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corecomicIs there a way to unlock the Jolla phone over ssh? Touch input is broken on my device and I'm not able to input the numbers 1,2,3 which would be needed to unlock the device17:02
corecomicI've the developer mode enabled and can connect with ssh over the wifi17:03
r0kk3rzif touch is broken, what would you do with it anyway?17:04
corecomicalternatively a way to rotate the lock screen would also help so the numbers are on a different place on the screen where touch is working17:04
corecomicit's only a certain part of the screen where it's not working, so still usable for most stuff17:05
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r0kk3rzah, tricky17:06
corecomicit was a bit tricky to hit some spots for a while now, but worked always. today no way to unlock it17:08
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corecomicshould be possible to do something over ssh I'm hoping, can't find any information though17:10
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corecomicok found it: '/usr/lib/qt5/plugins/devicelock/encpartition --clear-code MY_CODE' disables the lock code17:25
corecomicit's time for the sony devices with sailfish to show up :)17:28
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sebsebsebhi18:12
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Nicd-corecomic: want to buy my Jolla 1 with TOHKBD? :)18:37
* SQUelcher sold both his TOHKBD to someone in Hong Kong18:42
corecomicNicd-: not really, I'm looking for good HW with a good OS :D thx for the offer though18:47
Nicd-guess it's too late for it18:47
sebsebsebcorecomic: uh salifhs os is a good os18:48
sebsebsebcorecomic: and you could buy from India  someting such as the Intex Aquafish for nicer hardwrae18:48
corecomicyeah but Jolla 1 is not good HW :D18:48
sebsebsebor watch out for new offical jolla sales18:48
sebsebsebwith new hardware18:48
sebsebsebcorecomic: yeah the first Jolla isn't that nice for hardware true18:48
sebsebsebbut  other phones with salifish os have gone on sale since with nicer hardware18:49
corecomicI'm waiting for the sony phones with sailfish18:49
sebsebsebcorecomic: yeah any idea when thatwill be?18:49
corecomicno idea, soon probably :D18:49
* sebsebseb is thinking about replaceing as main phone the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Edition, but to what?18:50
* sebsebseb has lost a S3 Mini since moseone was messing with stuff, nhopefully in the room, not trown out, but its not looking so hopeful this time, thats a old phone18:50
sebsebsebI have a Jolla18:50
sebsebsebbut  going to that from the above mentioend phone as a main phone,  for hardware would be a downgrade really, despirete the other one looking llike an iphone18:50
sebsebsebI have a FIrefox OS  phone but I don't use that as an atsual phone. I also have a Samsuing Tizen Z1 but again I don't use that as an actsual phone.   I have a cheap Android phone as well18:51
sebsebseband a second hand one even, but don't use thAT18:51
corecomicI've a bq ubuntu phone as well, doesn't look like ubuntu on phones is going to happen...18:51
sebsebseband I have the bq aqura 4.5 as well18:51
sebsebsebbut I keep that on a old version of ubuntu ouch anyway18:51
sebsebsebsince had thought had lost etc and not really using18:51
corecomicand a Samsung Z3 I've also :)18:51
sebsebseband my Ubuntu tablet the HD is away for repair, but certian hardware compoenents connected together, so not so simple18:52
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sebsebsebcorecomic: I had a choice,  Z1,  Z3 (really the second phone), or Z2, but still bought the Z118:52
sebsebsebTizen yeah18:53
sebsebsebcorecomic: MX 4 and BQ 4.5  Ubuntu's have both  pretty much had it for updates18:53
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sebsebsebCanonical will soon drop all support for Ubuntu Touch, and for the Ubports fork,  the plan was only to support those with security updates really18:53
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sebsebsebcorecomic: really Salifish OS can do a load more t han both ubuntu touch and probably android even18:54
sebsebsebcan even run most of the android apps and well enough18:54
corecomicyeah, it's still a pity there are not more alternatives18:55
sebsebsebcorecomic: yeah all Linux based alternaties dead now really in the senese of going market share real market share possibly18:55
sebsebsebexcept for Salifish OS now18:55
sebsebseband Tizen kind of to, if you include that18:55
sebsebsebbut thats like Samsungs Android, so not much good, apparnatly samsung were having issues with security holes too18:56
sebsebsebnot sure how to patch things etc18:56
sebsebsebcorecomic: so you think Jolla 1 has bad hardware, but that otherwise Salifhs OS is nice :)?18:56
corecomicbut Tizen not looking so good for now in my experience also from a usability point of view18:58
corecomicyeah sailfish os is nice and definitely has the most potential from the current linux based variants18:58
corecomicstill lacking in some areas but pretty good overall18:58
sebsebsebwell all the other LINUX based ones are dead really see above18:59
sebsebsebso that leaves two, Salifsh OS and Tizen18:59
corecomicthere sailfish clearly wins for me :)18:59
corecomicgood HW with proper sailfish support is what I want really19:01
corecomicstill missing the N9 :D19:01
sebsebsebcorecomic: some community ports to19:03
sebsebsebcorecomic: so you thin the jolla hardware is to old?19:12
sebsebseband looks old etc ?19:12
sebsebsebjolla  119:12
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corecomicsebsebseb: it actually was never really good to start with: camera is bad, display completely unusable outside.., I could go on...19:20
corecomicalso don't like the form factor, feels too big and clunky19:20
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corecomicwas just the only alternative to an android phone or iphone and basically still is19:21
corecomicwhich is kinda sad19:21
r0kk3rzbig? you'll be dissapointed with the xperia x then :)19:23
corecomicI know, the compact is ok though19:25
r0kk3rzyeah, but the official port is for the X, not the compact19:26
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corecomiconly the X? is that so, I was thinking they'll support more devices19:27
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sebsebsebcorecomic: do you trust a phone directly from India ?19:36
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sebsebsebr0kk3rz: seems one was on sale at american amazon sony x with salifihs os, just been googleing, but what about uk sale :d ?19:40
corecomicsebsebseb: the aquafish? you have one? the HW seems not that much better than jolla 119:43
sebsebsebcorecomic: no don't have one,  got onto a europan thread with people who do19:44
sebsebsebI would like one in a wya19:44
sebsebsebway19:44
r0kk3rzsebsebseb: wat. nothing has been sold yet afaik19:44
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r0kk3rzcorecomic: the aquafish is better in some ways, worse in others, its a cheap device really19:45
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: oh thats a android link19:45
sebsebsebthe sony phone is probably better19:45
sebsebsebbut thats not out yet19:45
r0kk3rzbetter, by like a million19:45
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: corecomic seems some people had issues trying to import the inttex aquafish  salifshos to europe going by a link I got on19:45
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: you mean its way better? or will be the sony ?19:46
r0kk3rzthe sony of course19:46
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: will it come pre installed19:48
sebsebsebjust reading a link now they hope a community rom by end of june 201719:49
sebsebsebhttp://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/01/jollas-sailfish-os-is-coming-to-a-sony-xperia-phone-near-you/19:49
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sebsebsebcorecomic: r0kk3rz ok seen a video, but having a sony xperia would be like other people :d except the os would be differnet from most19:58
r0kk3rzsorry it doesnt hit your hipster buttons20:00
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: he h20:02
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: well its nice haing something diffenret to most20:02
sebsebsebbut apparnatly sony phones are way better than people give them credit etc20:02
sebsebsebits a samsung world20:03
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sebsebsebprobably why sony have come on board with salifish as well20:03
sebsebsebI would want something with a nice os :)20:03
sebsebsebLinux based20:03
sebsebseband  the above mentioend ubuntu touch meizu mx 4, looks like a iphone so uhmm20:03
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louisdkDoes anyone know if I'll be able to buy an Xperia X preloaded with SailfishOS or if I should buy a 2nd phone?21:29
phlixilouisdk: for now, wait21:29
phliximore to be announced "end of q2"21:29
louisdkphlixi: hard to wait when I got a good offer on an Xperia X :)21:30
phlixiits a gamble21:30
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louisdkphlixi: it'll just wait then :)21:32
phlixii ordered one21:32
phlixiif it will be avail only preflashed, well ill sell it and order the preflashed one21:33
phlixiout of curiosity, what do you consider a good offer?21:33
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louisdkphlixi: 240€ in mint condition at a 2nd hand reseller shop. Full warranty and still cheaper than a private seller.21:37
* louisdk lives in Denmark. Prices might be slightly higher compared to the rest of EU.21:38
phlixii got one from ebay (de) for 160€ but with some slight scratches. none one the display though21:39
phlixiive seen several "mint condition" from 200 to 220, and of course above21:39
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louisdkLet's wait and see. The price might be even lower in a months time or so :) My dream device is still a Xperia XZ(s) :)21:41
phlixiif it will be possible to download sfos for xperia x for free then ill expect at little increase in price of those on ebay and such21:42
phlixisince there are not so many of them21:42
phlixibut ofc i might be wrong21:43
phlixiand for sure not suitable for making money :D21:43
phlixii just thought, well, i got this nice offer, ill take it.21:43
phlixiand if i sell it in 2 months again, even with a loss, well, i dont care that much^^21:44
louisdkunderstandable :)21:44
phlixi...especially since there are not so many offers...21:45
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