| rainemak | I'm having troubles to idenfiy | 07:01 |
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| rainemak | I doubt that bot likes me now | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-22nd-aug-2024/19621 | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 8th August 2024 | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Aug 22 07:02:16 2024 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Aug 22 07:02:33 2024 UTC. | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.html | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.txt | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.log.html | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 22nd August 2024 | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Aug 22 07:02:46 2024 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 07:02 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-22nd-aug-2024/19621 I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:02 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-22nd-aug-2024/19621 | 07:03 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 07:03 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:03 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:03 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community | 07:03 |
| sebix[m] | #info Sebix, community | 07:04 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla | 07:04 |
| rainemak | No topics today but let's use more time to general discussion | 07:04 |
| rainemak | And of course Open PRs | 07:05 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 07:05 |
| rainemak | Maybe pvuorela, dcaliste, flypig, rubdos (or somebody else) have some? | 07:06 |
| direc85[m] | #info Matti Viljanen, community | 07:08 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (20 mins) | 07:10 |
| rainemak | We communicated a mandatory architectural change in the telephony stack a month | 07:12 |
| rainemak | ago. I am pleased to update on the progress. We have successfully done 2G and 3G | 07:12 |
| rainemak | calls also SMS works. There are tons of different telephony related APIs already | 07:12 |
| rainemak | working which is very very good progress. We're working on VoLTE as well but | 07:12 |
| direc85[m] | Any progress with the Rust PR? Still issues with gecko? | 07:12 |
| rainemak | requires still implementation time. As you may understand getting VoLTE working | 07:12 |
| rainemak | properly in multiple countries is trick. Thus, we'd like to understand whether | 07:12 |
| rainemak | there would be willingness to help test C2 VoLTE in different countries? | 07:12 |
| flypig | Great to hear about the good progress. What would testing involve? I'd be more than willing to help if I can. | 07:16 |
| direc85[m] | I think [@rubdos:rubdos.be](https://matrix.to/#/@rubdos:rubdos.be) might be interested? | 07:16 |
| rainemak | I'm thinking that few pre ordered ones could get their devices a earlier. | 07:16 |
| flypig | I'm sure you'll get a lot of uptake for help with that. Definitely I'd be in for testing in the UK if that's needed. | 07:17 |
| rainemak | Something one Sailfish OS user per country where we're selling. I'm not saying that we should cover all EU counties but biggest ones. | 07:17 |
| rainemak | s/EU counties/EU countries/ | 07:18 |
| direc85[m] | Perhaps a ping on the forum is needed, it's quiet in here... | 07:18 |
| direc85[m] | ^for participants | 07:19 |
| rainemak | direc85[m]: that's the thinking but first trying to understand it over here | 07:19 |
| rainemak | flypig: btw I reverted "Create GLLibraryEGL as a singleton in GLContextProviderEGL" from my gecko build but I don't have a good build yet | 07:20 |
| rainemak | direc85[m]: you mean this one https://github.com/sailfishos/rust/pull/23 | 07:21 |
| sebix[m] | rainemak: we can cover Austria and in parts also neighboring countries (not permanently, but for singular tests) | 07:21 |
| direc85[m] | [@_oftc_rainemak:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@_oftc_rainemak:matrix.org) yes | 07:22 |
| rainemak | sebix[m]: great! | 07:23 |
| flypig | rainemak: in case it helps, this morning I pushed two changes to fix Rust compilation using the 4.6 SDK. With krnlyng's fix, it runs on 4.6 as well for me here. | 07:23 |
| rainemak | flypig: did you have that "Create GLLibraryEGL as a singleton in GLContextProviderEGL" included or not | 07:24 |
| rainemak | flypig: I'll let my next build first finalize and then try with your latest changes | 07:24 |
| flypig | No, I had to remove it too. | 07:24 |
| rainemak | like it's in the libhybris | 07:25 |
| rainemak | likely | 07:25 |
| flypig | Could it be something getting released too early in the gecko code though? | 07:25 |
| flypig | That's the sort of mistake I would make! | 07:25 |
| rainemak | doesn't sound likely | 07:26 |
| direc85[m] | Re: newer Rust causes build failures: updating crates to newer patch releases can be more efficient than hunting for patches, maybe | 07:26 |
| rainemak | your rpms worked on top 4.5.0 release as well after adding some symlinks and copying newer libstdc++ there | 07:27 |
| rainemak | flypig: ^ that's why I don't think it's accidental unload on your code | 07:27 |
| flypig | direc85[m]: that sounds like a good idea, but also something I wouldn't know how to do. Maybe you could give me some more detailed offline advice? | 07:28 |
| rainemak | flypig: will check your recent changes later | 07:28 |
| direc85[m] | The only thing I found about the possibly-wayland-related crash was flooding the API with palette related updates, but that was with Qt 6 I think | 07:29 |
| flypig | rainemak: yes, I see what you mean. I'm not sure I can help much if it's in hybris I'm afraid. But I'll check just in case I can see anything obvious on the gecko side today. | 07:29 |
| rubdos[m] | C2 other countries: I can do Belgium indeed, but I haven't received any info on the C2 payment yet | 07:29 |
| direc85[m] | [@flypig:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@flypig:matrix.org) sure thing! I'll try it myself first. | 07:30 |
| flypig | direc85[m]: I saw thtat too in the Qt bug tracker I think. Thanks for checking for it. | 07:30 |
| rubdos[m] | I have a spare SIM that I can use, and I can probably use some sims from colleagues for it | 07:30 |
| rubdos[m] | and friends | 07:30 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m]: we'll do a separate update to the forum on this VoLTE / cellular testing | 07:30 |
| flypig | direc85[m]: thank you, that's be really great! | 07:30 |
| rubdos[m] | ack! | 07:30 |
| flypig | Was there useful feedback from the C2 survey? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-c2-community-phone-your-feedback-is-needed/19522 | 07:32 |
| rainemak | Yes, and we're digesting results | 07:32 |
| rainemak | pretty silent here, should we schedule next meeting | 07:33 |
| flypig | I'd love it if you could give an idea of the "flavour" of the response you got at some point. Filling it out made me have to think about things... | 07:33 |
| direc85[m] | About C2: will it be flashable in case something goes wrong? Jolla Phone wasn't... | 07:33 |
| direc85[m] | (had to dd some partitions) | 07:34 |
| rainemak | direc85[m]: not concluded yet as there are options | 07:34 |
| flypig | Another quick question from me. I'm getting a handle on the latest C2, Xperia 10 IV/V and Mind2 updates. Are these the best links? | 07:34 |
| flypig | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-mind2-development-update/19734 | 07:34 |
| flypig | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-c2-community-phone-deliveries/19468 | 07:35 |
| flypig | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xperia-1-iv-5-iv-and-10-iv-support/11394/259 | 07:35 |
| direc85[m] | [@_oftc_rainemak:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@_oftc_rainemak:matrix.org) sounds good :) | 07:35 |
| rainemak | yeap | 07:35 |
| rainemak | #info Handles on the latest C2, Xperia 10 IV/V and Mind2 updates | 07:35 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-mind2-development-update/19734 | 07:35 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-c2-community-phone-deliveries/19468 | 07:36 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xperia-1-iv-5-iv-and-10-iv-support/11394/259 | 07:36 |
| rainemak | let's schedule next meeting | 07:36 |
| flypig | Great, thank you rainemak. I try to keep track, but it's easy to get lost. | 07:36 |
| rainemak | maybe we should pin them | 07:36 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins) | 07:37 |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 5th September at 07:00am UTC | 07:37 |
| ExTechOp | Works4me | 07:38 |
| direc85[m] | Ok with me | 07:39 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 5th September 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-09-05T0700Z | 07:39 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 07:39 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Aug 22 07:39:24 2024 UTC. | 07:39 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.html | 07:39 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.txt | 07:39 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-08-22-07.02.log.html | 07:39 |
| direc85[m] | Thanks for the news :) | 07:40 |
| flypig | +1 | 07:40 |
| flypig | Enjoy your days everyone! | 07:40 |
| ExTechOp | rainemak That Xperia IV/V update is a month old, anything new since? | 07:41 |
| piggz[m] | you guys get up too early for me :D | 07:41 |
| piggz[m] | im always missing hte meeting | 07:42 |
| piggz[m] | i blame flypig for not posting about gecko until after midnight | 07:42 |
| rainemak | Thank you everybody! | 07:46 |
| ExTechOp | Thanks everyone! | 07:47 |
| flypig | Haha! Sorry piggz[m]! But last time I posted it early you didn't like it if I recall correctly ;) | 07:47 |
| flypig | Great to hear about your VoLTE success. | 07:47 |
| piggz[m] | yeah, its quite nice having volte just before they make it mandatory! | 07:48 |
| flypig | Perfect timing :) | 07:48 |
| piggz[m] | hopefully it will work nicely for other mediatek devices out there, seems more straightforward than the qcom based driver | 07:49 |
| flypig | piggz[m], is there an explanation anywhere of what you & notkit did? | 07:50 |
| piggz[m] | flypig: just packaged up this https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/hybris-support/ofono-binder-plugin-ext-mtk | 07:50 |
| piggz[m] | hard work is by notkit and some others in ubports community | 07:51 |
| piggz[m] | so, i have volte on x23 and pinephones now, so im sure to be able to make calls on sailfish going forward | 07:52 |
| piggz[m] | at some point i will see about hooking the pp code into the ui so AT commands arnt needed | 07:52 |
| flypig | It looks like amazing work (and I include your packaging work in that!) and great to see it working across devices. | 07:54 |
| piggz[m] | ...and distros | 07:55 |
| flypig | Yes, absolutely! | 07:55 |
| direc85[m] | <piggz[m]> "so, i have volte on x23 and..." <- That's awesome! | 08:16 |
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