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temmi_hooArmadill0: chatham house rules prevent participants to speak about other participants or content08:50
temmi_hooas part of disobey.fi organism i invite you to take part next year08:50
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pp_chatham says content is fine to talk about but not who said what ;)08:53
temmi_hoowas really cyberpunk, dark room, tables full of hackers feverishly cracking in hostile network, said network traffic visualised on a large projection ball surface in real time, good talks of interesting security issues such as that the IoOPT is securitywise comparable to telnet/rlogin period of internet security08:53
temmi_hoodepends on the content, parts of it have disclosure agreements - i'm not aware of the jolla-related topics at all but i was closely following the dissection of car spying device from minister berner and any details cannot really be spoken of as per agreement with vendor08:54
temmi_hoothey provided us with devices and we cracked them and provided a report08:55
temmi_hoohttps://twitter.com/leaviljanen/status/819981637823954945 <-- that with demoscene video stuff with loads of laserbeam particles flying around08:56
locusfalso no announcer stuff was good08:57
locusfjust flashing lights and big bass with readout on screen about the next speaker and topic08:58
Stskeepsyeah, i personally hate announcers08:58
Stskeepswaste of time and personell08:58
locusfyeah08:58
r0kk3rzinteresting, so you're not supposed to talk about this disobey thing08:59
r0kk3rzso its like fight club for hackers08:59
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temmi_hoor0kk3rz: well kind of :) some people don't want their presence to be advertised09:54
temmi_hoomost of the content is okay to publish but then again there's the discussion on what's content09:55
r0kk3rzyeah i understand, particularly because computer security research can have dubious legality09:56
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Helletemmi_hoo: I wish more hackers would run meetings under chatham house rules11:00
Hellemakes things a bit more flexible11:00
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larstiqStskeeps: announcers in what context?11:20
Stskeepslarstiq: as in people announcing who you are etc before a speec11:20
Stskeepsh11:20
Stskeepsit's usually cringeworthh11:20
Stskeepsy11:20
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larstiqStskeeps: their jobs are usually fairly important imo, in academic contexts11:21
larstiq(since that also includes speaker-wrangling, educating on the audience, etc)11:21
r0kk3rzlarstiq: the info is usually redundant though11:22
temmi_hooin nonacademic context the speaker is supposed to intruduce themselves11:22
temmi_hooin academic circles the speakers very often just start at middle of the beef so having SOMEONE at least mention their name and affiliation and generic field of study helps a bit11:23
larstiqr0kk3rz: seems to me there is quite some variance, so I'd prefer to call out which specific behaviours are good/a waste11:24
* larstiq shrugs11:24
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r0kk3rzat conferences you're usually only in the room because you know what the talk is vaguely going to be about11:25
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r0kk3rzall you need to know is if you're in the right place, which you can see on the screen11:26
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Stskeepsr0kk3rz: or because you found a power socket11:29
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parentheticallyIs there a way to update my factory resetted Jolla phone to the latest OS version without having to go through all updates one by one?12:07
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pp_flash newer factory image, voiding warranty :P It's not actually all updates, only like 5ish12:09
parentheticallypp_: if it's only five then I'll manage! I'll flash next time. Warranty is loooong gone by now :')12:11
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pp_with the one that's floating around you get to start with 1.0.8 instead of 1.0.0 (-> 1.0.4 -> 1.0.8 IIRC)12:16
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schoppenhauerhi. is there a vnc-server or something similar for jolla phone? (so I can access my phone from my PC screen)23:21
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