#jollamobile log for Wednesday, 2018-03-14

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inte[m]good morning04:30
inte[m]Did anyone order the gemini pda and are the first devices actually shipping already?04:30
inte[m]indigogo page schedules shipment start at nov1704:31
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r0kk3rzyeah but what hardware kickstarter ever delivers on time09:19
r0kk3rzpurism have only just started talking with suppliers and want to deliver by january next year, which is hilarious09:19
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abransonr0kk3rz: where's their SoC coming from? is it NXP? I saw yesterday that qcom were looking to buy them09:32
r0kk3rzi thought qcom already bought nxp09:32
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r0kk3rzbut yes nxp do the freescale imx6/8 chips09:32
abransonmaybe. it's all up in the air in the SoC business now09:32
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r0kk3rzabranson: been looking at the new gstreamer stuff yet?09:33
abransonno, not yet. got a camera to fix first. how have you been getting on?09:34
r0kk3rzgoodish, i wonder whether my camera hal is a bit flakey which isnt helping me :)09:34
r0kk3rzso i should probably set up an audio call which might just work09:35
abransonapparently that nxp/qcom deal hasn't gone through yet. it's been up and down for a couple of years09:36
abransonbut now trump said no to broadcom, it might change09:36
abransonand intel want to buy broadcom...09:36
r0kk3rzyeah well, just imagine a qcom + brcm + nxp behemoth...09:37
abransonand imagine if intel owned it all :(09:37
r0kk3rzmeltdowns for everyone!09:38
r0kk3rzyou get a meltdown, and you get a meltdown09:38
abransonheh09:39
mornfallcf. amdflaws.com or something :p09:39
mornfallyou don't want to know how bad the qcom soc's are on bugs, either (luckily, they get obsoleted before you are done shipping your product, so who cares)09:40
r0kk3rzim fairly certain that we will see a lot of processor bugs being reported by all vendors09:40
mornfallit's a race to the bottom (incidentally started in the intel vs arm war, afaik)09:41
mornfallvalidation is expensive, and what's worse, it takes time09:42
mornfallnobody ain't got time for that09:42
r0kk3rzim not even sure its that, its the battle for performance09:42
r0kk3rzwe hit clock speed limits years ago, we're at process shrink limits now09:43
mornfallthere's very little competition on performance09:43
mornfalllast time it was relevant was when amd64 came out09:44
mornfallsoon after, intel put a safe distance between itself and everyone else09:44
mornfalland the phone market basically stopped caring, so it's not even arm vs arm competition09:45
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mornfall(i also guess tablets don't even show up on cpu vendor radars)09:47
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hahlo /names10:21
hahloups10:21
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