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r0kk3rz | wow, fedora 25 is using wayland as default display server | 09:54 |
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Yaniel | with custom patches to make nvidia drivers work | 09:55 |
r0kk3rz | yeah, but hopefully other distros will follow suit, and then people like nvidia will target it properly | 09:56 |
Yaniel | apparently there is a collaborative effort going on to specify a new allocator to replace both eglstreams and gbm | 09:57 |
Yaniel | so there's still hope | 09:58 |
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r0kk3rz | wow this gstreamer exploit sounds like a good one | 12:47 |
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r0kk3rz | " If you reworked this exploit to work in the context of the unsandboxed /usr/libexec/tracker-extract process, by fiddling with a few heap offsets etc., youโd have an unpatched drive by download exploit against Chrome + Fedora." | 12:50 |
r0kk3rz | :/ | 12:50 |
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mornfall | sounds like old news to me | 13:08 |
r0kk3rz | 2 days old | 13:10 |
Yaniel | pretty sure I saw that one two weeks ago | 13:13 |
mornfall | I mean, running an unconstrained process that parses everything that lands on your disk sounds like awesome idea. | 13:17 |
mornfall | Presumably, sfos does the same thing. | 13:17 |
mornfall | Who wouldn't. :-) | 13:17 |
r0kk3rz | sfos has tracker, so yeah | 13:18 |
mornfall | we all laughed at outlook express way back when didn't we | 13:18 |
mornfall | all the hardening work undone by a single program playing a rough game :) move fast and break things, wasn't it? | 13:20 |
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the_mgt | but the tracker in sfos is stupid as a can of baked beans, luckily | 18:49 |
the_mgt | so, we probably do not suffer so much from that bug. (wrt to a chat 4,5h ago) | 18:49 |
r0kk3rz | the_mgt: the bug wasnt in tracker though, but gstreamer | 18:58 |
the_mgt | r0kk3rz yes, but the example states, that tracker could be used as a means to exploit the bug | 18:59 |
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the_mgt | and then someone said sfos uses tracker too. I read that... the thing is, tracker in sfos is a lazy donkey and only works when properly whipped and carrotted | 19:00 |
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r0kk3rz | works fine for me :P | 19:02 |
the_mgt | how often do you add new tracks? how many tracks are in the "unkown artist" category? do you issue commands manually on terminal? | 19:06 |
r0kk3rz | not often, i use my own media player so none, and rarely | 19:07 |
the_mgt | I added two albums to the sd card today. maybe 30-40 tracks. took a combination of 3 commands to get them showing properly in media player | 19:09 |
Yaniel | I have long since given up on the media player | 19:10 |
the_mgt | 1. nuke the tracker db. 2. tell the stupid thing to index. 3. kill it so songs are moved out of "unknown artist" category | 19:10 |
r0kk3rz | Yaniel: thats why i wrote my own | 19:12 |
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the_mgt | this is incredibly stupid. linux is only free if your time has no value | 19:12 |
Yaniel | which one is that? | 19:12 |
Lieke | the stock media player works mostly fine for me, it's just missing album art for like half the albums | 19:13 |
the_mgt | following this logic, the buying price for the phone increases everytime i have to do stupid stuff like petting a linux service. | 19:13 |
r0kk3rz | Yaniel: SirenSong, its on open repos, it probably wont suit your needs because its somewhat basic | 19:14 |
Yaniel | ah | 19:15 |
r0kk3rz | i quite selfishly wrote it for my own use case | 19:15 |
Yaniel | yeah I've been using quasarmx | 19:15 |
the_mgt | album art is a luxury good. i just want to be able to actually play music when i add it, Lieke | 19:15 |
Yaniel | it's done most of the things I want it to so far | 19:15 |
Lieke | yeah, that's no problem in my case | 19:15 |
the_mgt | the thing is, there are two bug reports on tjc, i needed to combine both. and one of them was quite old | 19:15 |
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r0kk3rz | i wonder if their combination of tracker + grillo isnt causing half the problems | 19:16 |
r0kk3rz | i use tracker directly, and it works well enough | 19:16 |
the_mgt | well it seems that one bug actually is somehow a fault of tracker. it does not even start to index the added directories on the sdcard. or not fast enough. | 19:18 |
the_mgt | after forcing it to index them, both were added as "unknown". closing media player app, issuing a "tracker-whatsthecommand -k" and starting media player again displays them properly as unique albums | 19:20 |
r0kk3rz | give it time to work | 19:20 |
the_mgt | why? because i use linux and am not allowed to have comfort? | 19:22 |
the_mgt | because i did not buy one of the big players and need to be tortured for that decision? | 19:22 |
r0kk3rz | basically, yes | 19:23 |
the_mgt | look, the thing is, it works instantly, *when* you kick and punch tracker | 19:23 |
the_mgt | i even nuked the whole db completely, so it had to start from scratch. and it finds all albums in like 10 seconds. and if it wasn't stupid as a dead hedgehog on the street, it would have shown them properly as unique and correct albums | 19:24 |
the_mgt | I used tracker on my desktop (ok, that has more horsepower) and it worked like a charm. that it does not work on the phone is what annoys me | 19:25 |
r0kk3rz | yeah its a two step process, first is discovery, then it actually processes the files for metadata | 19:25 |
r0kk3rz | iirc tracker-control will show status on what its doing | 19:26 |
the_mgt | ah, yeah. tracker-control it was. 1. tracker-control -r (to drop the db) 2. tracker-control -es (to start indexing) 3. tracker-control -k (to kill it) | 19:29 |
the_mgt | my guess is, that the metadata extraction is the most faulty part. if you leave it alone, it will find stuff in waves | 19:29 |
the_mgt | starting with the oldest files. at least it seems so to me | 19:30 |
r0kk3rz | yeah possibly, and it will also depend on whether the media player is open most likely | 19:32 |
r0kk3rz | since it parses the tracker output into a thing called grillo, which is its own kinda media metadata model thing | 19:33 |
the_mgt | there is a faw somewhere in that chain | 19:37 |
r0kk3rz | probably, tracker isnt known for being an excellent piece of software | 19:45 |
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abranson | the_mgt, r0kk3rz: i just fixed a big source of missing artist/album metadata and album covers | 21:59 |
abranson | turned out some audio files store their album covers as single frame video streams, and that was confusing the libav extractor | 22:00 |
abranson | but it's fixed now. the trouble is that sfos is about the only thing that uses libav instead of gstreamer as the fallback media extractor, so it's not been kept up to date | 22:01 |
abranson | but tracker's now been upgraded to a more recent version, and it's doing a lot better | 22:02 |
r0kk3rz | abranson: why not using gstreamer then? | 22:03 |
r0kk3rz | its on the device... | 22:03 |
abranson | r0kk3rz: i was told that gstreamer on these sorts of devices used the media hw quite extensively | 22:04 |
r0kk3rz | oh right | 22:04 |
abranson | QtMultimedia etc use a resource policy thing to make sure two processes don't interrupt each other. it's quite a job to add that to tracker apparently | 22:05 |
abranson | plus you don't want your video pausing because tracker finds a new track | 22:05 |
r0kk3rz | aha, yes that makes sense | 22:05 |
abranson | but i might have a look into that - i think the worst bit is that the resource thingy is Qt, and tracker is very very gnome | 22:05 |
abranson | it'd feel dirty putting a QObject into the middle of all that G | 22:05 |
abranson | but seeing as all the media playback is gstreamer, it's a bit weird that the indexing is done with libav. | 22:06 |
abranson | hard to guarantee that you can play what you find | 22:07 |
abranson | but if anyone wants to test the new tracker and tell me about bugs, i'd be very happy | 22:07 |
abranson | carlos has been very nice about accepting my patches upstream too | 22:07 |
abranson | it's all here and very open: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/tracker | 22:08 |
r0kk3rz | abranson: is that somehting i would need to build myself? | 22:09 |
abranson | yeah but it's really easy. just an 'mb2 -s rpm/tracker-libav.spec' build from an sdk | 22:10 |
abranson | the other spec is the rotten gstreamer version | 22:10 |
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r0kk3rz | i'll just build it on obs, just making sure thats what i need to do | 22:14 |
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abranson | r0kk3rz: oh yes, it's probably on there already | 22:41 |
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