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Marzanna[m]So, is it possible to enable additional LTE bands on AquaFish? Searched on this topic but couldn't find any success stories. :(18:48
r0kk3rzafaik nobody has succeeded on that mission18:50
Marzanna[m]I also searched for a solution for enabling LTE bands on OPO but again: no success stories.18:53
Marzanna[m]Found some links to maemo.su forum, but it is down :(18:54
tbrbands are handled by modem and its configs which are under tight control18:55
tbrI wouldn't be surprised if qualcomm requires signed configs, not just signed modem firmware.18:56
tbrcf. the Nexus4, where the device is perfectly capable of LTE and initial firmware shipped with it, but then it was removed as it failed some part of certification. The locking was in the modem firmware.18:57
Marzanna[m]I suppose it is hardware limitation, right?18:57
Marzanna[m]There is info on the forums that AquaFish hardware differs from JollaC18:58
tbrif the antennas are different, then also performance would be likely worse18:59
tbrif the SoCs are otherwise identical, then I'd try to see if the radio config and or firmware from the C works on the AF19:00
Marzanna[m]I wonder why 4G connection on my AquaFish was unstable but stabilized for few month and    become unstable again few days ago. Probably it doesn't have anything with LTE bands. 4G connection works sometimes.19:02
tbrthat can be your mobile network operator. LTE networks are not static, they actually "live" in some ways19:03
r0kk3rzMarzanna[m]: probably some overlap in bands where you are19:03
tbre.g. the cells "breathe" depending on network load. If you are on the outer range of the network, then you can easily loose connection if it breathes in. If it is that, then you should notice patterns due to people movement. Working hours vs. evenings and weekends.19:05
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p2-mateMarzanna[m]: I would assume you would need to change the RF frontends for that19:07
Marzanna[m]p2-mate: what do you mean? make changes to hardware?19:09
p2-mateyeah19:09
tbrif there are hardware filters or tuning networks, then no chance19:09
p2-mateunless you know what you're doing19:10
Marzanna[m]Oh, I'm not going to hack my phone this way.19:10
Marzanna[m]:)19:10
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p2-mateit could very well be that Jolla C and AquaFish use the same PCB with slightly different components mounted for different RF configurations19:11
p2-matesomeone with access to the schematics could give some insight here :)19:11
tbrcost wise it would make sense to keep the hardware as similar as possible. But there might be reasons, like antenna configuration, that necessitate changes.19:14
tbrWithout close inspection or documentation, impossible to know.19:14
Marzanna[m]I remember, someone (probably coderus?) told that it was possible to transform AquaFish to JollaC.19:18
Marzanna[m]But I can't find anything :(19:18
tbrwell, software user land, sure19:18
p2-matetbr: indeed.19:18
p2-matewell, the sw user land is largely the same no?19:20
Marzanna[m]Oh, found it. But it doesn't unlock LTE bands :/19:21
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tbrp2-mate: yes, it's just a couple of differentiation packages and configs. By editing something somewhere you end up with a device that thinks it's a Jolla C, but the modem is unfazed by that.19:26
p2-mateyeah, the modem is a world on its own ofcourse19:26
p2-mateso you would have a jolla C with india frequency support :)19:28
tbra lot of people who imported an AF did that19:28
p2-mateah ok19:28
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tbrthere are detailed instructions on TJC19:28
p2-mateI haven't done that19:28
p2-mateaha19:28
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p2-mateuseful to know19:28
r0kk3rzMarzanna[m]: maybe keep an eye out for this mysterious new community device from jolla19:29
r0kk3rzthat will have euro bands19:29
Jopeso, where's the info on that device :-)19:30
Jopeor is it all rumours19:30
r0kk3rztheres been hints from jolla19:31
r0kk3rzbut nothing concrete19:31
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p2-mateiirc there was a plan to have official sailfish OS on the fairphone 2, but sofar I don't think that has materialized?19:31
r0kk3rzthats up to FP19:32
coderusMarzanna[m]: https://together.jolla.com/question/148893/how-to-make-aqua-fish-to-think-its-jolla-c-not-modem/19:44
Marzanna[m]coderus: yes I googled it, but it doesn't solve my problem with bands19:50
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coderusintex have different hardware modem and antennas, you cant change bands19:51
paulvtcoderus: I'm actually just trying that... but the questions don't find the suggested answers19:52
paulvtfor example, first it says, type 1, then y, then enter19:52
paulvtsorry, type 1 enter, then y, enter... but it is asking me twice for a solution, so... hmm19:52
coderusyou just read output and type y when asked, else type 1 when it ask to choose, easy19:52
coderusif you think it's so hard to read prompt and decide write factory image and do reset, then you will have Jolla C software forever.19:53
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paulvtit keeps asking me the seem things, so it's not resolving19:55
paulvtthe same*20:00
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paulvtmaybe the upgrade to 2.0.5.4 made things different20:06
paulvtthe AquaFish doesn't read btrfs SD cards, right? (it seems like that)20:06
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