| Crabster | morning | 06:35 |
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| pherjung | hi! | 06:44 |
| FireReaper | Hi there | 06:53 |
| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:55 |
| Romuald[m] | Good morning | 06:58 |
| abr | hello everyone | 06:59 |
| abr | let's get this party started up in here | 07:00 |
| abr | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 15th September 2022 | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Sep 15 07:00:54 2022 UTC. The chair is abr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:00 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 15th September 2022)" | 07:00 | |
| abr | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:01 |
| abr | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-15th-september-2022/12861 | 07:01 |
| abr | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. So watch it. | 07:01 |
| abr | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:01 |
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| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:01 |
| abr | #info Andrew Branson, sailor@Jolla | 07:01 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, sailor on shore leave | 07:02 |
| pherjung | #info pherjung, community | 07:03 |
| ViGe_ | #info Ville Nummela, sailor@Jolla | 07:06 |
| sebix[m] | #info Sebix, community | 07:06 |
| FireReaper | #info FireReaper, community | 07:06 |
| abr | ok, there aren't any pending questions this week, so I've got no answers | 07:07 |
| Nico | #info Nico, community | 07:07 |
| abr | but there is a... | 07:07 |
| abr | #topic Open PR discussion (5 min -- asked by jolla) | 07:07 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 min -- asked by jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 15th September 2022)" | 07:07 | |
| abr | #info Name/IRC nick: @flohack via @attah (who may not make it) | 07:07 |
| abr | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/ofono/pull/35 | 07:07 |
| abr | I pinged slava about that a couple of days ago. He'd missed it when it was posted, but has addressed it now. | 07:08 |
| abr | anyone got any more they'd like to draw attention to? | 07:08 |
| Nico | No, my PR got merged before I got a chance to talk about it in a meeting... | 07:09 |
| abr | well that's nice to hear | 07:10 |
| flypig | It's great slava was able to look at flohack's PR. Does anyone know the background? | 07:11 |
| flypig | (something UBports related?) | 07:11 |
| abr | I think they've been doing some work on cell broadcasts in ubports, so I guess it's related to that | 07:11 |
| abr | that's something we should revisit in sfos. there was some progress made some time ago, but never got to a release state. | 07:12 |
| abr | they're quite difficult to test. to my knowledge the netherlands send a test one out once per month, which is a large testing interval | 07:13 |
| flypig | That makes sense; thanks abr :) | 07:13 |
| abr | it's for things like emergency alerts. like when the hawaiians got that missile warning message by accident | 07:14 |
| Nico | Maybe different countries do it on different days, so that you can just take a train to test it once a week! | 07:14 |
| abr | maybe! anyway, onwards | 07:15 |
| abr | #topic Update: Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) | 07:15 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Update: Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 15th September 2022)" | 07:15 | |
| abr | #info <jolla> Lots more bugs dealt with this time, thanks to the Community Bug Coordination Team! | 07:15 |
| abr | #info <Jolla> - 9 new bugs added to our internal database and tagged as "tracked" | 07:15 |
| abr | #info <Jolla> - 7 bugs marked as "fixed" | 07:15 |
| abr | #info <Jolla> - 6 bugs marked as "pending" | 07:15 |
| abr | #info <Jolla> - 4 bugs addressed in some other way | 07:15 |
| abr | Thanks for this. Flypig dealt with most of those, even though he's supposed to be on holiday! | 07:16 |
| pherjung | There were some bugs from last meeting which are still open | 07:16 |
| pherjung | *there are | 07:16 |
| flypig | Late last night one of the "pending"s changed to "fixed", which is also nice. | 07:16 |
| pherjung | Should I add them for the next meeting? | 07:17 |
| abr | yes, i thought all the untracked ones were tracked now | 07:17 |
| flypig | pherjung, that would be really helpful if you wouldn't mind. I'm afraid I didn't get a chance to look back at them. | 07:17 |
| flypig | Sorry, crossed streams. | 07:17 |
| pherjung | no problem, I keep the tracked on my side and remove them only once they're really tracked | 07:18 |
| flypig | I found the more liberal use of "pending" really helpful in your list pherjung, so thank you for that. | 07:19 |
| abr | ok, moving on | 07:20 |
| abr | #topic General discussion (20 min) | 07:20 |
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| abr | how is everyone? | 07:21 |
| sebix[m] | If there's interest we can talk about the recent efforts to create an association and get (public) funding. | 07:21 |
| ExTechOp | abr Thanks, doing well. | 07:21 |
| Nico | Sailfish ate all my RAM yesterday and killed any app I started, but apart from that I am doing fine :p | 07:21 |
| Nico | sebix: Is that related to the EU grant stuff on the forum? | 07:22 |
| jojo_ | hi sebix, I joined the chat btw | 07:22 |
| flypig | sebix[m], I'd love to hear more about the cooperative personally. | 07:22 |
| ExTechOp | What is the latest status of Jolla ownership, have things changed? | 07:22 |
| abr | Not yet, there's bound to be some public announcement though when things are finalized | 07:23 |
| jojo_ | regarding the association, I'm waiting until Friday for everyone to give it's opinion on the statutes before translating them and sending the, | 07:24 |
| jojo_ | them* | 07:24 |
| sebix[m] | Sending them to who? | 07:24 |
| abr | is there a link I can include in the minutes? | 07:24 |
| sebix[m] | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/interest-to-create-a-cooperative/10799/58 | 07:24 |
| sebix[m] | https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/7-w7l7nX1q2UKq846FevDBzX/ | 07:25 |
| jojo_ | the association authority, they will make the association official | 07:25 |
| abr | #info Community co-operative proposal | 07:26 |
| abr | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/interest-to-create-a-cooperative/10799 | 07:26 |
| abr | #info with draft statutes already: | 07:27 |
| abr | #link https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/7-w7l7nX1q2UKq846FevDBzX/ | 07:27 |
| sebix[m] | jojo_: Do you already have the founders? | 07:27 |
| flypig | How do you envisage it working jojo_? Is the focus on grants, developing features, collecting donations? | 07:27 |
| sebix[m] | sebix[m]: And the foundation meeting? | 07:27 |
| jojo_ | sebix[m]: no, I need at least one more person | 07:27 |
| Nico | jojo_, you are in Germany? | 07:28 |
| jojo_ | flypig: I envisage it working in the beginning with members and founders monthly membership fees + EU grants, then by meeting the full members suggest a project(or more) to be funded. | 07:30 |
| sebix[m] | jojo_: And you intend to be the president and provide the postal mailing address for the association? | 07:30 |
| jojo_ | later with donations and other means of gettings funds: | 07:30 |
| jojo_ | .* | 07:30 |
| jojo_ | Nico: I'm in Austria. | 07:30 |
| jojo_ | sebix[m]: yes | 07:30 |
| Nico | Ah, so a bit away from me. But if you need a person, I am from Munich at least, so not thaaaaat far | 07:31 |
| jojo_ | sebix[m] the foundation meeting would require more founding members haha | 07:31 |
| sebix[m] | jojo_: The foundation meeting only requires two people. president and vice-president | 07:31 |
| flypig | Did you pin down a name yet? Or is the poll out? | 07:34 |
| jojo_ | Plans for the association in the next weeks are: This week, continue answering questions and updating text of the statutes. This week-end English -> German translation and posting that translation in the forum so german speakers can read it too. Middle of next week, if translation is fine, print docs and send them to founding members so they can sign them (that's why, people living in Vienna would be more helpfull since I can go to the | 07:34 |
| jojo_ | once documents signed I can send them to the Association Authority (the main police station in Vienna) | 07:35 |
| abr | that first line truncated after 'can go to the' | 07:35 |
| jojo_ | Unless the association sends a letter saying "you are approved" or "change this" , the association is legal after 4 weeks if no letter was received | 07:35 |
| jojo_ | abr: in the forum so german speakers can read it too. Middle of next week, if translation is fine, print docs and send them to founding members so they can sign them (that's why, people living in Vienna would be more helpfull since I can go to them and they can sign IRL), | 07:36 |
| abr | thanks | 07:36 |
| jojo_ | sebix[m]: yes, that's what I mean by "more people" | 07:36 |
| sebix[m] | jojo_: "Unless the association sends a letter saying "you are approved" or "change this" , the association is legal after 4 weeks if no letter was received"... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wpeyWWTjQDjutJorZtrGcXdy>) | 07:36 |
| sebix[m] | * "Unless the **authorities, * authorities** sends | 07:37 |
| abr | #info <jojo> Plans for the association in the next weeks are: This week, continue answering questions and updating text of the statutes. This week-end English -> German translation and posting that translation in the forum so german speakers can read it too. | 07:37 |
| abr | #info <jojo> Middle of next week, if translation is fine, print docs and send them to founding members so they can sign them (that's why, people living in Vienna would be more helpfull since I can go to them and they can sign IRL), | 07:37 |
| abr | #info <jojo> Once documents signed I can send them to the Association Authority (the main police station in Vienna) | 07:37 |
| jojo_ | flypig: by the looks of the poll it will be "sailmates", unless by the end of the week the polls change | 07:38 |
| jojo_ | btw for those present at the Austrian meetup, I'll be there ! | 07:39 |
| flypig | It's all very cool jojo_. | 07:39 |
| jojo_ | i think i replied to all questions so far | 07:40 |
| abr | any more topics to bring up before we move on to setting the next meeting date? | 07:40 |
| abr | ok | 07:41 |
| abr | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) | 07:41 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 15th September 2022)" | 07:41 | |
| abr | Proposing Thursday 29th September at 07:00am UTC | 07:42 |
| flypig | I don't see any clashes with that date. | 07:42 |
| ExTechOp | works.for.me | 07:42 |
| abr | ok then | 07:43 |
| abr | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 29th September 2022 at 07:00am UTC: 2022-09-29T0700Z | 07:43 |
| abr | That's it. I hope everyone had a good time and nobody got hurt. | 07:43 |
| abr | #endmeeting | 07:43 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Sep 15 07:43:34 2022 UTC. | 07:43 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-09-15-07.00.html | 07:43 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-09-15-07.00.txt | 07:43 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-09-15-07.00.log.html | 07:43 |
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| Nico | o/ | 07:43 |
| ExTechOp | Thank you everybody! | 07:43 |
| Crabster | thx to #? | 07:44 |
| flypig | Thanks all! Thanks abr especially (you make it look so effortlessly organised). | 07:44 |
| pherjung | thanks all! | 07:44 |
| abr | well only due to your extensive meeting toolkit! | 07:45 |
| flypig | sledges is the one to credit for that. But it's the delivery too ;) | 07:45 |
| jojo_ | bye all and thx | 07:45 |
| sebix[m] | thanks for joining jojo_ ! | 07:48 |
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