#jollamobile log for Wednesday, 2018-10-31

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schmittlauch[m]Could it be possible that search is broken on together.jolla.com? When entering a search term and not using one of the suggestions, but clicking the search button instead, the results are not filtered.12:49
kidWFM (Firefox 60.3.0esr og RHEL7.5)12:56
schmittlauch[m]Works again now.13:28
schmittlauch[m]I just factory reset my sbj phone and now can't get any updates. Could it be that https://releases.jollamobile.com/releases/1.0.2.5/ is too restrictive with SSL/ TLS connections right now?13:31
schmittlauch[m]A pkcon refresh gives me:13:32
schmittlauch[m]Fatal error: Download (curl) error for 'https://releases.jollamobile.com/releases/1.0.2.5/jolla-hw/adaptation-android-common/armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml':13:32
schmittlauch[m]Error code: Unrecognized error13:32
schmittlauch[m]Error message: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure13:32
schmittlauch[m]I set up my Jolla account in the settings app.13:33
schmittlauch[m]a plain and simple `curl https://releases.jollamobile.com/` gives me the same SSLv3 error as well.13:33
schmittlauch[m]So whom can I ping for infra issues again?13:34
schmittlauch[m]sledges (IRC): ^13:35
r0kk3rzpketo: ^13:40
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Nicd-SSLv3 still supported?!13:46
lainwir3dHi everyone13:47
lainwir3dlong time no see13:47
Nicd-hullo13:48
schmittlauch[m]ohai13:53
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: Well, SFOS 1.0.0.5 doesn't seem to support anything better. We're talking about 2013 software13:54
Nicd-TLS has been around since 1999, 1.2 since 200813:55
schmittlauch[m]yeah, according to wikipedia openssl.1.0.1c should at least have some basic TLSv1.2 support13:56
schmittlauch[m]but an `ssu r` also just gets me:13:57
schmittlauch[m]Last operation failed:13:57
schmittlauch[m]Proxy connection refused13:57
schmittlauch[m]which also looks like a server issue13:57
Nicd-did you do anything else on the phone except 1) set up jolla account, and 2) try to update?13:58
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: nope13:59
Nicd-seems you set up developer mode?13:59
schmittlauch[m]ok, yes I did that13:59
Nicd-don't do that13:59
schmittlauch[m]which means it was able to pull down the developer mode packages13:59
Nicd-(unless you did it after 1+2 had already failed)13:59
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: I only did that after it didn't find any updates, even after a reboot14:00
Nicd-ah14:00
Nicd-1.0.0.5 has a tendency to not be able to update if you do anything else than 1 + 2 (like install apps)14:00
schmittlauch[m]so anything I can do?14:04
schmittlauch[m]so anything I can do?14:05
Nicd-did you install other apps?14:06
Nicd-or set up apps or touched settings etc14:06
schmittlauch[m]Ah, got that notification. I guess the old updater is tied to Jolla store14:16
schmittlauch[m]But when trying to install it I get the "Problem with storee" error message14:17
* schmittlauch[m] goes look that up in together14:17
schmittlauch[m]I guess now the result comes from not being registered.14:22
schmittlauch[m]ssu: Device not registered -- skipping credential update14:22
schmittlauch[m]and a `version --dup` fails due to the already known SSLv3 error14:25
schmittlauch[m]Fatal error: Download (curl) error for 'https://releases.jollamobile.com/releases/1.0.2.5/jolla-hw/adaptation-android-common/armv7hl/noarch/droid-system-packager-0.1.3-10.7.1.jolla.noarch.rpm':14:25
schmittlauch[m]Error code: Unrecognized error14:25
schmittlauch[m]Error message: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure14:25
schmittlauch[m]So apparently the SSLv3 issue is still relevant14:25
Nicd-what notification?14:30
pketoschmittlauch[m]: it should not be talking to releases.jollamobile.com14:32
Nicd-the way to get from 1.0.0.5 forwards used to be: go through tutorial, setting up jolla account. then go straight to upgrade, don't do _anything_ else14:32
pketoschmittlauch[m]: did you touch "developer updates" in settings?14:32
schmittlauch[m]"Problem mit Store" (problem with store14:33
schmittlauch[m]pketo: No, I learnt that it breaks things14:33
Nicd-can you try my suggestion?14:33
pketojust factory reset again and don't do anything else than add you jolla account14:33
schmittlauch[m]so a factory reset again?14:33
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: I wanted to do that, but no update notification came. I guess I can fix that by playing with the store14:34
Nicd-just check for upgrades manually14:34
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: that option was greyed out. But I think I can manage14:35
schmittlauch[m]It was nice to see the lovely 1.x UI again though.14:35
schmittlauch[m]Nicd-: that worked, thanks14:45
Nicd-nice14:45
Nicd-just continue doing it14:46
Nicd-until you are in the latest version14:46
Nicd-godspeed14:46
schmittlauch[m]yep just approx. 8-9 updates to go /0\14:56
schmittlauch[m]Congrats to all Sailors for Sailfish OS 3 👏15:45
dlavsolinhurra'!15:50
Jopeany livestream from the event :-)15:51
pketoJope: just early access release, event is next week :)16:27
teveupdate did not work for me: http://www.puuppa.org/~teve/sfos3_update.log PK-Backend crashed..16:48
louisdkOther people having problems upgrading their Xperia X to 3.0.0.5. The UI tells me that here's a problem with Market and the cli says: https://pastebin.com/80V7J4HQ16:59
dlavsolinmy jollac seems freezed on 0% of update17:07
FaerieFlyHmm, can I get EA SFOS3 onto an XA2...17:10
FaerieFlyI guess maybe not17:11
FaerieFlyAh ok, nov 8 for XA217:14
FaerieFlyi.e. after the release event proper17:14
louisdkdlavsolin: I had to upgrade via CLI.17:25
pketosorry, there was a slight hickup on the repository server, should be sorted out now17:27
dlavsolinlouisdk, have you the same issue with gui upgrade?17:29
Jopepketo, ah, I misremembered. :-)17:33
teveversion --dup seems to work. now storeman doesnt start..17:40
r0kk3rzstoreman might need updates17:40
r0kk3rznew libzypp17:41
r0kk3rzmmmm new top menu seems cluttered18:47
LiekeFirst thing I did was removing half the things there18:49
tadzikyeah, it's the default fat one, like in sfos218:50
tadzikbut now as a top menu it does not have to compete with weather and notifications18:50
LiekeDefinitely more useful than just the ambiance switcher18:51
LiekeIt's gonna take a while to get used to the new close gesture though18:52
tadzikyeah18:52
tadzikI like how the tip insisted I try it18:52
tadzik"Close from the corner!" "ok, i got it" "no, you didn't do it last time, your «got it!» doesn't count!"18:52
tadziknow what I'd like is if the new close gestured locked the screen when on the homescreen18:53
tadzikso you don't have to swipe-tap to lock18:53
LiekeYes.18:54
r0kk3rzi kinda think it should still take up the whole screen and put the buttons in the centre18:56
tadzikalso, I quite like the Light Ambiances, but I can't shake of the feeling that they were introduced and Somehow, Accidentally, Totally not on Purpose they make things look like on iOS :P18:56
r0kk3rzi removed a bunch of useless stuff, and now i have an ugly gap at the bottom18:57
tadzikI'd like Favourite Apps on that bottom part18:58
tadzikmaybe18:58
r0kk3rzim sure i'll get over it19:01
r0kk3rzits nice to finally be able to remove the ambiances menu though19:02
tadzikthis could be the headline19:02
r0kk3rzhaha19:02
tadzikSailfishOS 3: Top menu. Finally useful.19:02
raa700orly19:11
Nicd-screenshot of new things?19:18
Nicd-haven't used since early 2.0 I think19:18
r0kk3rzits on the blog19:19
Nicd-WPA Enterprise? :D wow19:21
Nicd-so they finally relented on the top down gesture?19:22
Nicd-I loved it for closing app though19:23
tadzikit's still there19:23
tadzikbut you have to do it from the corner to close19:23
tadzikstill downwards, but start at a corner, if you know what I mean19:23
Nicd-that's going to be really error prone19:23
tadzik(I didn't understand a written description either, but a tutorial helped)19:23
Nicd-oh well, no gestures on Android 🤷19:23
Nicd-except fingerprint gestures though, those are really useful19:23
tadzikit seems to work surprisingly well after a few minutes of adjusting tbh19:23
Nicd-I wonder if my apps still work on SFOS 3?19:24
TeguI disabled swiping down to close app because it was a bit unreliable with different orientations and I acidentally closed apps due to it19:24
Nicd-SailTime and Pitot. no idea if they have new comments since Harbour doesn't show them :D19:24
Teguso you'd have to go to the jolla store to view new comments?19:25
Nicd-yep19:26
Nicd-which is difficult, considering I don't have a device19:26
Nicd-but on the other hand I don't have the SDK anymore either, so whatever19:26
r0kk3rzthey look simple enough, i assume they work19:32
* kid has successfully flashed a Jolla1, Xperia X and Jolla tablet19:42
kidthe tablet did not report progress. apart from that it was smooth.19:42
EyEa16th21:14
EyEaAny new devices for selfish coming 201921:17
EyEa#sailfish21:18
r0kk3rzit depends, do you live in russia?21:19
EyEaeuro21:20
r0kk3rzthats not russia, so probably not21:24
EyEaWhat is coming to russia21:26
r0kk3rzthey'll probably do some new inoi devices at some point21:28
EyEaok21:28

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