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sledges | PSA: Sailfish OS Community collaboration @ #mer-meeting in 10mins | 07:49 |
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linuxfriend | hi all | 09:37 |
flypig | linuxfriend, greetings :) | 09:41 |
linuxfriend | i haven't got a smartphone yet because i waited and observed the market if there is a device with open adress maps so i can make my own bootloader, initialize the hardware and so on. If i choose sony xperia x with sailfish os - will this be possible? | 09:42 |
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r0kk3rz | not as such, your choices are fastboot and fastboot | 09:43 |
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r0kk3rz | that said, fastboot doesnt really do that much and the rest is left up to the operating system to handle initialising most hardware bits | 09:44 |
linuxfriend | ok, then i can start from the reset vector? | 09:44 |
linuxfriend | one moment, i got a call... | 09:44 |
linuxfriend | fastboot is a open source bootloader which i can edit? | 09:45 |
r0kk3rz | i have no idea actually, maybe | 09:46 |
r0kk3rz | its a standard androidy thing | 09:46 |
linuxfriend | thank you anyway! :-) | 09:46 |
abranson | linuxfriend: you can replace the bootloader on the xperia when you unlock it | 09:46 |
abranson | but whether or not that means you can remove fastboot, I don't know. | 09:47 |
linuxfriend | that should be possible, unlocking it | 09:47 |
abranson | it might only unlock whatever fastboot calls | 09:47 |
linuxfriend | the question is if i find all adresses, adress maps, dokumentation i need | 09:47 |
abranson | maybe ask in the sailfishos-porters channel? | 09:47 |
abranson | they know more about the internals of these things | 09:48 |
r0kk3rz | linuxfriend: as a reference, this is the initramfs we use in sailfish https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot | 09:48 |
linuxfriend | ok! the channel name is #sailfishos-porters? | 09:48 |
r0kk3rz | linuxfriend: documentation is hard to come by, companies keep a lot of the inner workings under NDA | 09:49 |
linuxfriend | that's exactliy the reason why i didn't buy yet a smartphone | 09:49 |
r0kk3rz | linuxfriend: theres no BIOS on these things, so bootloader doesnt really init hardware like a normal pc would | 09:49 |
linuxfriend | of course not, i want to make mini-bootloaders to make some experiments | 09:51 |
linuxfriend | hmmm.. "doesnt init hardware"? | 09:51 |
linuxfriend | ok i understood from you there are android blobs like fastboot and doku is under NDA. | 09:52 |
r0kk3rz | looks like fastboot is open | 09:53 |
r0kk3rz | https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/core/+/oreo-mr1-dev/fastboot/ | 09:53 |
linuxfriend | ah | 09:54 |
r0kk3rz | hmm or thats just the tool to talk to it | 09:54 |
r0kk3rz | bootloader could be entirely proprietary | 09:55 |
abranson | hmm, I think the bootloader was the thing that needed to be updated through the Emma tool for xperia, so I guess that's the case there | 09:56 |
linuxfriend | yes the bootloader will start fastboot. bootload must be an assembly file. | 10:02 |
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linuxfriend | THANK YOU :-) | 10:10 |
linuxfriend | bye | 10:10 |
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