#jollamobile log for Sunday, 2017-01-01

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akssriHello!06:07
akssriI was trying to add a sort of hysteresis into the change of page orientation, but I can't seem to find where the transition is actually triggered ?06:08
akssriIs there a QML file which encodes this behaviour ? Is this something that is part Silica UI ? Thanks.06:10
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itsxaoshave you guys seen the latest Turing email?14:19
itsxaosit looks promising actually14:19
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ShadowJKDoes it let you send attachments without consuming RAM until it gets killed and then restarted, looping indefinitely? :D14:25
itsxaosby email i mean newsletter or whatever lol14:26
ShadowJKOh right, I thought you were talking about an app lol14:27
itsxaosnooope14:27
itsxaosyou should check it out14:27
itsxaosturing robotic industries14:27
itsxaosalways making huge promises, highly dubios if they can deliver the half of it14:28
itsxaosbut you know14:28
itsxaosit looks promising14:28
kimmolius11.campaign-archive.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=7ffbdc257d14:29
itsxaoswhat do you think, kimmoli14:30
kimmolithey used safety word "soon"14:31
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Stskeepsi think they have an impressive shop for coming up with brand names for phones14:31
Stskeepsthat much is sure14:31
Stskeeps:P14:31
itsxaosyep14:31
itsxaoshas anyone here actually seen / handled one of their phones in person?#14:32
ShadowJKSo do they do anything else than render closeups of personal electonic device exterior shells?14:32
Stskeepsitsxaos: i've handled one of them, that one was real and good in a fight14:32
itsxaoswell i've seen videos of the dragon phone14:33
itsxaoswhat do you mean good in a fight lol14:33
itsxaossolid brick?14:33
Stskeepsas in nice sharp corners14:35
itsxaosOhhh right14:35
itsxaosyou think they can pull off what they are promising now?14:36
Nicd-they are promising a pretty bog standard android phone, nothing revolutional. it's not out of reach14:40
ShadowJKIn that article, they promise a phone "soon", they're working on voice authentication (although don't say whether that will be included in the phone or not), and they're doing things to not have "delays this year". So I guess if they're right on schedule all year for something happening next year, they can have a massive delay next year and still be good :D14:40
itsxaoshaha14:41
itsxaosNicd- they are also promising to make BOTH an android and sailfish version though14:42
Nicd-but sailfish version will come "later"14:42
itsxaostrue i guess14:42
Nicd-and adapting sailfish is not an infeasible task14:42
Nicd-there's no fuel cell in that phone :P14:42
itsxaoslol14:42
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itsxaosim kinda glad they are getting more realistic in their promises14:43
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kimmolithey need to get something out14:45
ShadowJKI have absolutely no idea whether there will be fuel cells in phones, or if there have been fuel cells in phones.. But, the day I can buy a miniature fuel cell on ebay/aliexpress/alibaba, I might believe that a nameless chinese ODM would build one into a phone. ;-)14:45
kimmolieven without 32 cores or fuelcell14:45
Nicd-ShadowJK: and it would get certified absolutely nowhere... except maybe china :D14:46
itsxaosi dont even understand the appeal of fuel cells in smartphones14:47
itsxaoshow do you even recharge that14:47
ShadowJKHowever, regardless if fuel cell phones exist or not, I bet that there will be ethanol based fuel cell "refills" sold at vending machines in russia.14:47
itsxaosyou need to buy refills?14:47
Nicd-itsxaos: at the local shell :D14:47
kimmoliwill they change the name from turing robotics to turing life to be able to sell in califomia?14:47
itsxaoshow much would that cost? and last? i cant imagine that could be economical14:48
ShadowJKitsxaos, Yeah exactly..14:49
ShadowJKIt's an interesting topic actually, what's the energy and power density of a fuel cell?14:50
ShadowJKI vaguely remember in the early 2000s Nokia allegedly had a methanol based prototype, which wasn't able to power the phone, but it recharged a small battery when the phone was in standby14:51
ShadowJKAnd that was a feature phone, mind... not today's power hungry smartphones14:52
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ShadowJKYeah, all the ones on ebay etc are brick-sized and do give enough power to lazily  charge a phone... "Recharge" through expensive recharge stations (sold separately) that split distilled water into hydrogen and oxygen...15:07
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ShadowJKThe only advantage that it's "storable"... well as far as hydrogen can be stored15:08
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RavenIIHello All, my cousin recently gave me a tablet which came with Android 5.0, so I did some research and found out it's the same tablet that as the Jolla tablet...so I found the files to flash it and I did...but when it boots, it just goes to a black screen...17:49
RavenIIafter the Jolla splash screen...any one have the same issue here?17:49
StskeepsRavenII: there's no such thing as 'same tablet', jolla's has a special display chip + display17:50
StskeepsRavenII: so the jolla tablet image likely won't work17:50
RavenIIAh, that explains that....17:50
Stskeepsyou may very well have bricked it if you're unlucky17:50
RavenIINah, it's not bricked...I could still get into fastboot, recovery, etc.17:51
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RavenIIThe board was labled "Hero8_something" on the inside, that should've been the first sign for me...17:52
Stskeepswell, close enough but display chip applies17:55
RavenIIEh, I'll experiment and see what I could find out...it seems that the anzhen4_mrd8 is pretty popular.17:56
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juhajWhat's the current status of FB chat integration? Guessing from a lot of conflicting info on the web is "unsupported"?19:16
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Nicd-juhaj: unsupported19:44
juhajNicd-: Also uninstallable, I found:19:47
juhajFatal error: haze-accounts-extensions-facebookmessenger-0.4-1.noarch requires purple-facebook = 1, but this requirement cannot be provided19:48
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lpotter\0/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2016/12/31/iphone-7-plus-galaxy-s7-edge-jolla-smartphone-of-the-year/#3b39fb886d1f20:15
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TMavicaOnly in Finland, but not others21:26
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