| Venty[m] | Hi all. | 00:53 |
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| *** nephros_ is now known as nephros[c2] | 06:41 | |
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| *** nephros_ is now known as nephros | 06:49 | |
| *** nephros is now known as nephros[c2] | 06:50 | |
| pvuorela | unlike the topic says, meeting will be at 0800Z, i.e. in an hour. | 07:03 |
| *** nephros is now known as nephros[c2] | 07:04 | |
| *** nephros[c2] is now known as nephros | 07:11 | |
| *** nephros is now known as nephros[c2] | 07:15 | |
| Crabster | morning | 07:52 |
| ExTechOp | Good Morning, Everyone! | 07:55 |
| direc85 | Good morning! | 07:56 |
| flypig | Good morning. | 08:00 |
| pvuorela | good morning | 08:00 |
| JoshuaStrobl[m] | Morning | 08:00 |
| ViGe | Good Morning! | 08:00 |
| pvuorela | let's start now | 08:01 |
| Miika[m] | Good morning | 08:01 |
| pvuorela | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024 | 08:01 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu Oct 31 08:01:37 2024 UTC. The chair is pvuorela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| sailbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 08:01 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024)" | 08:01 | |
| pvuorela | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 08:01 |
| pvuorela | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-31st-october-2024/20374 | 08:02 |
| pvuorela | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 08:02 |
| pvuorela | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 08:02 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024)" | 08:02 | |
| pvuorela | #info Pekka Vuorela, Jolla | 08:02 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 08:02 |
| JoshuaStrobl[m] | #info Joshua Strobl, community | 08:02 |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela, community | 08:02 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community | 08:03 |
| Crabster | #info Crabster - lurker | 08:03 |
| direc85 | #info Matti Viljanen, Jolla | 08:03 |
| pvuorela | a bit quiet here today. lots of discussion on the forum, though. | 08:08 |
| nephros[c2] | #info nephros, Community Lurker | 08:08 |
| pvuorela | the 5 minutes passed, let's move forward. | 08:08 |
| pvuorela | #info No topics suggested in given deadline. Some late arrivals which will go to the next meeting as noted on the meeting announcement. | 08:09 |
| nephros[c2] | morning from my C2 which did *not* have problems, at all :) | 08:09 |
| pvuorela | the new item noted, though. will need some thinking if there's some testing we could use. | 08:10 |
| pvuorela | but we'll have the generic items | 08:10 |
| pvuorela | #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 08:10 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024)" | 08:10 | |
| pvuorela | anything to discuss about? | 08:11 |
| rinigus | any progress with sb2 bugs that we experienced at OBS when building qt6? | 08:12 |
| rinigus | (morning) | 08:12 |
| RXShorty | Sorry I am late. But if you need any help with the C2 issues I am more the willing to help. But probably this is already discussed. | 08:12 |
| pvuorela | RXShorty: your offer noted and appreciated. the discussion item came late for this meeting so i didn't have anything prepared. | 08:13 |
| Guest8028 | https://github.com/sailfishos/poppler/pull/5 please make a decision option a (thaodan) or option b (pvuorela) about the %files/%_includedir. | 08:13 |
| *** Guest8028 is now known as nephros | 08:14 | |
| ExPLIT[m] | morning, also late. | 08:14 |
| nephros | ^^ sorry, that was me | 08:14 |
| pvuorela | nephros: i thought we had a conclusion there to just enable the unstable api and package it in the main -devel | 08:15 |
| pvuorela | the simple way | 08:15 |
| pvuorela | rinigus: sorry, i have no idea about those. who's been involved? | 08:15 |
| nephros | pvuorela: yeah and there's the small issue left whether multiple packages should own the indlude dir. OR do we drop all the separate -devel packages in to one? | 08:15 |
| rinigus | pvuorela: I think mal was looking into it. it was discussed in the previous meeting as well | 08:17 |
| pvuorela | nephros: guess you mean the duplicate entry i commented about? no answer on the PR but i don't think we need two owners if one depends on the other. | 08:17 |
| pvuorela | we're btw over 5 minutes already | 08:18 |
| pvuorela | can extend a few minutes | 08:19 |
| pvuorela | rinigus: hm, this 000 permission thing, i guess | 08:20 |
| nephros | pvuorela: okay, I'll do just one owner, then squash and forcepush and we should be done. | 08:20 |
| pvuorela | nephros: thanks | 08:20 |
| rinigus | pvuorela: yes, it is. | 08:20 |
| rinigus | kind of major stumbling block for qt6 | 08:20 |
| pvuorela | rinigus: alright. i'd guess it hasn't moved forward since, unfortunately | 08:21 |
| rinigus | without this fixed we have to use ad-hock automatic build system which is not as complete as obs | 08:21 |
| nephros | rinigus: I wonder if some failures on aarch64 are falsely attributed to the OBS bug. | 08:21 |
| nephros | example: https://build.sailfishos.org/public/build/home:nephros:devel:qt6:flipperzero/chum_4.6_aarch64/aarch64/qflipper/_log | 08:22 |
| nephros | /usr/lib64/qt6/mkspecs/features/toolchain.prf:76: Variable QMAKE_CXX.COMPILER_MACROS is not defined | 08:22 |
| pvuorela | let's move on to the generic discussion, can still continue these if necessary. | 08:23 |
| pvuorela | #topic General discussion (10 mins) | 08:23 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (10 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024)" | 08:23 | |
| rinigus | its failures of build system in general (sb2). we don't have builds failing on aarch64 when compiling natively | 08:23 |
| rinigus | nephros: ^ | 08:23 |
| rinigus | or using qemu directly for the full build | 08:24 |
| rinigus | on my pc | 08:24 |
| rinigus | pvuorela: hopefully someone can look into it. although, its probably pain to debug | 08:24 |
| nephros | Any comments on the elephant in the room? | 08:24 |
| pvuorela | ? | 08:25 |
| pvuorela | rinigus: indeed. any problems there will bite us too sooner or later. | 08:26 |
| rinigus | unless we move to aarch64 native builds. then we can just drop sb2 | 08:27 |
| rinigus | although, I know its maybe unrealistic at this stage in general | 08:28 |
| rinigus | but possible for OBS | 08:28 |
| piggz[m] | nephros: that CXX compiler not devined should be fixed by my build of qtbase in hom:piggz:qtapps, pls try that, but all the other permission errors with qmlcachegen still remain | 08:33 |
| pvuorela | 10 minutes passed | 08:34 |
| pvuorela | #topic Next meeting time and date (1 min) | 08:34 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (1 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024)" | 08:34 | |
| nephros | piggz[m]: cool, thx | 08:34 |
| pvuorela | Proposing Thursday 14th November October at 08:00am UTC. This time moved forward 1 hour because of DST change. | 08:34 |
| pvuorela | no objections, that it is | 08:36 |
| flypig | Looks good :) | 08:36 |
| pvuorela | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 14th November 2024 at 08:00am UTC: 2024-11-14T0800Z | 08:36 |
| pvuorela | #endmeeting | 08:36 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu Oct 31 08:36:25 2024 UTC. | 08:36 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-10-31-08.01.html | 08:36 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-10-31-08.01.txt | 08:36 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2024/sailfishos-meeting.2024-10-31-08.01.log.html | 08:36 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday 31st October 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-10-31T0700Z" | 08:36 | |
| pvuorela | thanks! | 08:36 |
| flypig | Thanks pvuorela; all! | 08:37 |
| Crabster | thx to #? | 08:37 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | Thank you, I just finished reading the backlog :--) | 08:38 |
| ExTechOp | Thank you everybody! | 08:39 |
| ExTechOp | Should we advertise these meetings more on the forums, to lure in more participants? | 08:40 |
| direc85 | Thanks all! | 08:40 |
| pvuorela | ExTechOp: yea, maybe. | 08:43 |
| Pauly | Hello! | 08:49 |
| Pauly | Oh, meeting is over? I am to Latein? | 08:51 |
| Pauly | Latein = to late | 08:52 |
| pvuorela | yea, meeting done. | 08:52 |
| Pauly | Does someone hast toll the Problem with c2 and the security Charts? | 08:53 |
| Pauly | Charts = chars | 08:53 |
| Pauly | sorry, i write on my Tabletten and die Not see what i write or the automatic correction feel to San. :-| | 08:55 |
| pvuorela | we are working on these. | 08:55 |
| Pauly | great! | 08:56 |
| Pauly | where you will be post it? | 08:56 |
| sebix[m] | the biggest question is maybe if there is/will be a possibility to reflash. otherwise, the logistical effort could be pretty high | 08:58 |
| pvuorela | at least the forum is the natural place to communicate. | 08:59 |
| sebix[m] | I certainly don't want to be in your shoes right now, must be extremely stressful. Thanks for keeping the heads up, really appreciated! | 09:00 |
| pvuorela | cheers :) | 09:00 |
| Pauly | Oh, there will be no sidekick, that is a bad thing. | 09:01 |
| Pauly | sailfish forum, finde, TY! | 09:01 |
| Pauly | All the best, CU! | 09:01 |
| *** nephros_ is now known as nephros[c2] | 10:11 | |
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