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Tofeoooh update :)15:07
tillbut the repos are currently getting fixed, so not out yet15:08
Tofe:) happy anyway15:09
tillyes, definitly :)15:10
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Tofeok, download nearly finished :p15:50
the_mgtyay15:55
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the_mgthm, 270mb is smaller than I thought16:15
Tofefor me it is currently rebooting, it just finished upgrading16:15
Tofe... and it worked :)16:16
Tofethanks guys, great work16:16
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the_mgtdownloading stalls...16:28
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Tofeah, picross game is broken16:54
Tofethe_mgt: maybe I took the last copy? ;)16:55
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Tofehttps://github.com/Baspar/harbour-picross/pull/4 no way I couldn't play this game when going to work17:56
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the_mgtsuffering the fate of the early adopter18:03
Tofeyes, lots & lots of suffering :)18:04
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Marzanna[m]They made text selection in browser possible? Can't believe!18:44
phlixijust  10 seconds ago i read "and text selection in browser." (update https://together.jolla.com/question/153631/release-notes-210iijoki/ )18:48
phlixiwow18:48
phlixiFINALLY18:48
phlixii hope this enables copy :-)18:49
phlixiand yeah, i am the grumpy one, once i install the update, i will try to copy something from an email and i bet it will not work (hey, get a password or something similar via email to paste it in browser or similar, ...for sure something that has never been done before, no usecase, no implementation...)18:51
Marzanna[m]Copying from browser and email client was most desirable feature for me since I got my first jolla phone.18:53
phlixiit is actually the second most voted item on tjc (overall!)18:53
phlixiright behind offline nav or such thing18:53
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Tofewell, I have good news and bad news18:54
the_mgtwho uses those?18:54
phlixihttps://together.jolla.com/question/832/system-wide-clipboard-copy-paste-capability/18:55
Marzanna[m]Now I need proper "Share" function.18:55
Tofephlixi, Marzanna[m]: you can select & copy alright on browser18:56
Tofethat's the good news18:56
phlixilet me guess Tofe, the good one is it is possible to select and copy from browser18:56
Tofephlixi: I'll let you guess the rest then :)18:57
phlixiand the bad one is probably no selection in mails (i kind of expected that, )18:57
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Tofeexactly18:57
Tofethe select & copy doesn't seem to be implemented at the level of the webview component, but at the app level for the browser18:57
phlixii am quite happy (after beeing angry about it at first) that this finally comes at all, at least in the browser18:57
phlixii gave up hope ong ago18:58
phlixiafter more than 3 years, the second highest voted (of all times) tjc item, got implemented...18:59
TofeI'm just surprised they didn't do it at the component level; the hardest is probably to design the text selection, and I guess they did that inside the webview18:59
phlixi2013-12-28, Jolla Official: "We are going to implement it gradually app-by-app."19:01
phlixinow, 2017 its in the most important app, the browser19:01
phlixii guess its in the mail app aprox in 2020, maybe 202219:01
phlixi(i hope sailfish is still a thing then)19:02
Tofe:p19:02
the_mgtthey'll implement it after propper mtp connection to macos19:06
phlixithere is nothing i care less about than mtp or mac, or mtp on mac :D19:06
phlixi...and i think there are plenty of workarounds thata re not workarounds, but propper solutions (even way better)19:07
the_mgtyay, buying a phone with a well designed OS19:07
phlixihowever, there is no workaround for copying a password you got via email19:07
the_mgtwhoever sends you passwords via email should be stabbed in the face with a buick19:08
the_mgtbut I guess a proper basement-dweller linux nerd has some "easy" workaround for totally encrypted mail on his jolla ;)19:09
phlixifor example i never ever plug in a cable into my jollas for something different than charging. never.19:09
kimmolithere is workaround for copy from email19:09
phlixiforward, edit... there was something i dont remember right know where this does not work19:10
phlixi...copy files or whatever? there is wifi for that (and yes, i kow there are cases where you do not want to copy everything wireless...)19:12
Liekeso, does openvpn work for anyone? i just manage to crash the settings app19:12
tilli would rather like a text mode for email19:12
phlixiLieke there is an openvpn thing right on top of tjc https://together.jolla.com/question/156302/bugtest-openvpn-stuff-with-2109/19:13
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the_mgtI still do not understand why  should wear a cilice with joy (aka apply workarounds) just because i am a linux user, phlixi19:13
tillLieke it's working for me19:13
phlixitill i made a tjc for that years ago and gave up... i guess it wont come. but to be fair since then at elast the mailapp got updated to no longer load images withoutasking and similar stuff19:13
the_mgtI am able to use sshfs with macfusion. but my time has value and I hate all these time consuming "there is an easy workaround" things19:14
tillyes and i upvoted it :)19:14
tadzikermagherd, qml live coding19:14
tadzikcan't wait to see it :)19:15
tillshould it not be simply done by a patch?19:15
tillor rather be possible?19:15
phlixifor me it would be an ugly work around to use a cable to access the phone... and i know what you mean... buti think you have to compromise. jolla has limited resources... thats the price you have to pay if you want to use sailfish ...rough edges everywhere19:16
tadzikpatch?19:16
the_mgtphlixi itunes syncs my ios devices via wifi without trouble19:16
the_mgtbut using a cable and an industry standard is too much for my jolla...19:17
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the_mgtanyway, I am watching tv now19:18
phlixitadzik i asume patch, as in patchmanager https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patchmanager-2019:18
tilla patch for the mail client which replaces the html-view with a text view19:19
tadzikah, I was thinking of the livecoding bit19:20
tadzikand speaking of which... how do you use it?19:20
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phlixibesides all the harsh words... i am happy there is progress :-) ...and especially looking forward to the mwc stuff :-)19:49
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phlixi(i hope its not a watch *g*)19:51
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phlixiwhat is "Android 6 BSP" Sami Pienimäki is talking about in the recent blog post? ( https://blog.jolla.com/letter-jolla-ceo/ )20:14
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kimmolihadk20:16
phlixiok, that makes sense20:17
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the_mgthm, maps app vanished again20:53
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pdanekhttps://blog.jolla.com/letter-jolla-ceo/20:55
mornfalloh the url! so much suspense20:58
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MoritzJTHello... anyone with a Jolla C stuck on upgrade too? like 45%23:39
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