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sledgesPSA: Sailfish OS Community collaboration @ #mer-meeting in 10mins07:49
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linuxfriendhi all09:37
flypiglinuxfriend, greetings :)09:41
linuxfriendi haven't got a smartphone yet because i waited and observed the market if there is a device with open adress maps so i can make my own bootloader, initialize the hardware and so on. If i choose sony xperia x with sailfish os - will this be possible?09:42
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r0kk3rznot as such, your choices are fastboot and fastboot09:43
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r0kk3rzthat said, fastboot doesnt really do that much and the rest is left up to the operating system to handle initialising most hardware bits09:44
linuxfriendok, then i can start from the reset vector?09:44
linuxfriendone moment, i got a call...09:44
linuxfriendfastboot is a open source bootloader which i can edit?09:45
r0kk3rzi have no idea actually, maybe09:46
r0kk3rzits a standard androidy thing09:46
linuxfriendthank you anyway! :-)09:46
abransonlinuxfriend: you can replace the bootloader on the xperia when you unlock it09:46
abransonbut whether or not that means you can remove fastboot, I don't know.09:47
linuxfriendthat should be possible, unlocking it09:47
abransonit might only unlock whatever fastboot calls09:47
linuxfriendthe question is if i find all adresses, adress maps, dokumentation i need09:47
abransonmaybe ask in the sailfishos-porters channel?09:47
abransonthey know more about the internals of these things09:48
r0kk3rzlinuxfriend: as a reference, this is the initramfs we use in sailfish https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot09:48
linuxfriendok! the channel name is #sailfishos-porters?09:48
r0kk3rzlinuxfriend: documentation is hard to come by, companies keep a lot of the inner workings under NDA09:49
linuxfriendthat's exactliy the reason why i didn't buy yet a smartphone09:49
r0kk3rzlinuxfriend: theres no BIOS on these things, so bootloader doesnt really init hardware like a normal pc would09:49
linuxfriendof course not, i want to make mini-bootloaders to make some experiments09:51
linuxfriendhmmm.. "doesnt init hardware"?09:51
linuxfriendok i understood from you there are android blobs like fastboot and doku is under NDA.09:52
r0kk3rzlooks like fastboot is open09:53
r0kk3rzhttps://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/core/+/oreo-mr1-dev/fastboot/09:53
linuxfriendah09:54
r0kk3rzhmm or thats just the tool to talk to it09:54
r0kk3rzbootloader could be entirely proprietary09:55
abransonhmm, I think the bootloader was the thing that needed to be updated through the Emma tool for xperia, so I guess that's the case there09:56
linuxfriendyes the bootloader will start fastboot. bootload must be an assembly file.10:02
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linuxfriendTHANK YOU :-)10:10
linuxfriendbye10:10
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