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| dr_gogeta86_joll | dory kernel is a piece of ... | 15:24 |
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| jcbjoe | dr_gogeta86_joll: you alive ? | 15:34 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | obvs | 15:35 |
| jcbjoe | just woke up | 15:35 |
| jcbjoe | you can use diff kernels ? | 15:35 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | on dory yep | 15:36 |
| jcbjoe | whats dory ? | 15:36 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | but i need to compile a booting mer compliant kernel | 15:36 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | lge g watch | 15:36 |
| jcbjoe | oh | 15:36 |
| alin_ | dr_gogeta86_joll: but that is android 5.0 | 15:37 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | no no mine is still 4.4 | 15:37 |
| alin_ | dr_gogeta86_joll: is not the google one? | 15:37 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | no | 15:37 |
| locusf | it still doesn't boot? | 15:39 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | kernel hell | 15:39 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | some mer needed conf not compile well | 15:40 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | and get errord | 15:40 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | is holyday, i non don't have rush | 15:40 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | in the meanwhile i've studied how glacier and lipstick works ..... i'm a 4ever n00b | 15:41 |
| locusf | lol I wonder | 15:42 |
| locusf | lipstick isn't really simple to understand | 15:42 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | i've read the lipstick example by w00t | 15:43 |
| locusf | I don't know but tthe bare essentials, but eg. wayland handling is pure voodoo | 15:43 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | i hope in a near future will be better | 15:43 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | now problem is | 15:44 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | think about hybris works, egl too | 15:45 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | it doesn't have nor modem nor speaker just a mic | 15:45 |
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| dr_gogeta86_joll | and bluetooth | 15:45 |
| dr_gogeta86_joll | this is a topic for nemo from now in onwards | 15:46 |
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| jcbjoe | anyone around ? | 17:17 |
| jcbjoe | are there any pre 1.1.0.39 builds for the nexus 4 ? | 17:18 |
| jcbjoe | i want to try those builds out .. i was watching a youtube video and i saw a build that looked like it had all the features built in | 17:19 |
| jcbjoe | let me check xda | 17:20 |
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| jcbjoe | anyone good with the hadk ? | 17:47 |
| alin_ | jcbjoe: i have a script that builds all but I did only n5 | 17:53 |
| alin_ | I think they already n4 | 17:54 |
| jcbjoe | its cool | 17:54 |
| jcbjoe | alin_: let me back up ok and exaplain | 17:54 |
| jcbjoe | i been using 1.1.0.39 as a daily driver for weeks now right .. i already know there been a new update .. but of course everything isn't on the nexus4 like on the jolla phone | 17:55 |
| jcbjoe | i just ran acorss a videos where a nexus4 had a image on it where it had all the pull down menus and i'm looking for a spexcific imaging that can do that .. so now im looking for older builds that probably have all the drop down menus or everything that 1.1.0.39 dosen't have to just try it out | 17:56 |
| jcbjoe | alin_: do all the sailfish builds run witih cm-10 ? | 17:56 |
| alin_ | jcbjoe: no... n5 is cm 11 | 17:56 |
| alin_ | jcbjoe: https://github.com/dmt4/sfa-mer | 17:57 |
| jcbjoe | oh im on a nexus4 | 17:58 |
| alin_ | jcbjoe: so that script | 17:58 |
| alin_ | once started shall setup all the hadk | 17:58 |
| alin_ | of course in readme there is an example for hammerhead | 17:59 |
| alin_ | you will have to know some things | 17:59 |
| alin_ | like the repos for mako | 17:59 |
| alin_ | the verndor | 17:59 |
| alin_ | thre is no branch 11 as far as i know for mako so that does not apply | 17:59 |
| alin_ | and of course other crap | 17:59 |
| alin_ | read and ask | 17:59 |
| jcbjoe | k | 18:00 |
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| jcbjoe | alin_: i think i found what i wanted | 18:31 |
| jcbjoe | it was a old youtube video sledges did from mwc he was demoing nexuw4 running sailfish os 1.0.4.20-EA1.zip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEsNZdcw_cU | 18:33 |
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| Stskeepz | moo javispedro | 18:35 |
| javispedro | hi! | 18:35 |
| Stskeepz | how's stuff | 18:35 |
| javispedro | procrastinating around =) | 18:35 |
| javispedro | how's stuff | 18:36 |
| Stskeepz | good.. not much time for hacking when you have a child | 18:37 |
| Stskeepz | +in xmas time | 18:37 |
| javispedro | yeah | 18:38 |
| Stskeepz | was it you who studied the tizen bluez? | 18:39 |
| javispedro | I know this guy who has a 4-6 month child, wants to finish his thesis in 4-6 months time, and has also started a new job | 18:39 |
| javispedro | we already started referring to him as "the chuck norris" | 18:40 |
| javispedro | ce la vie (pardon my horrible french) | 18:40 |
| javispedro | yeah, I took a look at it | 18:41 |
| Stskeepz | they're bcm4330 users aren't they, too | 18:41 |
| javispedro | iirc last time this moved at all we requested samsung to try to get us a git history or sth instead of the huge patch | 18:41 |
| Stskeepz | heh | 18:41 |
| javispedro | the word they did was pretty hw agnostic though | 18:42 |
| javispedro | oth, not tizen-agnostic at all.. | 18:42 |
| javispedro | how's the bluetooth thing looking internally btw? I assume any BT smart certification is out of the question with the current SbJ kernel | 18:43 |
| javispedro | *the work they did | 18:44 |
| Stskeepz | sbj possibly, right now we have a bit of time to look at tablet too.. | 18:45 |
| javispedro | I'd actually try to take the bluez5 route this time | 18:46 |
| javispedro | it was looking really bad a few months ago | 18:46 |
| javispedro | but it seems to be starting to catch up | 18:46 |
| Stskeepz | we're on what looks like a 3.10 kernel so | 18:46 |
| javispedro | hm | 18:48 |
| Stskeepz | nothing feels good about the bluetooth story entirely from a hw spread pov.. :P | 18:49 |
| javispedro | yes, no choice is without problem | 18:49 |
| javispedro | in fact no choice is without a lot of problems.. | 18:49 |
| Stskeepz | i know bluez4/5 is the right way but it's really hard when the chipset vendors has practically turned it's backs on it | 18:49 |
| javispedro | I don't think there's anything vendors need to do here | 18:50 |
| javispedro | not much variation between different BT hardware (except for the usual bugs here and there) | 18:50 |
| Stskeepz | well, nobody is doing kernel level drivers really anymore, it's all serially controlled | 18:50 |
| Stskeepz | i guess | 18:50 |
| javispedro | exactly | 18:50 |
| Stskeepz | (i'm speaking out my ass, fwiw) | 18:50 |
| javispedro | I figure out that it is actually a problem that no stack is complete | 18:51 |
| javispedro | well, and possibly that you're stuck with the old kernel, that too | 18:52 |
| Stskeepz | i kinda hope that in intel world it's a little easier since there's not a lot of divergence from their initial hw | 18:53 |
| javispedro | we should make an update about this in the next community meeting, i feel there's enough news | 18:55 |
| javispedro | enumerate the problems and also the current solutions again | 18:55 |
| Stskeepz | i'd like to wait one-two meetings for the fact our bluetooth guy is in the wrong timezone.. | 18:55 |
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| Stskeepz | but let's see | 18:56 |
| javispedro | yeah, I have a deadline on the 10th =) | 18:56 |
| Stskeepz | ooi deadline? | 18:56 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 18:56 |
| javispedro | RL work =) | 18:56 |
| Stskeepz | ah | 18:57 |
| javispedro | there are still the three main options (bluez4, bluez5, and bluedroid (I guess)), | 18:59 |
| javispedro | b4 is now a more decent looking option because the qt5.4 stack will allow devs to atleast connect to many of those fitness bands and stuff | 19:00 |
| javispedro | which is, like, 99% of usecases after all.. | 19:00 |
| javispedro | of course, no certification, no logo, no security | 19:00 |
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| Stskeepz | b4 does? | 19:01 |
| Stskeepz | i though tit was b | 19:01 |
| Stskeepz | 5 | 19:01 |
| javispedro | I made a btsmart stack for b4 | 19:01 |
| javispedro | they pulled it in for qt5.4 | 19:01 |
| javispedro | so yeah, you can from b4 | 19:02 |
| javispedro | http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt5-5.4/qtbluetooth-le-overview.html#technology-preview | 19:03 |
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| javispedro | as they say, it only supports the central role (that means, qt is the "initiator" of the connection) | 19:05 |
| Stskeepz | oh, interesting | 19:05 |
| Stskeepz | cool | 19:05 |
| Stskeepz | gtg now but i'd like to know more | 19:05 |
| javispedro | ok | 19:05 |
| javispedro | will probably try to schedule a meeting during jan | 19:06 |
| javispedro | *Jan | 19:06 |
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| sledges | https://mobile.twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/status/548446071224291328 | 20:33 |
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