp4/gstqtmux.c?h=0.10 … I do see guint64 being used for chunk_offset there, but the code differs sufficiently, so I don't know if that was simply a bug introduced in the 1.0 branch.22:23
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mal-sobukus: why do you have 0.10 gstreamer still?22:23
kimmolifreedesktop cgit is pita to browse22:23
sobukusmal-: It's what I see in my install of Sailish on the Jolla phone.22:23
mal-sobukus: do you have the latest release of sailfish on your device?22:23
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sobukusYes. 2.0.4.14. Isn't that the latest?22:24
mal-that is22:24
sobukusThere is gst-launch-0.10 … no gst-launch-1.022:25
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sobukusmal-: Are there packages for the current gstreamer for Sailfish?22:26
pdanekCan I ask Android question here?22:26
sobukusAnd would the camera use that?22:26
pdanekSomehow I trust Sailors more in mobile in general. :D22:26
mal-sobukus: there is also gstreamer1.0-plugins-good22:27
sobukusmal-: in openrepos? I don't see it listed in pkcon … so the official version for Sailfish is 0.10, I presume?22:28
mal-sobukus: I have that on sailfish22:28
mal-official version22:28
pdanekProblem: I don't have admin rights on my work laptop to install Google Drive and the web interface sucks when I need to organize a bit more.22:29
pdanekIdea of solution: I'm actually able to connect my phone and see the storage. Could I somehow browse G.Drive folder of my phone through the connected PC?  If yes, how? Obviously I won't find Google Drive folder in MTP connected drive.22:30
mal-sobukus: on my 2.0.4.14 I have 1.4.5-git922:30
sobukuspdanek: I guess that question really is off-topic … (I didn't even use google services when using an Android phone).22:32
sobukusmal-: Did you install that in addition or is it actually part of the system (i.e. used by the Camera and Gallery apps)?22:33
* sobukus confused22:33
mal-hmm, actually that is a community port, that doesn't have gst-plugins-good installed and everything works22:35
mal-it only has gstreamer1.0-plugins-good22:35
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sobukusmal-: Well, could you tell me of your camera app is able to record a video file larger than 4 GiB properly? See you in about 1.5 hours;-)22:38
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kimmolii could test that faster with 60MBit bitrate/4K video22:39
mal-sobukus: I'm just about to get some sleep22:39
kimmolisobukus: what it says for you? pkcon search name good22:39
kimmoliJust pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/ck8XA8Zj22:40
sobukusAh. I searched for gst-plugins22:41
sobukusmal-: Then let the phone record your dreams …22:42
sobukusmal-: Good night, anyway.22:42
mal-it's possible that 1.4.5 is too old, maybe kimmoli can test22:42
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sobukuskimmoli: Yes, thanks, I see it now, too. I got 1.4.5+git9.1-1.6.122:43
mal-the latest version in mer-project git is 1.8.322:43
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kimmolinot testing tonight.22:43
sobukuskimmoli: Is it easy to install the source rpm and build a local patched version of the package?22:43
* sobukus not that experience with rpm distros22:43
kimmolidunno22:44
kimmolii use obs or sdk usually22:44
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sobukusWell, if mer/sailfish is not too exotic, I might just be able to test that patch you found.22:45
sobukusI'm a bit scared of SDK, with all that Qtness.22:45
sobukusI'm used to text files and console.22:45
mal-I can build that new version quickly on obs, not sure if that will work with old gstreamer22:45
sobukusmal-: If it's not troublesome to replace the old one in my install with that one, I might test.22:46
mal-probably next sailfish release will have newer -good package22:49
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sobukusmal-: I don't suppose it will be out this friday … I need to record a live show somehow. And the Jolla would fit the bill technically.22:50
mal-sobukus: it seems all gstreamer packages need to be updated22:50
sobukusI wonder if I have to resort to soldering GPIO buttons to my raspi with it's PiNoIR camera22:51
sobukusmal-: I feared as much22:51
sobukuskimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/151757/camera-recording-broken-video-after-4-gib-file-size-sailfish-os-20414/ … at least it's documented now …22:53
kimmoligood22:54
kimmoliadd your versions of installed gst* gstreamer* packages too?22:55
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mal-sobukus: I'm building those all, we'll see what happens22:55
kimmolilatestbleedingedgiest22:55
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sobukuskimmoli: I didn't change anything there … it's stock Sailfish.22:57
kimmolistill22:59
sobukusk23:02
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* sobukus fails to get at the frikkin' source package23:07
sobukuspkcon search shows it to me … how does one grab that src.rpm?23:08
mal-you don't want to build anything on the device, that would be slow23:12
sobukusmal-: If it needs an hour to build the stuff while I sleep, who cares?23:13
sobukusFirst thing was that I actually just want to look at the source corresponding to what I have installed to see if that bug applies.23:14
sobukusSo far I am really embarrassed that I'm apparently too dumb to figure out how pkcon might install/download that source package it indicates in the search results/23:15
mal-I'm building those packages on obs23:15
sobukusmal-: You're building the up-to-date gstreamer, right?23:15
sobukusI just want to check if that little bugfix would apply. If it is the problem I deal with.23:16
sobukusA whole update of gstreamer could have side-effects, too …23:16
mal-yes23:16
mal-sobukus: the other option is that you stop the recording for a second every hour or so23:17
sobukusmal-: I'm busy during that stage performanc the phone should record on video;-)23:18
sobukusIf I'd have time to stop/restart recording, I could use my stupid "proper" camera that only records up to 25 minutes.23:18
sobukusAha, I see https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:mal:testing/gst-plugins-good .23:19
sobukusI guess figuring out how to install obs packages properly is about as difficult as looking at that source rpm …23:21
mal-installing is trivial, I will tell the commands when that is ready23:23
sobukusmal-: anything specific about the ofono in your repo?23:23
sobukusI still am not sure what kind of issue I have with that one … it managed to loose the connection for good at least two times, needed service restart to phone again.23:23
sobukus(the stock ofono, that is)23:23
mal-nope, just a version I was using to test a patch23:24
kimmolidoes zypper si --download-only work?23:25
sobukusWell, for that you need zypper, right?23:25
kimmoliit is there23:25
sobukusnot on my phone, I presume23:25
kimmoliif not, pkcon install zypper :), as iirc afaik pkcon cant download source pkgs23:25
sobukushm, pkcon can install zypper … isn't there any conflict? I'm a bit cautionous about several tools managing the package repos (what is doing the actualy work behind pkcon without zypper/yum?)23:27
kimmolipkcon is preferred. but it uses zypper as backend23:27
kimmolilibzyp actually23:28
mal-sobukus: ssu ar testing http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/testing/sailfishos_latest_armv7hl/23:28
mal-sobukus: pkcon refresh23:28
kimmolipkcon repo-set-data testing refresh-now true23:29
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kimmolifaster :)23:29
mal-sobukus: pkcon install gstreamer1.0-plugins-good23:29
mal-then check that it updates the other stuff also23:29
* sobukus tries to ignore him trusting random people on the internet with binaries23:29
kimmoliwe are not random23:30
sobukusWell, from you I could try to compare a hand-written signature with the backside of my phone;-)23:30
kimmoliyou can go there in obs to check what it is built from23:30
sobukusotherwise, we are all just a bunch of characters in IRC here23:30
kimmoliindeed http://kimmoli.com/23:31
mal-we are sailfish porters, I have done 11 devices so far and kimmoli has also done porting and many apps23:32
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mal-sobukus: did those install successfully?23:39
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sobukusmal-: I needed extra time because I mis-typed the URL on the TOHKBD223:41
sobukusI did not bother with ssh session yet.23:41
sobukusmal-: it just installed gstreamer1.0-plugins-good, the others are still old23:43
sobukusShould I force updates or try if just the plugin update indeed works?23:43
mal-then install those also23:43
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sobukusOK, gstreamer core and plugins updated; nemo interfaces and droid are still the same23:46
mal-yes, let's leave those23:48
sobukusOK, I still was able to record a video with the camera app.23:48
mal-now try is camera works after reboot of thedevice23:48
sobukusHeh, I wondered if a reboot is due.23:48
sobukusJust to be safe, I presume.23:48
mal-just to be sure23:48
mal-I also suggest testing video playback and various audio features to be sure everything works23:50
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sobukusmal-: Hm, after the reboot, I don't see my freshly recorded videos on the sd card in the gallery … can see them on the card (and play them on my desktop via sshfs over USB).23:56
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sobukusOh, damn. And the camera app just crashed on stopping a video recording.23:57
mal-it's possible that the gstreamer droid is now incompatible, that I cannot build23:58
sobukusThe video is stored fine, just the app crashes on finishing.23:58
sobukusYeah, pictures, too.23:59

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