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tiwakeany idea when Xperia X is coming with sailfishOS?04:39
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taaemtiwake: I heard end of Q206:01
tiwaketaaem: alright, guess I'll wait a bit longer06:02
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tiwaketaaem: my intex aquafish screen died, trying to decide what I want to do, using my older nexus 5 again06:07
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r0kk3rztiwake: unfortunately we dont know if you'll be able to install on a xperia x that comes with android or not08:38
r0kk3rzbut they havent ruled that out08:38
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tbrtiwake, r0kk3rz: I guess it will be hard to prevent an unlocked Xperia X from working with SailfishOS. Notwithstanding official Jolla distribution process decisions for that device.08:49
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r0kk3rzthis is true08:53
r0kk3rzat any rate, i would expect the adaptation to be open and so you can at least roll your own08:54
r0kk3rzand have it work adequately08:54
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tillto bad the xperia x is not waterproof anymore...09:17
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coderusyeah underwater sailfish os would be insane...09:56
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Tofecoderus: :)10:13
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tiwakelol12:12
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till2.1.0.10 is available12:37
Tofeah yes, is it just the end of the EA period for 2.1.0.9 ?12:39
tillaccording to tjc: "2017-03-23: 2.1.0.10 Early access release for Jolla 1, C and Tablet. Fixes for instance for camera ticking and CalDAV sync issues."12:39
tillnormally the EA period ends with the release of the same version to all users12:42
Tofetill: and sometimes it ends with the release of the littles fixes done on the EA release12:44
TofeAnyway, update done. Still no reset since dec 2013 on my side, well done guys :p12:47
r0kk3rzi hope the tick is gone for good12:50
ppoooh, calendar fixes :D12:51
ppI was just trying to figure out why mine wasn't syncing properly :D12:51
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tillupdate went fine here as well13:13
ppcalendar still broken :P13:14
ppoh wait, now it synced13:14
till:D13:14
pp(running random stuff on the command line trying to get debug output)13:14
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abransonTofe: that's the talk of champions ;)13:28
r0kk3rzhmm, no ticking yet13:31
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oozboozjust curious, with all these NSA spying hysteria in US, when rooting a phone with a custom rom, does it disable all "unannounced" features or are they implemented in HW?16:18
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r0kk3rzoozbooz: baseband remains unaltered16:21
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r0kk3rzoozbooz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband_processor16:21
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FireFlyOf course, if the features are supposed to be hidden/covert, who knows if they're implemented in software or hardware :P16:36
FireFlyI mean, not knowing is kind of the point16:36
FireFlyrelatedly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side-channel_attack16:36
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oozboozlooks like Baseband cpu is a known place for vulnerabilities to hide...16:48
oozboozanyone attempted to run Open Source code on the baseband/16:48
oozbooz?16:48
Nicd-is that possible?16:49
Nicd-I'm not aware of any open modems16:49
SQUelcherWasn't there a Motorola Dumbphone?16:50
r0kk3rzpossible? sure, hard? definitely16:50
SQUelcherhttps://osmocom.org/projects/baseband/wiki/Phones16:51
r0kk3rzoozbooz: anyway, if you're worried about government sponsored agencies, dont own a mobile phone of any type16:51
oozboozr0kk3rz, I realized that... I just wanted a bit educational moment to understand how much rom-ing phone blocking the frivolous access16:52
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r0kk3rzoozbooz: sure, rom-ing might help, obviously it depends on the particulars of who / what / where16:53
r0kk3rzwhich dispite all the leaks, nobody really knows for sure what those wiley bastards are up to16:54
oozboozI am sure G-people and other agencies planted slew of bugs in all layers: OS, apps, Baseband... depending on their financial sources16:54
oozboozcouple years ago articles surfaced about CIA+ hacking PC using BIOS chip16:55
oozboozover raido within 1 mile16:55
r0kk3rzbut also remember, the ROMs arent always distributed in the most secure of fashions, and that seems like something easily targetting by a government agency16:56
r0kk3rzso damned if you do, damned if you dont16:56
oozboozfunny, I was thinking yesterday ... that if I work for G-agencies in IT, I would "sponsor" some of the most popular FOSS roms16:56
r0kk3rzoozbooz: http://ftp.belnet.be/FOSDEM/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm16:57
r0kk3rza thought experiment about how some agency could subvert FOSS communities16:57
HelleBaseband CPUs run full blown operating systems, if I where to hide a national security grade spyware anywhere17:22
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Helledoesn't help that there is less diversity of those17:22
HelleBut we have ones that run a full copy of Linux on the baseband CPU (with a bunch of GPL violations along the way)17:22
FireFlyHeh17:33
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attahCracked my camera lens today, update for clicking autofocus arrives... The universe must hate me :)20:14
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attahtiwake: in theory i could hook you up with a Aqua Fish display20:21
attahor an entire phone... trying to understand if i can cannibalize the camera lens or not to my C20:21
r0kk3rzattah: just the front glass?20:30
attahwell.. i have the entire thing and no real need for it.. but i'll hang on to the battery and likely the camera lens20:31
attahnow that we are expecting Sonys to arrive soon-ish i'll gamble not having the display for myself20:31
attahand i already tried a few magics with the modem as an added bonus20:32
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